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lockman21 02-28-2017 04:06 PM

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Looks like Hawks are getting Oduya and Isles are getting Duchene.

JRS1386 02-28-2017 04:49 PM

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Nothing like playing the Avs to lift the teams spirit

Lcsulla 02-28-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16730863)
Looks like Hawks are getting Oduya and Isles are getting Duchene.

Saw that:

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A source told the Sun-Times that the Hawks are reacquiring veteran defenseman Johnny Oduya — a member of the 2013 and 2015 Stanley Cup-winning teams — on Tuesday night. According to ESPN, the Hawks only gave up prospect Mark McNeill and a conditional fourth-round pick (which could become a third-rounder) in the deal.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/s...-johnny-oduya/

JRS1386 02-28-2017 04:51 PM

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Also Shats is a -1 already looks like the Caps shat the bed on that trade

lockman21 02-28-2017 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16730885)

Pffff. I beat them by 40 minutes. Get your shit together Mark Lazerus.

fonzz41 02-28-2017 04:55 PM

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I would be really surprised if Duchene moved at the deadline. Sakic will play hardball.

lockman21 02-28-2017 05:07 PM

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Holy shit we gave up nothing for Oduya.

fonzz41 02-28-2017 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 16730883)
Nothing like playing the Avs to lift the teams spirit

Happy we could help.

Lcsulla 02-28-2017 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16730894)
Holy shit we gave up nothing for Oduya.

Yeah, if McNeill was all that good he would not be considered a prospect at age 24 - hell his numbers are getting worse each year in the AHL, not to mention a 4th round pick is not all that much compensation considering Dallas is paying half of Oduya's remaining salary.

Edit: also like the deal because it appears Hammer will be out for about a week and Oduya can fill that void and when Nik comes back Johnny will be another veteran blue liner to eat up ice time so the big 3 (Keith, Seabrook and Hjarlmasson) get some extra breathers here and there for a deep run.

Roose13 02-28-2017 05:24 PM

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Thank God the Avs suck more than the Flyers

barbogast 02-28-2017 05:27 PM

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Benstoniu...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

Lcsulla 02-28-2017 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 16730905)
Thank God the Avs suck more than the Flyers

Not exactly a high barometer! Sort of like comparing the 1998 Yankees to Rays that season! :lol

That said, I think in a few years the Av's will have a solid team. Sakic knows his stuff and if their prospects pan out and they keep drafting well I could see them as a comer in a 3-5 years.

Dramageek 02-28-2017 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16730907)

:lol :lol

Gotta have a banner for winning the trade deadline!

aeroshady 02-28-2017 05:56 PM

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Not a huge fan of the coach's challenge rule. I think it needs to be review and amended in the off season to not disallow goals that happen way after an offsides was missed.

That said, good on the Caps for using the rule well and overturning the goal. It sucked the momentum right out of the Rangers and the Caps dominated the second period.

Lcsulla 02-28-2017 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by aeroshady (Post 16730927)
Not a huge fan of the coach's challenge rule. I think it needs to be review and amended in the off season to not disallow goals that happen way after an offsides was missed.

Yeah, I agree with this.

Great game between Montreal and Columbus now in OT - Habs just got screwed out of the game winner though IMO.

Lcsulla 02-28-2017 07:46 PM

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Good to see the Habs score (again) in OT to win.

Amazing - appears a game has broken out in Dallas, Stars were down 2 after 2 periods to the Pens and now it is 3-2 Dallas.

kev87lads 02-28-2017 07:47 PM

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Congrats swordo!

TheLastPig 02-28-2017 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aeroshady (Post 16730927)
Not a huge fan of the coach's challenge rule. I think it needs to be review and amended in the off season to not disallow goals that happen way after an offsides was missed.

That said, good on the Caps for using the rule well and overturning the goal. It sucked the momentum right out of the Rangers and the Caps dominated the second period.

I don't see that happening, and it shouldn't IMO. Offsides is a pillar rule of the game. I don't see why the amount of time the team has it in the offensive zone should matter, that's still one offensive possession.

fonzz41 02-28-2017 09:28 PM

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Some late night fun.

Ott to Montreal for a 6th; Jannik Hansen to the Sharks

Is the Ott acquisition partially in response to Ottawa getting Burrows?

Brohan_Santana 02-28-2017 09:50 PM

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I think tomorrow is going to be cray. Seems to be a lot of cheap/affordable trades happening early. Easy for teams to scoop up players on the cheap


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lockman21 02-28-2017 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16730907)

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol Oh my god, this is gold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B359hCC3HQU

TMoore4075 03-01-2017 03:07 AM

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I think today will be boring. When Vanek is now the top player on The Fourth Periods top list... yeah.

The week leading up to the expansion draft though. That could be interesting.

barbogast 03-01-2017 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by aeroshady (Post 16730927)
Not a huge fan of the coach's challenge rule. I think it needs to be review and amended in the off season to not disallow goals that happen way after an offsides was missed.

That said, good on the Caps for using the rule well and overturning the goal. It sucked the momentum right out of the Rangers and the Caps dominated the second period.

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Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16731137)
I don't see that happening, and it shouldn't IMO. Offsides is a pillar rule of the game. I don't see why the amount of time the team has it in the offensive zone should matter, that's still one offensive possession.

I have mixed feelings on this. I honestly can understand arguments for all sides. Personally, I've always felt like this whole negating goals because players are like a fraction of an inch offsides is kind of silly and is not in the spirit of the rule and also doesn't jive with the idea that the league wants to increase offense. But that's impossible to write a black and white rule like that, which is what an offsides rule must be: black and white. So in that sense, I guess it is what it is. However, I think if the rule is going to be in place, it shouldn't matter if the team that was offsides scores immediately upon entering the zone or spends 45-60 seconds playing offense. Offsides is offsides, if we're going to look at it that way. Just like it would be virtually impossible to litigate how far offsides a player can be before a goal is disallowed, it's impossible to litigate how much time can be spent in the zone before the missed offsides no longer matters.

TMoore4075 03-01-2017 04:45 AM

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Matty, what do you think about getting rid of the review of offsides?

https://youtu.be/R7pN56VZOfM

unccrombie 03-01-2017 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16731243)
I have mixed feelings on this. I honestly can understand arguments for all sides. Personally, I've always felt like this whole negating goals because players are like a fraction of an inch offsides is kind of silly and is not in the spirit of the rule and also doesn't jive with the idea that the league wants to increase offense. But that's impossible to write a black and white rule like that, which is what an offsides rule must be: black and white. So in that sense, I guess it is what it is. However, I think if the rule is going to be in place, it shouldn't matter if the team that was offsides scores immediately upon entering the zone or spends 45-60 seconds playing offense. Offsides is offsides, if we're going to look at it that way. Just like it would be virtually impossible to litigate how far offsides a player can be before a goal is disallowed, it's impossible to litigate how much time can be spent in the zone before the missed offsides no longer matters.

we could always redefine offsides to be a distance in/out the zone (perhaps 0.5-1 skate length, and not 0.5 inches). however, players already get leeway with just having to have a foot on the blue line.

TMoore4075 03-01-2017 05:18 AM

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@renlavoietva: Valtteri Filppula rejected a trade to Toronto this week. Part of a bigger trade with Brian Boyle. #tvasports

Not at all a surprise. He left Detroit because of Babs so not surprised he didn't want to go to TO.

fonzz41 03-01-2017 06:40 AM

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From Nick Cotsonika:

McPhee can't acquire players in pros, but he can acquire picks and prospects in return for not taking players in expansion draft.

Interesting.

fonzz41 03-01-2017 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16731249)
Matty, what do you think about getting rid of the review of offsides?

https://youtu.be/R7pN56VZOfM

At first I thought you really actually wanted to know my opinion. Then I watched the clip.

TMoore4075 03-01-2017 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16731387)
From Nick Cotsonika:

McPhee can't acquire players in pros, but he can acquire picks and prospects in return for not taking players in expansion draft.

Interesting.

This will be interesting. Doubt anything happens now, but after the season as the expansion draft comes close? MAF is unable to get traded, what would PIT have to give up to get Vegas to not take Murray? A lot I'm sure but would be interesting.
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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16731406)
At first I thought you really actually wanted to know my opinion. Then I watched the clip.

Well as a ref I am curious what you think but of course when I saw the topic come up, that play came to mind. He was only a little offsides.

I get what people have a problem with, but offsides is offisdes to me. The coaches jobs are to win so they'll do what they can.

aeroshady 03-01-2017 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16731413)
This will be interesting. Doubt anything happens now, but after the season as the expansion draft comes close? MAF is unable to get traded, what would PIT have to give up to get Vegas to not take Murray? A lot I'm sure but would be interesting.

Well as a ref I am curious what you think but of course when I saw the topic come up, that play came to mind. He was only a little offsides.

I get what people have a problem with, but offsides is offisdes to me. The coaches jobs are to win so they'll do what they can.

What makes me not much of a fan of the rule is that it over analyzes the refs on the ice. An obvious offsides is one thing, but to call a ref on missing a close call like last night way before a goal is scored seems a bit much. If we can't rely on the refs for calls like this, why even have them? I feel like they are there do to a job, so let them.

There should still be some human elements to the game. Missed calls should be a part of that. I would argue that if you can overturn goals on offside calls, why can't you challenge penalty calls as well?


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