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dduncan6er 12-19-2011 12:10 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Rinaldo disagreed he said the hit was clean actually. That hit was a 2 minute penalty and nothing more. If you're going to suspend based on that hit, then every boarding call should be suspendable.

Roose13 12-19-2011 12:14 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Deserved the suspension, regardless of what Rinaldo said.

Bron Yr Aur 12-19-2011 12:16 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
That hit was most definitely not clean. When you see a guy's numbers the entire time and still throw him head-first into the boards, that warrants a suspension. Simple as that. When you see so many players going down with concussions, the league has to send a message that plays like that are not okay.

dduncan6er 12-19-2011 12:16 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Completely disagree. There's been much worse boarding calls this year that haven't even resulted in a phone call from Shannahan. The only reason he was supsended is because most people felt he should have been suspended after the Miller incident.

dduncan6er 12-19-2011 12:17 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 13199973)
That hit was most definitely not clean. When you see a guy's numbers the entire time and still throw him head-first into the boards, that warrants a suspension. Simple as that. When you see so many players going down with concussions, the league has to send a message that plays like that are not okay.

So why wasn't Cole suspended for a hit that was much worse than the hit Lucic put on Rinaldo?

Roose13 12-19-2011 12:29 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13199978)
So why wasn't Cole suspended for a hit that was much worse than the hit Lucic put on Rinaldo?


You shouldn't make a decision based off what Shanahan does or fails to do. The hit is illegal, case closed.

dduncan6er 12-19-2011 12:36 PM

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Illegal and suspendable are 2 different things.

Roose13 12-19-2011 12:37 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
It was suspendable. Be glad it was one game because it could and should have been more. You see numbers, you can hurt someone seriously.

dduncan6er 12-19-2011 12:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 13200050)
It was suspendable. Be glad it was one game because it could and should have been more. You see numbers, you can hurt someone seriously.

So every boarding call should be a multiple game suspension?

fonzz41 12-19-2011 12:42 PM

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The big issue I see Shanahan and others having to begin to address soon is the line between what is a penalty that warrants supplemental discipline, and what can be settled by the on-ice officials. That line is getting increasingly more grey, IMO. The league needs to come down hard on the head shots, but at what point are they starting to micromanage the job of the on-ice official? For example, IMO, Leino's elbowing penalty from a couple weeks back could have been settled by the referee.

Shanahan has done a great job so far, I'm as big a fan of his as anybody. But as the season progresses, that's something he needs to be careful of.

Roose13 12-19-2011 12:43 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13200055)
So every boarding call should be a multiple game suspension?

Until it's weened out of the sport, yes. You want head injuries decreased, start cracking down on any unnecessary hit, including elbowing, hits from behind and boardings.

dduncan6er 12-19-2011 12:44 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I was right. Hit wasn't too bad and he's being suspended primarily because of his history.
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...d=60&id=143408

If the Miller incident doesn't happen Lucic doesn't even get a phone call on this.

Roose13 12-19-2011 12:45 PM

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And I'm not sticking up for Rinaldo because he's "my guy." There shouldn't be a gray area anymore. Either go hard on penalties or not at all.

dduncan6er 12-19-2011 12:47 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I agree with you to an extent, but if every hit like that is suspendable then 75% of the players in the league will get a suspension this year.

dduncan6er 12-19-2011 12:50 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 13199973)
That hit was most definitely not clean. When you see a guy's numbers the entire time and still throw him head-first into the boards, that warrants a suspension. Simple as that. When you see so many players going down with concussions, the league has to send a message that plays like that are not okay.

“It’s hockey, you hit and go into the boards, I don’t think it was dirty at all,” Rinaldo told CSNPhilly.com reporter Tim Panaccio. “[It was] shoulder-to-shoulder and just momentum. He’s big guy, maybe double my weight. His momentum carried him into the boards awkwardly. I don’t think it was dirty at all.”

Rinaldo doesn't seem to think he got hit in the numbers.

Roose13 12-19-2011 01:09 PM

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Rinaldo also said he wants to be labeled a goal scorer this year :lol

dduncan6er 12-19-2011 01:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 13200161)
Rinaldo also said he wants to be labeled a goal scorer this year :lol

So because of that we won't listen to what he said about a hit he received. What does he have to gain from saying it was a clean hit?

Roose13 12-19-2011 01:26 PM

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It was a joke, DJ :rolleyes

Jsweeney 12-19-2011 01:39 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
saw that Giroux had a pretty good (albeit non-contact) practice...felt much better then last week...good sign!

Roose13 12-19-2011 01:42 PM

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Giroux was moving around like he never skipped a beat.

~Crashintome89~ 12-19-2011 01:53 PM

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in OMGCG world, you concuss concussions.

kev87lads 12-19-2011 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 13200283)
in OMGCG world, you concuss concussions.

:lol :lol

fonzz41 12-19-2011 03:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 13200283)
in OMGCG world, you concuss concussions.

:lol:lol:thumbsup

OMGCG once visited a psychic... to warn her.

fonzz41 12-19-2011 03:20 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Two games for Bourque. What an ugly hit... Surprised he didn't get more. Combination of no big injury and lack of priors are what kept the number of games low.

Bron Yr Aur 12-19-2011 03:29 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13200093)
“It’s hockey, you hit and go into the boards, I don’t think it was dirty at all,” Rinaldo told CSNPhilly.com reporter Tim Panaccio. “[It was] shoulder-to-shoulder and just momentum. He’s big guy, maybe double my weight. His momentum carried him into the boards awkwardly. I don’t think it was dirty at all.”

Rinaldo doesn't seem to think he got hit in the numbers.

Look, we get it, you're a Bruins fan. But he delivered a violent hit to a guy whose numbers were facing him and was in a compromising position. He eventually made first contact with Rinaldo's shoulder, but the guys shoulders were parallel with the boards and Lucic had plenty of time to minimize the hit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13200075)
I was right. Hit wasn't too bad and he's being suspended primarily because of his history.
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...d=60&id=143408

If the Miller incident doesn't happen Lucic doesn't even get a phone call on this.

This is nonsense. Of course his history has to do with it. A player who has never been suspended might have simply gotten a fine or slap on the wrist. But Lucic has previously been fined and suspended on different occasions, so it's obvious that had something to do with it.

Bron Yr Aur 12-19-2011 03:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 13200571)
Two games for Bourque. What an ugly hit... Surprised he didn't get more. Combination of no big injury and lack of priors are what kept the number of games low.

Yeah. I think it was right. Seabrook lost the puck and turned a bit at the last second and I think that made it worse for him.

But, I wouldn't rule out injury yet. It's been less than 24 hours since the incident.

fonzz41 12-19-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 13200597)
But, I wouldn't rule out injury yet. It's been less than 24 hours since the incident.

Very true. Shanny said there's no apparent major injury, but who knows what symptoms might surface in the next day or two.

monkeyman68 12-19-2011 04:24 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13199945)
Rinaldo disagreed he said the hit was clean actually. That hit was a 2 minute penalty and nothing more. If you're going to suspend based on that hit, then every boarding call should be suspendable.

Yikes, I don't even know where to begin.....

You watch the game? I'm guessing not. If you did, I'm sure you'd remember that your boy got a major for boarding and a game misconduct.

Dirty hit from a player that has a checkered history. Yea, he absolutely deserved to be suspended. Take the homer glasses off.....

dduncan6er 12-19-2011 04:30 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyman68 (Post 13200745)
Yikes, I don't even know where to begin.....

You watch the game? I'm guessing not. If you did, I'm sure you'd remember that your boy got a major for boarding and a game misconduct.

Dirty hit from a player that has a checkered history. Yea, he absolutely deserved to be suspended. Take the homer glasses off.....

I watched the game and I disagreed with the call on the ice. Thought it was 2 for boarding then and I think the same thing now. I'm not a homer when it comes to stuff like this. Thought Chara should have been suspended last year, thought lucic probably deserved a couple games for running miller, and I thought mcquaid probably should have got a game for kneeing this year. He was only suspended because of his history.

bonzo48280 12-19-2011 04:34 PM

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this was my favorite Teemu back in Winnipeg video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tbpxclxg7I


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