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bonzo48280 06-09-2011 02:51 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DmBand801 (Post 12665182)
He's a big game player. Always has been.

This is the right move for the Rangers, given the NMC he possesses in his deal.

by that do you mean his cap hit?

fonzz41 06-09-2011 03:02 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12665245)
by that do you mean his cap hit?

No Movement Clause

bonzo48280 06-09-2011 03:36 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12665269)
No Movement Clause

no i know. I meant that since his cap hit to talent ratio is so high, his no movement clause would in effect be his cap hit, since he would never be traded.

bonzo48280 06-09-2011 04:00 PM

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me messing around on capgeek:

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m)
Michael Frolik ($1.500m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Marcus Kruger ($0.900m) / John Madden ($0.600m) / Bryan Bickell ($0.541m)
Jeremy Morin ($0.886m) / Ryan Johnson ($0.500m) / Ben Smith ($0.812m)

DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell ($7.142m) / Brent Seabrook ($5.800m)
Duncan Keith ($5.538m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)
Nick Leddy ($1.116m) / John Scott ($0.512m)
Chris Campoli ($1.900m)

GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($2.666m) / Alexander Salak ($0.612m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,680,504; BONUSES: $965,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $2,519,496

Bron Yr Aur 06-10-2011 12:03 PM

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I can't believe people on the 300level would prefer Konopka to Madden. LOL

Not sure we bring Campoli back but if we do it will be for less than $1.9m, I would hope. Madden would probably get a little more than $0.6mil even if he's coming back for cheap. I definitely see more changes to the team than what you have there, but that team actually looks pretty decent to me.

Not sure if you intended for those lines to be a projection, but Morin would be useless on the 4th line.

bonzo48280 06-10-2011 01:35 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 12668245)
I can't believe people on the 300level would prefer Konopka to Madden. LOL

Not sure we bring Campoli back but if we do it will be for less than $1.9m, I would hope. Madden would probably get a little more than $0.6mil even if he's coming back for cheap. I definitely see more changes to the team than what you have there, but that team actually looks pretty decent to me.

Not sure if you intended for those lines to be a projection, but Morin would be useless on the 4th line.

there is still a lot of cap space on that team. Even if Madden takes more, he wouldn't go over a mil for a "cap friendly" deal, he made $1.5 last year.

For Campoli I went worst case for his cap hit.

I hate the 300 Level. I almost never go there anymore. A lot of dumb people there

Bron Yr Aur 06-10-2011 01:41 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12668552)
there is still a lot of cap space on that team. Even if Madden takes more, he wouldn't go over a mil for a "cap friendly" deal, he made $1.5 last year.

For Campoli I went worst case for his cap hit.

I hate the 300 Level. I almost never go there anymore. A lot of dumb people there

I just check it out every once in a while for a good laugh.

fonzz41 06-10-2011 01:42 PM

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Konopka wins faceoffs and is willing to fight. Other than that, he's not good for much else. Notice I said "willing to fight," as he's not even very good at winning them.

bonzo48280 06-10-2011 01:55 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12668576)
Konopka wins faceoffs and is willing to fight. Other than that, he's not good for much else. Notice I said "willing to fight," as he's not even very good at winning them.

I would take John Madden every day of the week of Konopka

bonzo48280 06-10-2011 04:50 PM

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“For me personally I want to make the next step as a player and try to become one of the elite players in the NHL. Some might say maybe I’m there already, but myself, personally, I feel I can be way better and do even more.” - Patrick Kane

He worked his ass off the year before they won the cup and he took a big step forward, then he partied all summer and stayed the same. If i'm any other team in the league, I'm worried about what Kaner will do next season. When he focuses and works his ass off, he's unstoppable.

bonzo48280 06-11-2011 10:23 AM

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The Stars may trade Brad Richards rights by tonight.

Alazais 06-12-2011 10:53 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12670486)
The Stars may trade Brad Richards rights by tonight.

According to Ekland.....

~Crashintome89~ 06-12-2011 10:58 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Eklund is only right when TSN has reported it.

fonzz41 06-13-2011 11:33 AM

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Looks like the Sens have a coach:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6657282

When I read the headline, I was like :confused, do they know what happened to the Devils this season? Then I realized which MacLean they were talking about. :lol

TMoore4075 06-13-2011 11:37 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12674995)
Looks like the Sens have a coach:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6657282

When I read the headline, I was like :confused, do they know what happened to the Devils this season? Then I realized which MacLean they were talking about. :lol

They are talking about the dude with the best stache out there. Sucks the Wings have to replace two assistants now. One good one and one who screwed over the PK.

fonzz41 06-13-2011 11:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12675007)
They are talking about the dude with the best stache out there. Sucks the Wings have to replace two assistants now. One good one and one who screwed over the PK.

A battle between him and Coach Q would indeed be intriguing.

kev87lads 06-13-2011 11:45 AM

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Stache' wars!

bonzo48280 06-15-2011 08:11 AM

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This time tomorrow this will be my home for the next year on this site. Here's hoping for the Cup

Rebecca De Mornay 06-15-2011 12:15 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Sabres and Bills will both be champions next year

wampa3 06-15-2011 07:46 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Alright, well now that that's over with, is it October yet?

bonzo48280 06-15-2011 08:04 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Watching all this hurts. I really want the Hawks to do it again.

gocubsgo3822 06-15-2011 08:07 PM

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didnt want this to get lost

Congrats to the Bruins fans and the 5 posts during the regular season (in the bruins thread).. Yall made Bulls fans proud of hopping on the bandwagon..


BRUINS!!!!!

Giant Jew 06-15-2011 08:07 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Lets Go Buffalo

Roose13 06-15-2011 08:12 PM

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Okay, new thread time.

rickyh24 06-15-2011 08:14 PM

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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA suck it Boston.

UCFish 06-15-2011 08:45 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12684179)
Watching all this hurts. I really want the Hawks to do it again.

Really.....I am not hurting but happy as shit...hurting would have been watching the Canucks raise it...


Although does bring back 6 weeks ago when Sharp should have buried it on the PP...

lockman21 06-15-2011 10:21 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
So, what do the canucks do with lolololololololololuongo

bonzo48280 06-15-2011 10:25 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12684669)
So, what do the canucks do with lolololololololololuongo

send him out to riot and hope he doesn't come back

DMBZeppelin 06-16-2011 01:07 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12684669)
So, what do the canucks do with lolololololololololuongo

Look forward to the 2022-2023 season when he's not under contract.

gocubsgo3822 06-16-2011 03:15 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
So is vancouver the hats version of detroit.. Just a shitty city with riots all the time?

~Crashintome89~ 06-16-2011 05:33 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12684676)
send him out to riot and hope he doesn't come back

seriously, he would probably be trampled. Great way to save some cap.

kev87lads 06-16-2011 06:07 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Welp... Might as well post this in here too. Looking toward the future now.....

Teams should be lining up to play the Flyers in next year's playoffs. Three years running. You beat the Flyers, you win the Cup...

swordo84 06-16-2011 06:23 AM

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14 weeks until training camps open!!!!

Edit, shiiiite time for an avatar change.

joepsu0985 06-16-2011 06:50 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 12684919)
Welp... Might as well post this in here too. Looking toward the future now.....

Teams should be lining up to play the Flyers in next year's playoffs. Three years running. You beat the Flyers, you win the Cup...

I want they flyers any and every year in the playoffs. Can't wait until October. Hate summer.

TMoore4075 06-16-2011 06:56 AM

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I'm looking forward to July 1. My team will actually be active in free agency this year so that will be fun. But then of course you have to wait 3 months after that for the actual season to start which sucks.

kev87lads 06-16-2011 07:19 AM

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Bring on October for sure. Flyers have a chance to be interesting at the draft and then free agency with some fringe players depending who they sign, don't sign and trade of their own.

We'll see.

dduncan6er 06-16-2011 07:36 AM

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Bruins still have a top 10 pick!!!! Thanks Leafs.

fonzz41 06-16-2011 08:06 AM

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Now here's a question... Mark Recchi: Hall of Fame?

I know what I think, but what say ye?

Here's some stats:
1533 points(577 G / 956 A) in 1652 games
147 points in 189 playoff games
3 Stanley Cups
7 All-Star game appearances (1 MVP)

Those are just the stats, let's not forget his multiple leadership roles and the example he's been to younger players, not to mention his longevity.

lockman21 06-16-2011 08:53 AM

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Recchi is a class act too.

TMoore4075 06-16-2011 08:59 AM

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So news out there that if Jagr doesn't stay in Europe he's contact a number of NHL teams. Montreal, Pittsburgh, NYR and Detroit were the teams. Not so sure about that. If he's cheap then he might be worth the risk but not feeling this one.

JRS1386 06-16-2011 09:31 AM

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Recchi is the epitome of what a veteran hockey player should be. He gets in if I was in charge

Lee3691 06-16-2011 09:31 AM

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http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politic...-photo-5929916

I guess there were some Boston fans in Vancouver

TMoore4075 06-16-2011 09:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee3691 (Post 12685700)
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politic...-photo-5929916

I guess there were some Boston fans in Vancouver

I saw that earlier today. Makes me wonder what they were thinking. "Hey honey this rioting and looting turns me on I want you right now. No seriously... I mean RIGHT NOW."

joepsu0985 06-16-2011 09:42 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12685311)
Now here's a question... Mark Recchi: Hall of Fame?

I know what I think, but what say ye?

Here's some stats:
1533 points(577 G / 956 A) in 1652 games
147 points in 189 playoff games
3 Stanley Cups
7 All-Star game appearances (1 MVP)

Those are just the stats, let's not forget his multiple leadership roles and the example he's been to younger players, not to mention his longevity.

Yeah, I think he gets in eventually. He's definitely a class act.

bonzo48280 06-17-2011 12:59 PM

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Canucks Eulogy: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-wp7462

~Crashintome89~ 06-18-2011 07:49 AM

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Recchi is a tough call for me, IMO. Guy has a lot of points, but he's under a PPG in both regular season play and the playoffs. I think if you're going to make the Hall of Fame, you need at least a PPG.

bonzo48280 06-18-2011 08:53 AM

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Weber and Parise can't get offer sheets anymore thanks to club arbitration. Seems kind of dumb if you ask me. sucks for Detroit I thought could throw Weber and offer sheet if they wanted

DMBCubs25 06-18-2011 12:26 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12684179)
Watching all this hurts. I really want the Hawks to do it again.

Hawks will be back in a big way next year. Hoping Bowman can get some gritty players for the bottom 6 and add some center depth.

monkeyman68 06-18-2011 02:39 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12691796)
Recchi is a tough call for me, IMO. Guy has a lot of points, but he's under a PPG in both regular season play and the playoffs. I think if you're going to make the Hall of Fame, you need at least a PPG.

That happens when you play until you are 43. The longevity of his career skews his numbers a bit.

Recchi should be a lock for the HOF

hoke2007 06-18-2011 02:44 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Can't wait to see what the Wings do over the summer. I'm really wanting Lidstrom to come back, but I just don't feel confident that he will. What do you think about it Tim?


Quote:

Originally Posted by gocubsgo3822 (Post 12684752)
So is vancouver the hats version of detroit.. Just a shitty city with riots all the time?

Shut the hell up. You have literally no idea what you're talking about.

~Crashintome89~ 06-18-2011 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12684179)
Watching all this hurts. I really want the Hawks to do it again.

How do you think we feel!?!?!?

DmBand801 06-18-2011 08:07 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12691858)
Weber and Parise can't get offer sheets anymore thanks to club arbitration. Seems kind of dumb if you ask me. sucks for Detroit I thought could throw Weber and offer sheet if they wanted

This is smart for both the Devils and the Predators. Don't let other teams have a chance to dictate your salary for these players.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12693069)
How do you think we feel!?!?!?

LOL Flyers.

bonzo48280 06-18-2011 08:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12693069)
How do you think we feel!?!?!?

at least you always lose to the champ

bonzo48280 06-18-2011 08:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DmBand801 (Post 12693105)
This is smart for both the Devils and the Predators. Don't let other teams have a chance to dictate your salary for these players.

I think it's stupid that they can even do that.

DmBand801 06-18-2011 08:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12693114)
I think it's stupid that they can even do that.

Eh. You need to have something in place that allows a team a chance to avoid offer sheets altogether.

bonzo48280 06-18-2011 08:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DmBand801 (Post 12693122)
Eh. You need to have something in place that allows a team a chance to avoid offer sheets altogether.

they do have something in place, the entire year leading up to July 1st

DmBand801 06-18-2011 08:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12693128)
they do have something in place, the entire year leading up to July 1st

How many teams do you think enjoy negotiating during the regular season?

jackisback24 06-19-2011 05:41 AM

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Bruins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dmbetc 06-19-2011 06:37 AM

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So, who gets the NHL '12 cover? I say Luongo.


:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol jk.

Seriously, let's get some goalie love, and put Henrik Lundqvist since he was robbed out of the Vezina Trophy nomination.

swordo84 06-19-2011 07:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 12693639)
So, who gets the NHL '12 cover? I say Luongo.


:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol jk.

Seriously, let's get some goalie love, and put Henrik Lundqvist since he was robbed out of the Vezina Trophy nomination.

My guess is one of the Sedin sisters.

dmbetc 06-19-2011 07:18 AM

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They would have to do both of them or else they would cry for being separated.

swordo84 06-19-2011 07:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 12693687)
They would have to do both of them or else they would cry for being separated.

:lol:lol

...actually, both of them wouldn't surprise me either.

dduncan6er 06-19-2011 08:54 AM

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If Tim Thomas is not on the cover of NHL '12 that'd be ridiculous. He got robbed of a Hart trophy nomination.

swordo84 06-19-2011 09:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12693816)
If Tim Thomas is not on the cover of NHL '12 that'd be ridiculous. He got robbed of a Hart trophy nomination.


Hmmm, that's another good guess!

lockman21 06-19-2011 09:56 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Probably Kane and Toews together this time.

andrewj063 06-19-2011 10:01 AM

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I'm pretty pumped for the draft this week, going to it on Friday!

UCFish 06-19-2011 10:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12693902)
Probably Kane and Toews together this time.

:thumbsup

DMBCubs25 06-19-2011 02:57 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if it were Chara.

dduncan6er 06-19-2011 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMBCubs25 (Post 12694320)
I wouldn't be surprised if it were Chara.

I wonder if anyone in Montreal would buy the game if he was on the cover.:lol

bonzo48280 06-19-2011 06:06 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 12693683)
My guess is one of the Sedin sisters.

they were on the cover of NHL 11 in Europe, they won't get it.

I bet it will be Stamkos

~Crashintome89~ 06-19-2011 06:34 PM

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I vote Stamkos or Thomas.

Any other choice is a farce, IMO.

I'm also shocked Crosby has not been on the cover yet. WTF?

bonzo48280 06-19-2011 06:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12694653)
I vote Stamkos or Thomas.

Any other choice is a farce, IMO.

I'm also shocked Crosby has not been on the cover yet. WTF?

he won't be this year either

also, the cover athlete is getting announced at the Awards

lockman21 06-19-2011 07:07 PM

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http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_as...flow_chart.jpg

~Crashintome89~ 06-19-2011 07:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12694758)

"There's more than one team?"

:lol :lol :lol

bradshaw06 06-19-2011 09:19 PM

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Honestly it should be Giroux.

bonzo48280 06-19-2011 09:27 PM

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cap to be between 63.5 and 64 million.

my Hawks dream team with the new cap:

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Patrick Kane ($6.300m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Jeremy Morin ($0.886m)
Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Brooks Laich ($4.500m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Michael Frolik ($1.500m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Bryan Bickell ($0.541m)
Marcus Kruger ($0.900m) / John Madden ($0.750m) / Ben Smith ($0.812m)
Viktor Stalberg ($1.000m)

DEFENSEMEN
Duncan Keith ($5.538m) / Brent Seabrook ($5.800m)
Brian Campbell ($7.142m) / Brent Sopel ($1.500m)
Nick Leddy ($1.116m) / Chris Campoli ($1.700m)
John Scott ($0.512m)

GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($2.666m) / Alexander Salak ($0.612m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,630,504; BONUSES: $965,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,369,496

lockman21 06-19-2011 10:16 PM

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All due respect my good friend, but I would not be happy if that's the best the Hawks could put on the ice next year.

bonzo48280 06-19-2011 10:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12695389)
All due respect my good friend, but I would not be happy if that's the best the Hawks could put on the ice next year.

enlighten me. I really don't see how it gets much better/worse...although I'm sure you'll look at the D and see that getting better. I still think if we trade Hammer we'll have some decent room to really add some nice depth to this team

lockman21 06-19-2011 11:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12695402)
enlighten me. I really don't see how it gets much better/worse...although I'm sure you'll look at the D and see that getting better. I still think if we trade Hammer we'll have some decent room to really add some nice depth to this team

Well you lost Hjalmarsson, who is 24, to add Sopel who is 34. Yeah Hjalmarsson didn't have the best year but I'm not ready to throw him under THAT bus. Sopel is only getting slower and worse, Hjalmarsson will continue to get better.

BUT, even if we did make that switch, you didn't really add much depth besides Brooks, who I think would be a mistake at a decent contract length (3-5 years) at 4.5. I like the guys game, don't get me wrong, but you're essentially dumping a contract to make cap room (that we don't really need if the cap is at 64 million) just to take that cleared cap space back with another overpaid player, and in the process weaken our blue line (which is what the Hawks want to win us games). So what would getting rid of Hjalmarrson really do?

PLUS you cut Troy Brouwer loose, who I think is the most underrated player on our roster. Guy was fifth in the league in hits while only taking 38 PIM. Plus he had 17 goals which should have been more if it weren't for him playing injured the last part of the season and going through that scoring drought. He's a guy that doesn't take penalties, actually hits people, fights if he needs to, can score goals, and can play on any line. Brouw needs to be back. Especially if we can keep him for less than $2 million, which we probably would be able to.

Then adding John Madden sounds nice, but I like the job Ryan Johnson did just fine. If I'm Stan Bowman, I'm not trying to rebuild the Stanley Cup team. This team needs to have it's own dynamics and personality. If you need that kind of guy, Ryan Johnson works just fine at a 500k cap hit. We brought in Madden for leadership from a guy that's won the Cup before, now that they all have there's no need for him on the roster. I love Madden, but no need to sign him.

So really, with that roster, you're looking at a team that's lost pieces from last year that should still be there (Hjalmarsson and Brouwer) and didn't really add much that we can't go get anyway.

Here's just an idea. I'm a fan of either Brooks or Steve, but only IF we can get them under $4 million. No need to weaken our defense to get one of them.

Quote:

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Patrick Kane ($6.300m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Troy Brouwer ($1.725m)
Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Steve Sullivan ($3.750m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Ben Smith ($0.812m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Jeremy Morin ($0.886m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.541m) / Ryan Johnson ($0.500m) / Marcus Kruger ($0.900m)
/ / Viktor Stalberg ($0.850m)

DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell ($7.142m) / Brent Seabrook ($5.800m)
Duncan Keith ($5.538m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)
Nick Leddy ($1.116m) / Chris Campoli ($1.600m)
/ John Scott ($0.512m)

GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($2.666m) / Alexander Salak ($0.612m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,605,504; BONUSES: $965,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $394,496
Unless, however, LaLonde is ready to go. Then it's a different story.

bonzo48280 06-19-2011 11:56 PM

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my whole point about Hammer is that I think you could sell him pretty high. if his role is going to be "Brian Campbell's Safety Net" then we could get a guy for cheaper than $3.5 to do that job. It doesn't have to be Sopel, I just put him because I think he would take a discount to comeback since his family still lives here. I would kill for Hammer to step it up this year, and if he does I will have no problem swallowing it and saying I was wrong and being totally pumped that he is playing better, I just don't think that he will.

Troy Brouwer became an absolute GHOST at the end of the season, and has never ever been able to find his role on this team. He goes to the 3rd or the 4th line, and it's about how we're wasting potential and a big body. You put him with Kane and Toews and he doesn't score the goals that he should be scoring, anybody can score as the other guy with Kane and Toews. This year was his year to step up, especially with all of the depth we lost and the leadership he could have stepped into, and he didn't. I also don't think he is coming cheaper than $2 million. There are teams out there that would love a guy like him and he'll come higher than $2 mil I think.

I threw John Madden in because there are rumors that he's going to come back with a "cap-friendly" deal. I love Ryan Johnson, and honestly out of those two it's apples and oranges. I think Ryan Johnson can win draws better than Madden but I think Madden is better on the kill. Either way you can't go wrong for your 4th line guy.

I think we can both agree that Bolland is better in the 3rd line role, and if that's the role he takes full time next season, he is probably the best checking line center in the league. I think Laich is the best 2nd line center available. He is two-way, puts up could numbers, can drop them when he needs to, and is a good leader.

TMoore4075 06-20-2011 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by hoke2007 (Post 12692329)
Can't wait to see what the Wings do over the summer. I'm really wanting Lidstrom to come back, but I just don't feel confident that he will. What do you think about it Tim?




Shut the hell up. You have literally no idea what you're talking about.

No idea. I had a feeling he was staying but I'm getting a little worried. If he doesn't come back the Wings will at least have cap space like crazy to spend. Then maybe they do go after Richards to add some offense because lets face it there is no way you can come close to finding guys good enough to fill in for Lidstrom and Rafalski. Suter next offseason though would be great. We'll know this week on Lidstrom, earlier rather than later because the he's not Favre or anything and respects the team that helped him win 4 Cups and will let them have time to plan for UFA or make a trade this weekend at the draft.

dduncan6er 06-20-2011 05:13 AM

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I've never seen a team whine more and make more excuses than Vancouver.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-wp7505

TMoore4075 06-20-2011 06:41 AM

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Wings have called an 11am conference call with Holland and Lidstrom. He's back. They would not announce his retirement by phone call. At least I don't think so. It would be kinda suck if that was how it went down. Rafalski who was here for 4 years gets a PC but you are on the phone Nick.

TMoore4075 06-20-2011 06:50 AM

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It's for sure he's back. 1 year deal. $$ not out yet. He made $6mil last year so my guess is around that. Now if he took $5mil... It could be a fun summer.

kev87lads 06-20-2011 07:00 AM

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Great news, Tim. :thumbsup

TMoore4075 06-20-2011 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 12695769)
Great news, Tim. :thumbsup

Great news for me, the Wings and the whole league well in terms of watching maybe now for some of the players who have to play against him.

fonzz41 06-20-2011 07:20 AM

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The whole league is fortunate to have Lidstrom for another year. His poise, talent, and class are one of the things that make the NHL great.

TMoore4075 06-20-2011 07:21 AM

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Here's something for everyone from capgeek.com: With all signs pointing toward a $64m cap, here's the upper limit's evolution: $39.0m, $44.0m, $50.3m, $56.7m, $56.8m, $59.4m and $64m. and the floor's evolution: $23.0m, $28.0m, $34.3m, $40.7m, $40.8m, $43.4m, $48.0m.

People can say how great it is for the league but my guess is teams with mid-ranger to lower payrolls aren't happy with it. Elevating salaries and runaway payrolls were supposed to be eliminated. yeah right. Good for my team and other spenders but not good for Nashville, FLA, Phoenix and so on.

I also find it hilarious that in 01-02 people were flipping out with the Wings payroll of $65 mil. The Rangers and Avs were probably close to it that year too. But how many teams will be at ora round $64mil this year? Probably a lot more than 3 teams.

TMoore4075 06-20-2011 07:59 AM

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Lidstrom's salary will be the same as this past season at $6.2mil. Still not bad for one of the best defensemen ever.

DmBand801 06-20-2011 09:54 AM

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I couldn't see him retiring, after the year he had last year. Good to see him back.

TMoore4075 06-20-2011 10:37 AM

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Also if the cap is indeed $64mil, the max contract for a player is now $12.8mil.

dduncan6er 06-20-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12696725)
Also if the cap is indeed $64mil, the max contract for a player is now $12.8mil.

That's good news for Stamkos. :lol

TMoore4075 06-20-2011 10:52 AM

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See I was gonna say good for the Leafs they can sign Richards to that deal to convince him to go to TO now.

dduncan6er 06-20-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12696807)
See I was gonna say good for the Leafs they can sign Richards to that deal to convince him to go to TO now.

:lol That'd be hilarious if he got anywhere close to that deal.

kev87lads 06-20-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12696753)
That's good news for Stamkos. :lol

I thought the same thing when I saw that. :lol

~Crashintome89~ 06-20-2011 11:00 AM

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I'm surprised Lidstrom didn't take a cap hit. I thought he would, maybe try and get a key FA defenseman to come on over for a year before Lidstrom leaves.

dduncan6er 06-20-2011 11:00 AM

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Will Tampa pay to keep Stamkos if a team throws a crazy offer sheet at Stamkos?

bonzo48280 06-20-2011 11:42 AM

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Andrew Ladd would be nice

TMoore4075 06-20-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12697032)
Andrew Ladd would be nice

As the captain of the Jets? Yeah you're right.

bonzo48280 06-20-2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12697054)
As the captain of the Jets? Yeah you're right.

he already is the captain, or at least he was last year.


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