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fonzz41 12-30-2013 08:25 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Oduya is so underrated as a solid, dependable, 2nd tier d-man.

bonzo48280 12-30-2013 09:32 PM

The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
I think hjalmarsson is more of the secret than Oduya, and they are really the 1st pairing because they have been getting top assignments all year, because Seabrook sucks.

Anyway, Kings real good, Hawks way better.

bonzo48280 12-30-2013 10:02 PM

Hahahahahahah

@FaberBrandon: In the 2013 calendar year, the #Blackhawks played 113 total games and lost just 21 times in regulation.

fonzz41 12-30-2013 11:38 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 15008072)
I think hjalmarsson is more of the secret than Oduya, and they are really the 1st pairing because they have been getting top assignments all year, because Seabrook sucks.

Anyway, Kings real good, Hawks way better.

That's cool - wasn't really trying to compare, just making an observation about Oduya. But certainly Hjalmarsson has grown into playing a very solid role for the club.

kev87lads 12-31-2013 10:00 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Another SO win! First time the Flyers have won two shootouts in a row since 2006. lollerflyers.

And lollernucks while I'm at it.

hailtopitt 12-31-2013 10:04 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 15009081)
Another SO win! First time the Flyers have won two shootouts in a row since 2006. lollerflyers.

And lollernucks while I'm at it.

holy crap to the bolded, i thought DET was bad in the SO

Bron Yr Aur 12-31-2013 10:19 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15008362)
That's cool - wasn't really trying to compare, just making an observation about Oduya. But certainly Hjalmarsson has grown into playing a very solid role for the club.

I will agree with bonzo in that Hammer is the better player. He is just much more solid in the defensive zone. Almost never seems to make a mistake. Oduya is more dynamic with his quickness but tends to gamble a bit more and make a few more mistakes.

But even though folks look at Keith & Seabrook as the #1 D-pair, Oduya and Hjalmarsson is the pair that plays the most minutes against the toughest competition. Part of the reason the Hawks are so good is that those two can stifle opposing top lines and free up Keith & Seabrook to utilize their offensive skills a bit more.

Roose13 12-31-2013 11:15 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 15009081)
Another SO win! First time the Flyers have won two shootouts in a row since 2006. lollerflyers.

And lollernucks while I'm at it.

You have the stat wrong. From their PR when they email us the post game sheets:

Quote:

These two games mark the first time since March 6-8, 2006 that the Flyers have won consecutive games in the shootout.

bradshaw06 12-31-2013 11:43 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Team USA announced tomorrow. Any last minute predictions?

bonzo48280 12-31-2013 11:45 AM

Saad is making it

ZacBrown 12-31-2013 11:46 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15003698)
hahahaha, canada lost in a shootout.

hahaha USA loses to Canada!!! Takes first place. Happy New Years.

bradshaw06 12-31-2013 11:57 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...oices/4257385/

Kevin Allens predictions (he had access to meetings).
Parise-Kesler-Kane
JVR-Pavelski-Kessel
Brown-Backes-Callahan
Pacioretty-Stastny-Oshie

Extra: Wheeler, Stepan

Suter-Martin
McDonagh-Fowler
Orpik-Shattenkirk
JJ-Faulk

Miller
Quick
Howard

dmbetc 12-31-2013 11:58 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 15009313)
Team USA announced tomorrow. Any last minute predictions?

A bit worried about Brownie making it.

Bron Yr Aur 12-31-2013 12:01 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Dustin Brown....past his prime if you ask me. Brandon Saad is the better player and IMO should make it instead. Probably won't happen, though.

bonzo48280 12-31-2013 12:10 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Saad should make it over Callahan, Pacioretty, and Oshie

TMoore4075 12-31-2013 12:15 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Watching these old guys is brutal.

lockman21 12-31-2013 12:18 PM

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:lol First off...classic Hawks fan idiotic posts. 1 said Seabrool sucks and another saying 29 year old Brown is "past his prime". I love when Bron thinks hockey players are past their prime like they are on the same career clocks as NFL running backs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 15009359)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...oices/4257385/

Kevin Allens predictions (he had access to meetings).
Parise-Kesler-Kane
JVR-Pavelski-Kessel
Brown-Backes-Callahan
Pacioretty-Stastny-Oshie

Extra: Wheeler, Stepan

Suter-Martin
McDonagh-Fowler
Orpik-Shattenkirk
JJ-Faulk

Miller
Quick
Howard

I've heard that it's Miller's net. Which it should be.

Shocker leaving off Ryan and Yandle. USA is smoking crack leaving those two off.

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Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 15009363)
A bit worried about Brownie making it.

He'll make it!

kev87lads 12-31-2013 12:20 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 15009259)
You have the stat wrong. From their PR when they email us the post game sheets:

Whew. Good. Thanks, John.

Either way. They still suck in the SO.

Bron Yr Aur 12-31-2013 12:24 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15009417)
:lol First off...classic Hawks fan idiotic posts. 1 said Seabrool sucks and another saying 29 year old Brown is "past his prime". I love when Bron thinks hockey players are past their prime like they are on the same career clocks as NFL running backs.

Give me a break Chris. Brown was always one of the more overrated players in the league if you ask me. But he has not looked good this year.

But yes, forwards' prime years are generally 25-27.

lockman21 12-31-2013 12:54 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 15009445)
Give me a break Chris. Brown was always one of the more overrated players in the league if you ask me. But he has not looked good this year.

But yes, forwards' prime years are generally 25-27.

How much LA Kings hockey have you watched to make a statement like this?

I think Brown is rated extremely appropriately. He's only been in one all-star game, he's not a huge points guy, but brings a physicality to the game and is defensively very responsible. He takes away time and space very well, which will be very key in Sochi. Having the bigger ice is going to require guys that can do that.

Brown is a great choice.

And as for the age thing, look at tons of guys around the league. You're ridiculous. You don't even need to leave Chicago. Patrick Sharp has been getting better and better as he gets older, is having the best season of his life, and is 32. Wayne Gretzky still was putting up 130+ point seasons into his mid-30s. Jagr is still effective at 41, Selanne has clearly slowed down but was still great into his late 30s and early 40s.

To think that Brown is "past his prime" at 29 is hysterical.

dmbetc 12-31-2013 01:02 PM

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I wouldn't say that Brown has not looked good but he isn't on top of his game. That has a lot to do with injuries, some of which weren't publicly known. I believe he will find his way back to getting more points. But yes, he is still playing LA Kings/Brown hockey (hard hitting, wear down the opponent).

I know he is frustrated as he just signed a big contract and wanted to come out having a better year. It'll come though.

dmbetc 12-31-2013 01:32 PM

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NBC Sports Network is showing the Top 10 Toughest Places to Play right now. What will be #1?

lockman21 12-31-2013 01:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 15009580)
NBC Sports Network is showing the Top 10 Toughest Places to Play right now. What will be #1?

Right now or all time?

Chicago or Boston

Bron Yr Aur 12-31-2013 01:51 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15009502)
How much LA Kings hockey have you watched to make a statement like this?

I think Brown is rated extremely appropriately. He's only been in one all-star game, he's not a huge points guy, but brings a physicality to the game and is defensively very responsible. He takes away time and space very well, which will be very key in Sochi. Having the bigger ice is going to require guys that can do that.

I don't know if I agree with this. On the bigger ice, the US should be looking for guys who have elite speed and skill.

Quote:

And as for the age thing, look at tons of guys around the league. You're ridiculous. You don't even need to leave Chicago. Patrick Sharp has been getting better and better as he gets older, is having the best season of his life, and is 32. Wayne Gretzky still was putting up 130+ point seasons into his mid-30s. Jagr is still effective at 41, Selanne has clearly slowed down but was still great into his late 30s and early 40s.

To think that Brown is "past his prime" at 29 is hysterical.
Dude, you can't pick out three of the greatest forwards ever and Patrick Sharp to argue that the mid-20's aren't the prime ages for forwards. Why on earth would you compare a guy like Dustin Brown to those guys?

For every Patrick Sharp there are many more guys like Scott Gomez who flame out in their early 30's. The fact is that most forwards' scoring prime is ages 25 & 26. That much is inarguable.

Roose13 12-31-2013 02:00 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 15009616)
I don't know if I agree with this. On the bigger ice, the US should be looking for guys who have elite speed and skill.



Dude, you can't pick out three of the greatest forwards ever and Patrick Sharp to argue that the mid-20's aren't the prime ages for forwards. Why on earth would you compare a guy like Dustin Brown to those guys?

For every Patrick Sharp there are many more guys like Scott Gomez who flame out in their early 30's. The fact is that most forwards' scoring prime is ages 25 & 26. That much is inarguable.

Brown isn't a scoring forward, dude :confused

lockman21 12-31-2013 02:06 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 15009616)
I don't know if I agree with this. On the bigger ice, the US should be looking for guys who have elite speed and skill.



Dude, you can't pick out three of the greatest forwards ever and Patrick Sharp to argue that the mid-20's aren't the prime ages for forwards. Why on earth would you compare a guy like Dustin Brown to those guys?

For every Patrick Sharp there are many more guys like Scott Gomez who flame out in their early 30's. The fact is that most forwards' scoring prime is ages 25 & 26. That much is inarguable.

:lol I don't even know why I bother.

Anyway, they just announced Stevie Y, and it compelled me to rewatch one of my all time favorite non-Blackhawk playoff moments (even if it is Detroit):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRoNqiiY6Lg

lockman21 12-31-2013 02:09 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Also, congrats to Jimmy Howard on making team USA. How do you feel about that Tim?

fonzz41 12-31-2013 02:34 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 15009120)
I will agree with bonzo in that Hammer is the better player. He is just much more solid in the defensive zone. Almost never seems to make a mistake. Oduya is more dynamic with his quickness but tends to gamble a bit more and make a few more mistakes.

But even though folks look at Keith & Seabrook as the #1 D-pair, Oduya and Hjalmarsson is the pair that plays the most minutes against the toughest competition. Part of the reason the Hawks are so good is that those two can stifle opposing top lines and free up Keith & Seabrook to utilize their offensive skills a bit more.

:lol Again, I wasn't comparing the two, just making a statement about Oduya. I've watched both enough to make comparisons.
Me: "Oduya is a really stead--"
Hawks fans: "HAMMER!
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Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 15009390)
Saad should make it over Callahan, Pacioretty, and Oshie

Yes definitely to Pacioretty. Love the idea of a player like Saad playing for the Yanks. :thumbsup
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15009417)
.
I've heard that it's Miller's net. Which it should be.

Shocker leaving off Ryan and Yandle. USA is smoking crack leaving those two off.

Agree with all of this, obviously.

Basically, if USA goes with any other team than the one I suggested, they are screwed.

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Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 15009514)
I wouldn't say that Brown has not looked good but he isn't on top of his game. That has a lot to do with injuries, some of which weren't publicly known. I believe he will find his way back to getting more points. But yes, he is still playing LA Kings/Brown hockey (hard hitting, wear down the opponent).

I know he is frustrated as he just signed a big contract and wanted to come out having a better year. It'll come though.

I was wondering if perhaps he's had some nagging injuries that aren't being talked about. Just not his usual tenacious self out there.

Still, he 100% is the type of player you want on an Olympic roster. It's about balancing the roster with the right types of skill sets, and Brown brings a dynamic to the table that few other countries can match.

Roose13 12-31-2013 02:42 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15009713)

Still, he 100% is the type of player you want on an Olympic roster. It's about balancing the roster with the right types of skill sets, and Brown brings a dynamic to the table that few other countries can match.

The roster balance was why USA was so good four years ago and nearly beat the over-talented (best problem ever :lol) Canadian team.

fonzz41 12-31-2013 02:48 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 15009735)
The roster balance was why USA was so good four years ago and nearly beat the over-talented (best problem ever :lol) Canadian team.

You got it buddy. It's about finding the right guys to fill roles on the team. Likes been said before, it's not about looking at a stat sheet and pickin the top 20 guys.


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