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Well this means that there will be 3 straight years of Vancouver's season ending in hilarious fashion at Rogers Arena!

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Nah....league average conversion rate penalty shots/SO's is something like ~33%. That's certainly a non-negligible improvement in your chances over the best PP's (~25%) or the average PP (less than 20%)....

Giving them both is too much.

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It just changes the dynamic of the game, IMO. Had the Kings got the 2 minutes instead of the PS, would that game have gone 3-1? It sucks to have your guy tripped and go right back to the PK.

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Ah, yeah I didn't see it. But I suppose if you are already on the penalty kill then yeah it could be really important to get the 2-min PP and get off the PK.

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No way they win the series though. L.A in 6.

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1). Tonight's game was pretty tough to watch

2). Only thing worse than the Flyers game might have been the backread for this thread. WTF happened in here?

3). I'm glad that this game ended the way it did. The Flyers needed a very loud wake-up call. While it is easy to blame a lot of the problems on Brzy (who has been terrible during the last two games), the Flyers D and the Flyers PK have looked awful. Let's be honest, the Flyers aren't going to get to the SCF without playing the Bruins and/or the Rags. I don't see the Flyers getting past either one of those teams if they continue to play defense like this. Hopefully this game allows the team to re-focus their attention to the defensive aspect of their game.

I think it is kinda funny how a lot of Flyers fans seem to be a little rattled at this point. Did anyone think that the Flyers were going to sweep this series when the playoffs started? The Flyers have shown (all season/post season) that they can consistently beat the Pens. The only way that the Flyers loose this series if they get AHL level goaltending for the next 3 games. I just don't see that happening.....

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I hate this argument. Of course no one thought the Flyers would sweep when the series begin, but we also did not know that they would be up 3-0 nor that they would score 20 goals in the first three games when the playoffs started. After the first puck is dropped you can throw what you thought was going to drop right out the window because it rarely goes like expected in the playoffs. Because its the Cup.

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None of the games went as I wanted last night. Canucks are a different team when both sisters are playing, that's for sure.

Kings still win it though.

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So I'm moving to offseason stuff for a second with obvious reasons...Luongo. Starting to think Schneider is their guy now. A lot of media types out there are suggesting this as well. He would be difficult to move but anyone who needs a goalie would be happy even with a guy who hasn't done anything in the postseason but once. Schneider will be cheaper regardless of what he gets in a new contract. Thoughts??

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Don't worry, we don't like the Sens either.

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Wake-up call was needed. Flyers get back on track on Friday. This team is different from any of the Richards era teams.

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The issue I think they'll run into is finding someone to take on Luongo's contract.

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Can anyone tell my why Cooke got kicked out last night? Was at a party and couldn't hear the explanation on tv. Is getting knocked on your ass repeatedly and not retaliating a penalty in hockey?

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When your Matt Cooke, yes it is.

The refs were just being overcautious. They were told by the league to call pretty much everything and they weren't taking any chances with the score being 10-3.

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They were going to toss everyone out of that game that was involved in anything whether they were the agressor or not. The last thing those refs wanted was a repeat of game 3.

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so basically they were doing him a favor by taking him out of the situation? makes sense i guess.... thanks for the explanation. :thumbsup

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Yeah same with Rinaldo. That crap on Sunday he would have been back out there. They let him get ready for the plane early.

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Just a thought do the Leafs have the cap room to take on Luongo? That would be all kinds of awesome.

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Yeah that'll be the biggest thing. I think it's time for both to part if they can. He's going to be the scapegoat forever now after the Finals last year. He can almost do nothing right. So it would be best for him to get a fresh start and for Vancouver to move on. A lot easier when you have someone like Schneider.

No. That 13th place team in the East has 56mil committed to next year. They are one of the teams most desperately in need of a goalie but if Vancouver was tough what will TO be like on him?

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I guess in my limited hockey watching so far, I haven't really seen NHL officials do something that makes so much sense so it left me confused. :lol

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The reason I'd love to see him in Toronto is to see him try to handle that pressure. It'd be entertaining to say the least.

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I wonder how the NHL their refs are going to bone the Hawks tonight. Should be fun to watch.

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Alzner came out yesterday and said he wasn't calling a Lucic a cry baby at the end of game 3 and said he definitely doesn't want to fight him. Pretty funny stuff. Caps dressing Erskine and I'm sure he'll be chasing Lucic around trying to get him to drop em. I really hope Lucic doesn't waste 5 minutes on him.

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There are teams that need a goaltender that have the cap room, and one of them isn't the Leafs. It all depends on this CBA too. Vancouver might get REALLY lucky depending on the new CBA.

Assuming not much changes on that front, I can see teams like the Jets (who need to resign Evander Kane, Kyle Wellwood and Tanner Glass...but other than that have no real offseason commitments and no goaltenders under contract), Panthers (Tallon has no problem with big contracts and come on...Theodore isn't the answer there), Oil if they can dump Khabibulin somehow, Lightning, etc.

There would be places to move him, the answer just becomes how desperate are those teams for a goaltender and how much does Vancouver ask in return? They'd have to resign Schneider obviously, who I'm guessing would command $3-3.5. They'd have about $3 million to play with then to get in return (assuming the cap doesn't go up or down with the new CBA)...who knows. It'll be a mess, but I think Luongo is done there, yes.

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I believe the Erskine move is more of method to correct faults in defense in game 3, as opposed to "chasing Lucic." That said, if Lucic wants to continue to be a goon, Erskine is not one to step down.

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I think another question - albeit a crazy one - that also needs to be considered is: If the Canucks CAN'T move Luongo because of his contract, do they attempt to move Schneider for a good return? You have to imagine a team like Tampa would be licking their chops for someone like him.

That being said, if I'm the Canucks I would definitely want Luongo over Schneider at this point. But all sides need to be considered.

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The problem is his NTC. Would he go to Edmonton or Winnipeg? Florida he might go back to. A better situation there than when he left. Plus he could really take that team to the next level. Cup? No I don't think so not with the team that's there but he could make them a playoff team on a regular basis. Not just cause they are in a crappy division.

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Lucic was far from a goon last game. But if Caps fans want to believe what their moron of a head coach and local media say more power to them. And I'm not sure putting in a guy that played 26 regular season games and was a healthy scratch for quite a few games is really a move to sure up the defense.

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I think they would move Schneider. There's no chance they retain both after this postseason. They don't really have much cap space, and can't afford to waste about $9-$10 million on 2 goaltenders. He's a RFA, so he'll sign something somewhere that gets him paid. The Canucks would be stupid to not trade his negotiating rights somewhere. If they wait, all that's going to happen is they get presented an offer sheet that they can't match.

Personally, I think he'd welcome being traded somewhere that he isn't under such a fine microscope. Florida seems like a likely destination. How about the Devils? Strange thought, but Brodeur's contract is finally up. I know they have a lot of priorities other than that (*cough* Parise *cough*), but they only have $22 million committed to next season (granted they don't really have anything close to a team either but, whatever :lol )

I think they more likely scenario is keeping Luongo and trading Schneider's negotiating rights for a draft pick considering Luongo's NTC and cap hit/contract length, but now that Schneider is getting starts in the playoffs (and won a game), who knows.

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They will find a way....no doubt in my mind.