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Chumlee67 11-29-2017 08:02 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
I'm shocked the first Bruins goal got overturned tonight, especially given how any contact with the goaler, no matter the circumstance, seems to result in no goal

Lcsulla 11-29-2017 09:06 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chumlee67 (Post 16945120)
I'm shocked the first Bruins goal got overturned tonight, especially given how any contact with the goaler, no matter the circumstance, seems to result in no goal
It is such a subjective call, even when the refs watch it on replay that I doubt a person in here would not say that call (or non call if applicable) drives them insane!

hailtopitt 11-30-2017 12:09 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16945003)
Not sure anyone would argue they are the smartest bunch of fans on the planet by any means! Heck, on one play Keith made a pass over the center red line that Sharpe could not get stick to and he tried to use his skate to tip it into his stick and those boneheads were whining about not having icing called!


Preds fans are unbearable

swordo84 11-30-2017 07:41 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Rivalry night with the Mrs. tonight. :thumbsup

Roose13 11-30-2017 08:40 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
I love the Preds fans so much. I hope they're attracting newer fans to the sport.

Chumlee67 11-30-2017 08:49 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16945162)
It is such a subjective call, even when the refs watch it on replay that I doubt a person in here would not say that call (or non call if applicable) drives them insane!
It's just crazy, its equivalent to what is and isn't a catch in football. I'm not sure there's a way to correct it either!

~Crashintome89~ 11-30-2017 09:35 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Preds fans are great.

Pens fans are trash.

kev87lads 11-30-2017 11:12 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
The #NJDevils have acquired defenseman Sami Vatanen and a conditional third-round pick from Anaheim. New Jersey sends forwards Adam Henrique, Joseph Blandisi and a 2018 third-round pick to the Ducks.

Take note Flyers. You ARE allowed to do something. Anything.............

lockman21 11-30-2017 11:13 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 16945536)
The #NJDevils have acquired defenseman Sami Vatanen and a conditional third-round pick from Anaheim. New Jersey sends forwards Adam Henrique, Joseph Blandisi and a 2018 third-round pick to the Ducks.

Take note Flyers. You ARE allowed to do something. Anything.............
Uh, interesting. Vatanen has been in trade talks for what feels like a decade.

Brohan_Santana 11-30-2017 11:29 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16945398)
Preds fans are great.

Penns fans are trash.
fixeddddd

TheLastPig 11-30-2017 11:30 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
https://twitter.com/MulchesOdyssey/s...74936346267651

fonzz41 11-30-2017 11:38 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 16945536)
The #NJDevils have acquired defenseman Sami Vatanen and a conditional third-round pick from Anaheim. New Jersey sends forwards Adam Henrique, Joseph Blandisi and a 2018 third-round pick to the Ducks.

Take note Flyers. You ARE allowed to do something. Anything.............
Good trade. NJ really needed to address their defense, and the Ducks pick up a versatile young piece in Henrique, which they're needing as Getzlaf, Perry, and Kesler get older.

Lcsulla 11-30-2017 12:29 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16945253)
Preds fans are unbearable
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 16945319)
I love the Preds fans so much. I hope they're attracting newer fans to the sport.
Their passion is great and I am all for attracting new fans but I wish they'd put in a little effort to learn the game. I know many people do not grow up playing or watching hockey but when it finally hits you how enjoyable it is to watch I wish they'd spend a bit more time understanding the game because sometimes they just come off like a friend of mine who thinks every time one of his QB's passes is batted away it should be pass interference or any time one of his players slides they are always safe.

Lcsulla 11-30-2017 01:08 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Take a peek at this video, I know Kane's retaliatory slash was dumb but why was he fined and Richie was not considering it was Richie who initially slashed Kane leading to the retaliation? Why not fine both?

http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bla...pped-5000-fine

Chumlee67 11-30-2017 01:13 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16945677)
Take a peek at this video, I know Kane's retaliatory slash was dumb but why was he fined and Richie was not considering it was Richie who initially slashed Kane leading to the retaliation? Why not fine both?

http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bla...pped-5000-fine
I think the difference is Kane responded with a two handed baseball swing. Both are slashes and should have resulted in minors but Richie's slash happens in every game, while Kane's doesn't.

swordo84 11-30-2017 01:15 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Cam Talbot out a minimum of two weeks, and likely longer with 'UBI'. Thus closing the door on an glimmer of playoff hope that was left.

lockman21 11-30-2017 01:50 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16945677)
Take a peek at this video, I know Kane's retaliatory slash was dumb but why was he fined and Richie was not considering it was Richie who initially slashed Kane leading to the retaliation? Why not fine both?

http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bla...pped-5000-fine
Because Richie's was, at worst, a 2-minute minor. Kane retaliated and took a full-on two-handed baseball swing. They're really not the same degree of slash at all.

hailtopitt 11-30-2017 02:26 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16945641)
Their passion is great and I am all for attracting new fans but I wish they'd put in a little effort to learn the game. I know many people do not grow up playing or watching hockey but when it finally hits you how enjoyable it is to watch I wish they'd spend a bit more time understanding the game because sometimes they just come off like a friend of mine who thinks every time one of his QB's passes is batted away it should be pass interference or any time one of his players slides they are always safe.


Yea, that’s what real fans do...learn the game.

They’re in love with themselves and haven’t won anything, which is the worst combination ever. Pretty sure the Golden Knights already have a more knowledgeable fan base compared to Nashville.

TheLastPig 11-30-2017 02:28 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16945780)
Yea, that’s what real fans do...learn the game.

They’re in love with themselves and haven’t won anything, which is the worst combination ever. Pretty sure the Golden Knights already have a more knowledgeable fan base compared to Nashville.


Nashville fans go for the party and are enthusiastic... so kinda like a DMB show.

jrkarger 11-30-2017 02:29 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16945398)
Preds fans are great.

Pens fans are trash.
This is rich!

:lol :lol :lol

hailtopitt 11-30-2017 02:33 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16945786)
Nashville fans go for the party and are enthusiastic... so kinda like a DMB show.

Only difference is that DMB is capable of performing on a big stage

TheLastPig 11-30-2017 02:35 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16945797)
Only difference is that DMB is capable of performing on a big stage
:eiffeltower

bradshaw06 11-30-2017 02:36 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16945398)
Preds fans are great.

Pens fans are trash.
I am a pens fan. Are you saying i am trash :rattle ??

dmbetc 11-30-2017 02:36 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16945677)
Take a peek at this video, I know Kane's retaliatory slash was dumb but why was he fined and Richie was not considering it was Richie who initially slashed Kane leading to the retaliation? Why not fine both?

http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bla...pped-5000-fine
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chumlee67 (Post 16945686)
I think the difference is Kane responded with a two handed baseball swing. Both are slashes and should have resulted in minors but Richie's slash happens in every game, while Kane's doesn't.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16945725)
Because Richie's was, at worst, a 2-minute minor. Kane retaliated and took a full-on two-handed baseball swing. They're really not the same degree of slash at all.
Oy Jamie, your bias is shining through. Just because someone initiates something doesn't mean they are responsible for what the other party does.

Lcsulla 11-30-2017 02:36 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16945725)
Because Richie's was, at worst, a 2-minute minor. Kane retaliated and took a full-on two-handed baseball swing. They're really not the same degree of slash at all.
Well, in fairnes to Kane I think most of us would react the same way. Someone smacks me with a stick and I am going to do the same damn thing - it is simply sticking up for yourself like a pitcher beaning someone after one of his guys got drilled.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16945780)
Yea, that’s what real fans do...learn the game.

They’re in love with themselves and haven’t won anything, which is the worst combination ever. Pretty sure the Golden Knights already have a more knowledgeable fan base compared to Nashville.
Completely agree.

dmbetc 11-30-2017 02:39 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16945804)
Well, in fairnes to Kane I think most of us would react the same way. Someone smacks me with a stick and I am going to do the same damn thing - it is simply sticking up for yourself like a pitcher beaning someone after one of his guys got drilled.
So, should every guy who slashes someone in a game get a fine? Or only if the person they slash does something worse?

Lcsulla 11-30-2017 02:39 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16945803)
Oy Jamie, your bias is shining through. Just because someone initiates something doesn't mean they are responsible for what the other party does.
Perhaps but while I very rarely took penalties if someone smacked me I would do the same to them. It is a contact sport so retaliation happens. Yeah, Kane probably should have just skated to the bench and let someone else (maybe Bouma or Hayden) flatten Ritchie with a vicious check but I can understand 100% why Kane would be pissed off enough to do that.

Lcsulla 11-30-2017 02:42 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16945808)
So, should every guy who slashes someone in a game get a fine? Or only if the person they slash does something worse?
No, but both of those were both intentional and obvious, hence why I asked why one guy got a fine while the instigator did not. That said 5k hardly makes a dent in Kane's account so I doubt he even cares, if the NHL wanted to make a point a suspension would have been more appropriate so I think the NHL gets why Kane did it as well.

dmbetc 11-30-2017 02:46 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
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Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16945814)
No, but both of those were both intentional and obvious, hence why I asked why one guy got a fine while the instigator did not. That said 5k hardly makes a dent in Kane's account so I doubt he even cares, if the NHL wanted to make a point a suspension would have been more appropriate so I think the NHL gets why Kane did it as well.
If you're not seeing the difference between the two slashes then I don't know what to tell you.

Lcsulla 11-30-2017 02:48 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16945820)
If you're not seeing the difference between the two slashes then I don't know what to tell you.
Of course I can see the difference Sarah, I am not blind! :lol

That said Ritchie's looked intentional as well though not baseball style.

I am not defending Kane's slash, I am only telling you that having played for years I can understand why he reacted like that.


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