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fonzz41
08-18-2015 11:44 AM
Re: The NHL Thread
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Originally Posted by lockman21
(Post 16104858)
He should be very, very good. I always loved the kid, and was a huge defender of his when some people in this thread...without mentioning any names...talked about what a huge liability he was defensively.
I was one of those that talked about what a huge liability he was defensively because, well, at the time he was.
BUT, I've also said on numerous occasions that it takes quite a while for a defenseman to adjust to the NHL game. Look no further than Victor Hedman. I agree with you both that Leddy had a much better year this year (I think the added responsibility may have actually helped, along with the experience) and there's no reason to think he won't continue to progress. Very happy for him and I agree that the trade was a win-win for NYI and CHI.
TMoore4075
08-19-2015 12:37 PM
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I'll say it again, with the rumors out there, no ads on the jerseys. I'll never buy one. I understand there is money there but that would be so ugly. Can't imagine the Blackhawks logo or Wings logo with a comcast or Motorola logo next to it.
TMoore4075
08-19-2015 01:25 PM
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Also, just bought my first tickets for the season. November 25th vs the Bruins cause Thanksgiving Eve has sorta become a tradition for me and my dad. I think this will be our 5th game on that night. Also got tickets for my birthday vs the Jets. First time in a while they've been at home on my bday so that's pretty awesome.
~Crashintome89~
08-19-2015 02:21 PM
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I think ads on jerseys will be either very gradual or just won't happen.
I don't mind the stripes. They're okay and kinda cool on some of the concept jerseys. But actual ads can go fly a kite.
Lcsulla
08-19-2015 03:31 PM
Re: The NHL Thread
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075
(Post 16106628)
I'll say it again, with the rumors out there, no ads on the jerseys. I'll never buy one. I understand there is money there but that would be so ugly. Can't imagine the Blackhawks logo or Wings logo with a comcast or Motorola logo next to it.
Agreed, to hell with that idea. If it does indeed happen I will simply to to eBay or amazon and get an old school jersey and customize it as I wish.
lockman21
08-19-2015 03:38 PM
Re: The NHL Thread
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075
(Post 16106628)
I'll say it again, with the rumors out there, no ads on the jerseys. I'll never buy one. I understand there is money there but that would be so ugly. Can't imagine the Blackhawks logo or Wings logo with a comcast or Motorola logo next to it.
I mean, the main issue here is that most of the leagues where there are ads there on jerseys don't have commercials like American sports do. It's used to supplement that loss of potential ad revenue. Having both is just ridiculous.
Roose13
08-19-2015 04:24 PM
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If they do put ads on, the jerseys fans can buy should not have them on, or at least have an option to buy without ads. I think it's dumb soccer jerseys are sold with ads on them. I laugh when I see female Philadelphia Union fans where a jersey with BIMBO (Spanish food company pronounce "beem-bo") on the front.
lockman21
08-19-2015 05:50 PM
Re: The NHL Thread
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Originally Posted by Roose13
(Post 16107047)
If they do put ads on, the jerseys fans can buy should not have them on, or at least have an option to buy without ads. I think it's dumb soccer jerseys are sold with ads on them. I laugh when I see female Philadelphia Union fans where a jersey with BIMBO (Spanish food company pronounce "beem-bo") on the front.
So Brooks Laich is now officially engaged to his celebrity girlfriend. Although I really have no idea who this woman is.
After a quick skim of her Wiki page, seems she's mostly famous for winning Dancing with the Stars twice, previously dating Ryan Seacrest, and wearing blackface to a Halloween party. Neat. It's funny, I read an article called something like "Who IS Julianne Hough's hockey star fiancé?" And I was like, who the fuck is Julianne Hough.
File this under "posts that have nothing to do with hockey".
barbogast
08-20-2015 08:06 AM
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Also, fuck jersey ads. There's no way they'll turn NHL sweaters into NASCAR cars.
fonzz41
08-20-2015 12:25 PM
Re: The NHL Thread
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Originally Posted by barbogast
(Post 16107503)
So Brooks Laich is now officially engaged to his celebrity girlfriend. Although I really have no idea who this woman is.
After a quick skim of her Wiki page, seems she's mostly famous for winning Dancing with the Stars twice, previously dating Ryan Seacrest, and wearing blackface to a Halloween party. Neat. It's funny, I read an article called something like "Who IS Julianne Hough's hockey star fiancé?" And I was like, who the fuck is Julianne Hough.
File this under "posts that have nothing to do with hockey".
over/under on how long until Laich is a contestant on Dancing With the Stars?
kev87lads
08-20-2015 04:15 PM
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Definitely wearing on me that it's the off-season when I get excited (and thinking about going) about the following....
The Philadelphia Flyers announced today that the Friday, September 25 Flyers vs. New York Islanders pre-season game at the Wells Fargo Center will now begin at 6 p.m. The change in time is to accommodate the City of Philadelphia’s preparations for the Pope’s visit and to make it easier for fans to navigate travel restrictions.
In addition, all fans in attendance at the September 25 game will enjoy free hot dogs, pretzels, and soft drinks, as well as 50% off all Flyers merchandise at the Fan Zone.
salrx95
08-21-2015 08:30 AM
Re: The NHL Thread
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Originally Posted by kev87lads
(Post 16108522)
Definitely wearing on me that it's the off-season when I get excited (and thinking about going) about the following....
The Philadelphia Flyers announced today that the Friday, September 25 Flyers vs. New York Islanders pre-season game at the Wells Fargo Center will now begin at 6 p.m. The change in time is to accommodate the City of Philadelphia’s preparations for the Pope’s visit and to make it easier for fans to navigate travel restrictions.
In addition, all fans in attendance at the September 25 game will enjoy free hot dogs, pretzels, and soft drinks, as well as 50% off all Flyers merchandise at the Fan Zone.
Maybe the Pope can bless the team while there. You could probably use it. :D
So NHL is having some great offseason press. Sydor driving drunk with blood-alcohol level of .30 with his 12 year old son in the car.
UCFish
08-21-2015 05:08 PM
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That is REALLY Drunk
TMoore4075
08-21-2015 08:01 PM
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I prolly couldn't even stand up, how the hell was he able to drive?
space_raven
08-21-2015 10:53 PM
Re: The NHL Thread
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075
(Post 16109519)
So NHL is having some great offseason press. Sydor driving drunk with blood-alcohol level of .30 with his 12 year old son in the car.
Takes A LOT of Zimas to blow a .30.
BotheLaneFan
08-21-2015 11:50 PM
Re: The NHL Thread
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075
(Post 16109994)
I prolly couldn't even stand up, how the hell was he able to drive?
Because he's not a total pussy?
~Crashintome89~
08-22-2015 01:58 AM
Re: The NHL Thread
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075
(Post 16109994)
I prolly couldn't even stand up, how the hell was he able to drive?
probably an alcoholic, obviously.
TMoore4075
08-22-2015 09:08 AM
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In non-crime committing NHL news, Quebec and Vegas both move on to the final phase of the expansion process.
barbogast
08-22-2015 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by space_raven
(Post 16110075)
Takes A LOT of Zimas to blow a .30.
Best post in here in a while
JRS1386
08-22-2015 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by fonzz41
(Post 16103921)
People just need to accept the truth of this.
Fun story: One time during the offseason he was rehabbing a shoulder injury so my dad and I invited him to come out and play a few games in our beer league just to get moving again. He came, and was like, "Matt, we're gonna get you a few goals tonight. Anytime I've got the puck, just go to the net with your stick on the ice and I'll take care of the rest." I scored like 6 goals that night, but actually didn't. He would just BANK PUCKS IN OFF MY STICK. It didn't matter where he or I was on the ice - he would just make it happen.
It's amazing the skill level of even someone who was "just" a career minor leaguer.
Edit: damnit
Impressive to have a goal per wife average
fonzz41
08-23-2015 10:05 AM
Re: The NHL Thread
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Originally Posted by JRS1386
(Post 16110210)
Impressive to have a goal per wife average
I've got to make sure they all feel equally loved.
Plus, they all looked so sexy up there in the stands in their matching hair bonnets.
In other news, this Quebec news is still kinda bumming me out. I like wearing Nords gear and still being identified as an Avs fan. <tear rolls down cheek>
Bron Yr Aur
08-23-2015 11:17 AM
Re: The NHL Thread
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075
(Post 16109519)
So NHL is having some great offseason press. Sydor driving drunk with blood-alcohol level of .30 with his 12 year old son in the car.
But but I thought NHLers were all just "good guys" who just "work hard" and aren't like those "thugs" in the NFL :rolleyes
TMoore4075
08-23-2015 01:27 PM
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Ehrhoff signs with the Kings for 1 year and 1.5mil. Skipping out on multi-year deals to sign for one years with the Pens sorta backfired huh?
It may not seem like it sometimes, but every NHL team has a long-term plan. Even the teams that appear to be stuck in neutral or that run into the ground have a team vision which looks really good on paper and should work. The most challenging aspect of team building is actually seeing that vision through during the difficult times, when the pressure starts to seep in from external sources.
“The hardest part is execution,” Los Angeles Kings GM Dean Lombardi told ESPN.com on Wednesday. “The hardest part of execution is patience. The inability to show patience can come from yourself, it can come from the owner, it can come from fans, it can come from the media. You have to have that conviction to stay with it. That’s not easy.”
During some of the most difficult times in the early days of building the Kings, Lombardi had assistant GM Ron Hextall to help keep the vision intact.
“When we sat down from the first day, we knew what we wanted to do. We were always able to stay within the parameters of that plan. Some things worked, some things didn’t. We’re human. Whenever I got frustrated, he was there to say, ‘We have to be patient,’ and vice versa,” Lombardi said. “We kind of fed off each other.”
The result was a Kings team that is now one of the league’s powers, and in the process, Hextall has reaffirmed his convictions about how to correctly build a successful team.
The Philadelphia Flyers are now the beneficiaries.
Lombardi sees what Hextall has done in a short period of time as general manager in Philadelphia and isn’t surprised. Hextall had the blueprint, the smarts, the work ethic, the respect and the credibility to pull it off.
In the past year, Hextall has accomplished two of the most difficult tasks a GM has to tackle while building a winner: clearing cap space during a time in which cap space is at an absolute premium, and stocking the system with prospects during a time in which teams have started to hoard draft picks.
“Both take patience,” Lombardi said. “They’re both critical.”
On Thursday, ESPN Insider prospect guru Corey Pronman released his ranking of the top prospects in the Flyers' organization, and for the first time in a long time, it’s crowded at the top.
The consensus is that the Flyers' pipeline strength is on defense, but Pronman’s rankings suggest Hextall has been able to build more balance into the system than people realize, in part because of a forward like Oskar Lindblom. For the Flyers' rebuild to be successful, Hextall and his staff can’t just hit on first-round picks. They need a few steals outside the top 30 to succeed, as well.
Lindblom is the best candidate.
He slipped to the fifth round of the 2014 draft and then blossomed last season, turning heads with a strong performance in the IIHF World Junior Championships, registering nine points in seven games.
Concerns about his skating started to disappear.
“His skating took a step forward,” Hextall said during a phone conversation last week. “That’s huge. He’s not the most fleet of foot guy -- if you look at him now compared to a year ago, it’s, ‘Wow, how far has he come. He’s come a long way.’ Oskar is smart, he’s got good size, he has good hands, he sees the ice well. He’s a well-rounded player.”
The Flyers wanted Travis Konecny badly enough to trade up to pick No. 24 to get him. Vaughn Ridley/Getty Images)
The Flyers also added balance in their organization by trading up to grab forward Travis Konecny in the first round of June’s draft. Konecny immediately became Philadelphia’s top prospect, according to Pronman.
As strategies go, teams shouldn't trade up at that point in the draft too often (Konecny was selected No. 24 overall). Those trades are historically won by the team trading down, simply because of the ability to add more draft picks at a time in the draft where there’s not too much variance in the likelihood that you’re selecting a future NHL player. It’s better to have more picks than to trade up for one specific player.
Normally, Hextall would agree with that theory.
“If you said to me, ‘What do I prefer to do?’ -- I prefer to have more bullets,” Hextall said. "Philosophically, I think a lot of people are on the same page. We weren’t going to make that deal unless Travis was sitting there. We wanted him that bad.”
If they didn’t get him, the Flyers were exploring trading down out of the No. 29 spot.
That’s how much they like Konecny.
The other key for the Flyers will be how Hextall manages the influx of young defensemen coming into the system.
Philadelphia took Ivan Provorov with the No. 7 overall pick in the draft, to join a pipeline that already has Travis Sanheim, Sam Morin, Robert Hagg and Shayne Gostisbehere on defense.
It’s great to have good young defensemen, but championship teams don’t typically win with an inexperienced blue line. The ideal mix is youth up front and experience on the back end. The challenge for Hextall and his staff will be to slowly work these young defensemen into the NHL so they’re not all arriving at the same time.
It goes back to having a plan and sticking to that plan.
“We’ve got to be cognizant of not putting our young defensemen in too early. We have to be cognizant of not waiting too long, there will be too much overlap. We’re going to keep a close eye on all our young defensemen,” Hextall said. “They’ll start filtering in at some point this year.”
When he took over as GM, Hextall said he got full buy-in to his patient approach from owner Ed Snider. He said team president Paul Holmgren is completely on board with the change in direction with the Flyers. And Hextall credited Holmgren with building a team that has more talent at the NHL level than the Kings did during the building of a championship franchise in Los Angeles.
When the young Flyers arrive, they’ll be joining a roster that has cornerstones Claude Giroux, Sean Couturier, Jakub Voracek and Wayne Simmonds.
There are still bad contracts on the books, and player development is just as important as drafting, so converting these talented draft picks into NHL players is the next step. But Hextall's approach is already paying off, fast enough that he believes fans in Philly won’t have to wait too long for the results on the ice.
“Quite frankly, I think we got better. Michal Neuvirth is going to help us. Evgeni Medvedev is an upgrade. Sam Gagner is the type of player we needed, and were going to look forward to getting in free agency,” Hextall said. “We expect to be a playoff team.”
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