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Semin probably won't get a contract until training camp. He'll get a tryout somewhere. Francis really screwed him by saying he had no work ethic.

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Semin screwed himself by having no work ethic.

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Semin needs a place with strong structure, a strong coach and a strong leadership. He's got more talent than most of the guys in the league but just doesn't use it. While I didn't want him because he's too much of a risk, Detroit might have been a great place for him, but they wanted nothing to do with him.

Ehrhoff will probably be a tryout too. Franson though I thought he would have had a deal by now.

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Too many years for Kesler, imo. The Ducks will regret his deal in years 5 and 6 and maybe even 4.

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Yep. Especially since it doesn't kick in for a year. He'll be 38 when it's over...I don't get it. I mean don't they have some RFA's coming along soon? Still happy I'm a Wings fan. They got Green for only 3 years (sure it's 6mil but only 3 years) also got Richards for a year to add depth plus Nyquist for under $5mil for 4 more years. They've made mistakes like Weiss (although if he doesn't get hurt that first year it might be different) and Kindl but still in a good position.

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Del Zotto signed to a two year deal. 3.875 Cap hit, not too terrible and only for two years. In 2017 Streit, MDZ, and Schultz will all be UFAs so that will give plenty of room for the young blue liners we got waiting in the wings.

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No worries, Keith, Seabrook can just play every minute of every game on the back line and get quick breathers here and there if TVR comes along as expected. :lol

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Hawks have $750k in bonus overages to go against the cap this year......not helping

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Wings signing of Richards should pay off early in the season for sure. Sounds like Pavel will miss the first part of the season. Hope no one else does.

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Oh. Hey guys. And girl.

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Wore an Original 6 shirt in Hockey Town on Friday. It was a religious experience

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Yeah I saw you were here. What were you doing in town?

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:: waves ::

off season sucks

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Seriously does.

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All day Sunday, the NHL network showed each of the Islander's cup winning games back to back. You guys should have taped them so you would have something to watch when you need you hockey fix. I DVR'd them.

Arguably the greatest dynasty ever in hockey and owner of one of hockey's most unbreakable records....19 straight playoff series victories. Someone needs to win 5 cups in a row to break the record. It's not happening.

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I've tivo-ed some stuff. Fedorov's 5 goal game against the Caps is coming up soon. A suggestion the other day were games 6 and 7 of the 93 Campbell Conference Final. That was a great series. Game 7 is why Wayne was The Great One.

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I'm going to go watch all the post season highlights of the Flyers from my lifetime, be back in 5-10 minutes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMiLxhfCfZM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je_o7hKlHkw (One of the biggest reasons I believe that no other athletes can stand up to hockey players)

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Enjoyed your playoff highlights?

To this day, Darcy Tucker remains at or near the top of my most hated non-Rangers list of all time for his on Peca in the 2002 playoffs, shredding his knee and likely costing us that series. Peca was never the same player.

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im going to watch all the posteason highliights of the Jackets from my lifetime.

edit: and i'm back, didn't even get a time stamp.

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I hate the Maple Leafs because of Domi and Tucker. Mainly Tucker. Fuck that guy.

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Yeah, never paid attention to the Leafs until that 2002 playoffs series, where I grew to hate those dirty cheap fuckers like Tucker, Roberts, Corson, etc. Roberts took Kenny Jonsson out of that series with a dirty unpenalized hit from behind.

We should have won that series, dammit. Game 6 in our building was one of the loudest you could ever hear a building for a round 1 series.

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Caps and Holtby are $3million apart heading into arbitration

:rolleyes

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When is his date?

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Thursday

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Good luck with that.

Wings down to one RFA as Pulkkinen signs for one year at $735k.

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Just saw Quebec City was the only expansion applicant besides Vegas. Gonna be amazing to have the Nordiques back in the league. Hopefully anyway.

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I don't know how I feel about 32 teams in the NHL. I don't want to see talent watered down.

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I don't know how I feel about this. I always sport Nords gear (especially hats) because of the throwback reference to the Avs. If the actual Nords came back, that wouldn't be as cool. :snot

PS - Hi guys. Miss you and love you.

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League could still say no to Quebec. 17/15 is bad especially for Quebec in the West. Relocation still makes most sense for Quebec.

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Agreed. That's one of several reasons why I'm not really a fan of expansion.

Yeah I guess if I were an Avs fan it would kind of suck

Would be pretty shitty of them to say no after the league made this grand formal expansion process complete with outrageous demands and 16 various cities being invited. Seems to me like the NHL overestimated their charm and scared possible suitors away. Now that they've only got two applications, it's gonna look and feel really shitty if they deny QC because it's not a "preferred" expansion location.

I agree, Quebec makes most sense as a relocation instead of an expansion, but it's not QC's fault the NHL came up with ridiculous qualifications and application fees and then no one ended up biting. I also agree that 17/15 isn't what the league wants at all, but again, that's not QC's fault

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My girlfriend is originally from outside of Flint and a friend from back home had her wedding reception Saturday. So on Friday we went to a Tigers game (she's a huge fan). Pretty awesome state. Went to Frankenmuth on Sunday. Their beer is awesome and Bronner's is a sweet Christmas store.

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Burnside and Custance have a good "conversation" here:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/i...ansion-process

The NHL can do what it wants. They never said they would expand, or if they did, by how many teams. We're already lopsided so will adding only Vegas in the short term change that? No. A lot of people have said Quebec is the safe landing spot if a team needs to move. Plus adding them, like I said, puts 17 in the East which won't work and if we're to believe Bettman, Detroit and Columbus aren't going anywhere. We'll see and will know soon enough. But I won't be surprised if they do Vegas and wait on #32.
Haven't been to a Tigers game or Frankenmuth in years. Need to do both. Since the Tigers seem to be imploding, tickets in September might be cheap and easy to get (like Matty), so thinking about taking the little man to his first baseball game.

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I just think it would be really shitty of the league to deny a perfectly good bid that meets all their obnoxious criteria. Again, QC did what the league demanded. The only other one to do so was Vegas. Apparently 14 other cities deemed their criteria not worth meeting. Adding Vegas but not Quebec would be a real dick move in my opinion. I know this isn't what the NHL wanted, but again, that's not QC's fault. They really wanted to add in Seattle or Portland first? Maybe they should've softened their criteria a bit so more cities would want to participate. Now, they either have to add QC which doesn't fix the alignment problem + takes away a pretty great relocation option, or they can deny QC and look like assholes. I know they don't have to add anyone if they don't want to, and they've been clear about that the whole time, but I can't help but think it's gonna be a bad look for the league to turn down Quebec.

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On the ESPN article they make a point that if Seattle or whatever that suburb is called, somehow gets their shit together, do they change the rules and let them apply? And I dunno if they look like assholes, cause they can argue they are worried about the Canadian Dollar, which is a legit concern for the small Canadian markets. The rules didn't stop Seattle from applying, the NBA-First shit with the arena hurt that. You aren't getting an NBA team right now, get over it. IF the NHL let QC in, I wonder if they end up in the Central. That wouldn't be ideal, and would suck in a way that they aren't in the same division as the Habs but that's where we're at.

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So since don't have a lot to talk about (other than expansion), this Wings fan posts all kinds of compilation videos and he did one for the Hawks/Wings 2009 series.

https://youtu.be/LkT9sa1pIvA

Anyone who says experience doesn't mean anything, needs to watch this. Guys like Seabrook and Keith make a shit ton of mistakes that they would never (especially Keith) these days. Turning the puck over behind their net, while totally missing the Wings player near them, bad positions, etc.

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This makes sense regardless of context

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Key Arena is a shit hole, though a prime downtown locale
Really sucks about Seattle's arena issue
Seahawks and Mariners play literally adjacent to one another, probably 15-20 min outside of Seattle

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and they both have incredible facilities.

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This is not a lie.
Yeah, I agree. It's like that old episode of The Office where Michael Scott is trying to recruit people from the office to play on his basketball team against the warehouse guys, then ends up turning down volunteers like Phyllis, Kevin, and Oscar (who they later show being fairly good). Sure the NHL can pick who it wants, but yeah, it does look shitty when a city completely meets criteria and they still turn them down. Especially when there's no other options and only two that met the criteria in the first place, which cracks me up. :lol

I get that expansion is happening, whether I like it or not, but this is getting comical already.
You can go straight to hell and suck Claude Lemieux's dick while you're there.

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which is weird for a team that been good at baseball since the johnson/rodriguez/griffey era.

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Safeco and Century Link are just south of downtown in Seattle. 5 minutes. Not outside the city. Just a clarification.

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And the proposed arena by Hansen was supposed to be roughly the same area right? BUT couldn't work it out to change the memorandum of understanding to allow for the NHL to be first...so stupid. It would be almost guaranteed that the NHL would grant them an expansion team too. Surprised Portland didn't get in on it but also wonder if they figured Seattle would and didn't want to give up the money if Seattle was in on it.

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http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...peak-with-nhl/

The NHL wants Seattle....bad. Which still brings the question I asked a while ago, division alignment? Prohockey also put out an idea of 8 divisions. They use Quebec and Vegas as the two teams however and have CBJ going back West. Cause you can't have Vegas and Seattle both in the Pacific and Vegas in the Central makes 0 sense too.

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Sorry, whenever I do times I instinctively think walking times. that totally looks bad in what i wrote here, whoops :lol

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If Phoenix stays, no reason Seattle can't be in the West and LAS in the Central. If Phoenix relocates to LAS then it's moot.

Edmonton and Calgary are both, technically, almost even vertically

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I think no matter what we'll still have uneven conferences. Moving anyone back West is dumb and I don't think they'll do it. Problem is with 17/15 there's no way to have even divisions, meaning one division per conference gets fucked with regards to playoff berths.

This whole expansion process has been a comedy of errors. The NHL can't get anything right.

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I thought of you guys when I saw this:

http://imgur.com/uAUXis3

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I'd bet Matty's life that they won't be uneven. Detroit, Columbus or Quebec will probably be in the Central if it is indeed Vegas and Quebec. My guess is Quebec cause they'd be new and we know the fans wouldn't bitch about having a team for the first time in 20 years. If the Tukwila guy (had to look up that spelling) can show he's pretty close to getting things together, the point is moot. They want Seattle and want QC to be the safety net for whoever might need to move. The NHL can change the rules all they want, it's their game and they need to look out for their best interests.

I don't have too much problem with how the NHL handled it. They wanted people who were serious. They've had way too many bad owners in the past who didn't know what they were getting into. The second team in TO is great in theory but there is a lot of work that needs to be done with an arena (which Markham said no to) and they had nowhere set up yet and getting the Leafs to ok a 2nd NHL team in their building would be interesting to try and work out. In this process (unlike relocation) they'd have time to build an arena and should have had that worked out. We all knew expansion was coming and we're not plugged into the league or wealthy business people. Milwaukee was another one but with the uncertainty in their arena I'm sure that was tough to get done.

The downtown Seattle plan that didn't happen, that's the city and Hansen's fault. If the MOA isn't NBA-first, I bet they have a bid. Their odds of an NBA team are small now and the NHL clearly wants to be there and now they have nothing and might lose out to a suburb? Are you that stubborn that you'd say no to a professional team that wants you? Even with a deadline and the NHL's interest, they couldn't get it right. Makes you wonder what their leadership is like. You got your two serious bidders and the Seattle group it was their fault not the NHL's.
Sexy.

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http://www.tsn.ca/lamoriello-named-g...leafs-1.335038

Well, holy shit.

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Can't say anyone saw that coming.

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Of course people on Twitter now think Kovalchuk will play for the Leafs now haha

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Not the hockey news I was expecting today. I was just coming to post it.

That is some shocking news.

Get ready for more average veterans signed to the Leafs to compete for that 8th spot like the Devils have been doing the last few years.

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I'm curious as to how this will work out. We know Shanny has final say, so how will that work with Lou? How will Lou and Babs work out? This is why you have a GM when you hire a coach so that that can be addressed during the interview process. If Babs says "no don't do this" or "yes do this" and Lou thinks the opposite, what happens? What does Shanny do?

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Too many chiefs for the Maple Leafs

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I think they have brought him in because Babs and Shanny have nothing but respect for the guy and they also see him as a fantastic mentor to Hunter and Dubas. A lot of chiefs in the village now, but I think that's a part of the point. You want a lot of very strong voices to funnel up to Shannahan to hopefully make the right decisions moving forward.

I don't know how keen LouLam is on a rebuild, so that'll be interesting to see. All in all, it's a pretty strong management group now.

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This is my thought too. That's a lot of dominate personalities

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Yeah, with how deliberate Shanahan has been to this point at dismissing and bringing in guys and making some fairly bold moves, it feels like he has a plan and isn't going to just hand over the reins to Lou and let him do what he wants. I'm sure he's going to keep a close eye on things.

I don't know... I'm willing to withhold judgement on this one until I see some actually moves from Lou. His last few years in NJ weren't great, but he remains a shrewd hockey mind.

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Shrewd is an under utilized word. +87 to you sir.

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Yeah too many egos. I think in some sense it could work or it could implode. Lou has been the man for years, how will he do with a lot of guys in that room?

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I didn't know you were a Crosby sympathizer. You disgust me

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Yeah, what's with the 87, Kev? Username too...

Birth year? I simply refuse to believe it's for Flyers Public Enemy #1.

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It's a valid question. Bottom line is I had #87 before Crosby was even like 10 years old.....

Story goes.... growing up a huge Flyers fan and thus NHL series video game fan, that once we were able to create ourselves in a game, (NHL 95 maybe?) I thought that was awesome. Well I'd always put myself on the LoD line with LeClair and Lindros. Lindros was obviously #88 and I was a huge fan. So I wanted to be a number close to his. Didn't pick #89 because of Mogilny (sp? - The Sabre) being so good at the time with that number. So I dropped it to 87. Always thought it looked like a cool number and stuck with me since. Always worn it on my roller and ice teams.

And thus the user name is my first name (nickname), my hockey number, and part of my last name....

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:thumbsup:thumbsup Very creative of you. I'll take those 87 points then.

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Announced today that 4 Islanders games were moved from 7pm to 7:30. 3 home and 1 away games and all rivalry games. I'm thinking National TV games???

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Yep. For whatever reason, NBCSN games usually start at 7:30.

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So Glendale and the Coyotes agreed on a new deal...for 2 years. Gives them time to work out a better deal....or move right around the time we could have two new teams.

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I think it's closer to the "prime time" hours of 8-10. I'm assuming it looks better "number" wise
I like 7:30 starts, that way I can have dinner and relax for the game. Plus, it offsets from other games I may want to flip to during commercials

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Semin ends up in Montreal for 1 year.

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That'll be interesting. He's got all the talent in the world but just can't get it together. Will be interesting there. Hope they crash and burn personally.

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fuck the east is loaded

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But they will lose in the Stanley Cup to the West.

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and what are the powerball numbers gonna be tomorrow?

So Holtby signs for 30.5 over 5 years. Not sure how I feel about that. He's a guy on the rise but...it's the Caps. They'll screw it up.

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Asst. GM Tom Fitzgerald leaving Penguins to join his good friend and former colleague Ray Shero in Jersey

thats a loss for the Pens, liked Fitzy a lot

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I think the Holtby deal was ok, it's at least reasonable, but I'm also still not 1 million percent sold on the guy. No doubt he just had an elite season. But it was just one.

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Also lol Canadiens. Semin :lol :lol

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1.1mil for a year is not bad. Low risk play right there.

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Oh it's definitely low risk. Not a bad deal. I just flat out do not like the guy.

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So no trade deadline pickup for the Caps?

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Watching the Red Army movie. This is damn good. Wonder how good some of these guys could have been in the NHL for a full career.

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Is it online? Channel? Netflix?

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I got a Chromecast at Christmas time and they continue to keep giving great offers just for owning one. This time I got a free rental so rented it through the Google Play store and watched it. I highly recommend buying one. Can stream to it from a lot of apps on the iphone/ipad too if you don't have android. Can't stream iTunes bought movies to it though. But when I bought it I got a crap ton of google play credit, the first X-Men movie for free and since then I've got a bunch of free rentals too. In monetary value, I've gotten more stuff from them, then the actual cost of the Chromecast.

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Stepan 5 years and 39mil.

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Rumors of the Avs jerseys for the Wings/Avs outdoor game:

http://www.wxyz.com/sports/hockey/re...d-wings-leaked

Cool but...they aren't the Rockies and that's what those look like.

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ew :thumbsdow

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I like 'em. Cool combo of current Avs color with Colorado hockey heritage (which is dismal, but still).

My only hope is an alumni game that only includes players from '95-'99 ish. ;)

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Hard to play like this though:

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/y...-lemieux01.gif

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That's precisely what I'm talking about!

You know, something like those Civil War battle reenactments?

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So Pens send Sutter to the Canucks and then sign Fehr. Interesting...

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I'm intrigued. Don't know enough to be able to fully evaluate the moves. But hopefully that adds some depth.

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Nick Bonino gonna look good in black and gold

love this trade, love the Fehr signing, loving the pens current roster

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Dagnabit - was really hoping the Avs could grab Fehr. He would've been perfect.

Bonino is a good acquisition.

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Pittsburgh Penguins: kings of the 3rd line center trades when everyone knows they can't sign the guy anyway

don't know how they keep doing it

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Gotta get Lappy involved (obviously not in the game itself) because he is awesome

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Yes. Getting Lappy involved in anything and everything is always a good idea.

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My wife begs to differ

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Kinda wish the Caps had attempted to keep Fehr. I like him, he's incredibly solid on a third line

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:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

My wife doesn't... ;)

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Mormons are crazy

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Couts lucked up for 6 years with a 4.33 mil cap hit. Not bad for one of the best defensive forwards in the game