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kev87lads 11-07-2018 10:34 PM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Random observation. How is Zac Rinaldo still in the league?

bradshaw06 11-07-2018 10:36 PM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 17301771)
I guess TJís ok. Very glad to see the Penguins got nothing for their effort. Good.

Canít wait to hear Crosby talk about hits to the head again. He sure had a lot to say about Wilson. Canít wait to hear his thoughts this time.

Wonder if the caps with shrug their shoulders and say the hit was ok and that oshie put himself in a bad spot like they do with so many of tommy wilsons hits.

drakan 11-08-2018 12:21 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 17301767)
The Caps gotta figure this defense thing out. They canít break out of the zone with any consistency or authority at this point. And the excessive odd man rushes against. Itís rerrible to watch.

I think that is the first time I have ever heard a breakout as lacking authority. I like it.

Chumlee67 11-08-2018 06:10 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
What is Malkin supposed to do there? I mean Oshie is skating at him, Oshie is shorter, Malkin doesnít extend an his elbow, he doesnít launch himself into Oshie, doesnít change direction to make contact?

I mean ya it looks bad on the face of it, but when you break it down, itís really not that bad.


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barbogast 11-08-2018 07:09 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Oh dear. Ugh, it’s a clear head shot. First of all. Second of all TJ is the defending player and is not eligible at all to be checked there. Third of all it didn’t really look like TJ was going to try and hit Malkin, but instead skate behind him and go after the puck. It’s at that moment Malkin decides to lean in with the shoulder, making direct contact with the side of the head, delivering an illegal check to an ineligible player. So yeah. Not sure why we’re defending this one suddenly.

barbogast 11-08-2018 07:13 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 17301781)
Wonder if the caps with shrug their shoulders and say the hit was ok and that oshie put himself in a bad spot like they do with so many of tommy wilsons hits.

Crosbyís the one who chimed in when Wilson threw a hit that didnít happen in a game that involved Crosby. Iím just curious if heíll feel as compelled to offer his thoughts this time.

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Originally Posted by drakan (Post 17301808)
I think that is the first time I have ever heard a breakout as lacking authority. I like it.

Iím glad you like it. And itís true. Aside from the illegal check that Malkin threw, there was an actual hockey game played. And the Caps didnít look very good in it. Theyíre very hesitant and make many questionable decisions with the puck in their own end. That leads to high danger chance after high danger chance. They gotta curtail that. Holtby is the reason the Caps didnít lose last night. And honestly, Bradenís not been consistently stellar yet either this year. He was very good last night.

Roose13 11-08-2018 07:51 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
:popcorn waiting for Brohan’s take

aeroshady 11-08-2018 08:32 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
That really was a weird play with Geno and TJ last night. At first look, I didn't see anything in it, but when you slow it down, it is clear that Malkin raised his shoulder/elbow. It also looks like TJ was trying to play the puck. Not sure it is worth a suspension, but it definitely was a lack of judgement by Malkin in the moment. No issues with the way it was called.

bradshaw06 11-08-2018 08:34 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 17301838)
:popcorn waiting for Brohanís take

If theyíre anything like his political takes it should be a hot one.

barbogast 11-08-2018 08:39 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Brohan’s take aside, it’s a bad hit, and Malkin should absolutely be suspended. I’d say 2-3 games sounds right.

bradshaw06 11-08-2018 08:43 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
If i had any money, i’d bet the pens make a trade by december 1st.

aeroshady 11-08-2018 08:44 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 17301858)
If i had any money, iíd bet the pens make a trade by december 1st.

I first read this as "If I had any money, i'd bet the pens trade him by december 1st." :lol

Could you imagine?

Chumlee67 11-08-2018 09:06 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
:lol

Itís not even worth it


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jrkarger 11-08-2018 09:19 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
He should get a game or two.

You are either on the side of getting head shots out of the game or not; regardless of Jersey.

barbogast 11-08-2018 09:41 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jrkarger (Post 17301902)
He should get a game or two.

You are either on the side of getting head shots out of the game or not; regardless of Jersey.

Bingo. Exactly. Ideally the league would start with harsher penalties (see: any of Mattyís posts on this) but thatís not where weíre at, so for Malkin, it should be a couple games.

TheLastPig 11-08-2018 10:27 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Im borderline on whether or not that is worth a game. He definitely took a shot but I have a hard time buying he was intentionally trying to hit his head, it was such a weird angle Oshie came in and Malkin is so much taller... plus he was controlling the puck at the time.

Maybe if he had a history I would say yes, but a play like that happens multiple times every game, its just normally is shoulder to shoulder.

Brohan_Santana 11-08-2018 10:29 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 17301838)
:popcorn waiting for Brohanís take



DoPS has given Tom Wilson 5 more games for the illegal head shot to teammate TJ Oshie

Climb2safety 11-08-2018 10:31 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
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Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 17302046)
Im borderline on whether or not that is worth a game. He definitely took a shot but I have a hard time buying he was intentionally trying to hit his head, it was such a weird angle Oshie came in and Malkin is so much taller... plus he was controlling the puck at the time.

Maybe if he had a history I would say yes, but a play like that happens multiple times every game, its just normally is shoulder to shoulder.

He intentionally didnít avoid hitting his head. Same thing.

He looked right at him and planted his shoulder on his chin.

Roose13 11-08-2018 10:33 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
It is a bad hit, and I agree it should be a game or two. Barbs with the good assessment on why.

swordo84 11-08-2018 10:39 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
I'm in the 1-2 games camp for Malkin

Climb2safety 11-08-2018 10:43 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
One thing is a fact. Oshie takes a beating more than any other player in the NHL that I can see.

I respect him and his game completely.

aeroshady 11-08-2018 10:47 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
I don't think it is possible to dislike TJ Oshie, especially if you are American.

TheLastPig 11-08-2018 10:49 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Climb2safety (Post 17302060)
He intentionally didnít avoid hitting his head. Same thing.

He looked right at him and planted his shoulder on his chin.

Hard assess that in a blink of a moment play like that, especially when its the guy holding the puck and the skater is coming at him.

1-2 games at absolute max if they want to use him as an example, im fine with that.

Im just talking more from the POV that the league prob wont look at it that way since hes not a repeat offender.

jrkarger 11-08-2018 10:54 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
I dislike oshie but because he plays for the caps and makes things hard on the Pens; not because he’s a douche. He’s not a douche.

Despite Malkin controlling the puck he leaned in. That’s why I think it should be a game or two. That and I’m in the camp the NHL should do more to get rid of head shots. So if you rage on Wilson’s hits, Porolov (sp?), or Nisky hitting Sid in the playoffs a couple years ago, you should also think Malkin was out of line here too; intentional or not.

swordo84 11-08-2018 10:54 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
No supplemental discipline for Malkin.

jrkarger 11-08-2018 10:55 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Well that’s that I guess.

So much for getting rid of head shots

Roose13 11-08-2018 11:00 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
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Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 17302095)
No supplemental discipline for Malkin.

Really disappointed in that.

Brohan melts in 3...2...1...

bradshaw06 11-08-2018 11:02 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Pens got the league in their pocket.

But honestly, there just isnt consistency.

TheLastPig 11-08-2018 11:02 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jrkarger (Post 17302094)
I dislike oshie but because he plays for the caps and makes things hard on the Pens; not because heís a douche. Heís not a douche.

Despite Malkin controlling the puck he leaned in. Thatís why I think it should be a game or two. That and Iím in the camp the NHL should do more to get rid of head shots. So if you rage on Wilsonís hits, Porolov (sp?), or Nisky hitting Sid in the playoffs a couple years ago, you should also think Malkin was out of line here too; intentional or not.

Yes I personally think they should.

I just think with the game miscounduct that was enough for the league in the way they treat things.

Ive come to accept they are never going to crack down in the manner that would change the way guys play until theyre on their 4th or 5th offense.

Climb2safety 11-08-2018 11:03 AM

Re: The NHL Thread: featuring Gritty, the regular season mascot champ.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aeroshady (Post 17302082)
I don't think it is possible to dislike TJ Oshie, especially if you are American.

Amen

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 17302089)
Hard assess that in a blink of a moment play like that, especially when its the guy holding the puck and the skater is coming at him.

1-2 games at absolute max if they want to use him as an example, im fine with that.

Im just talking more from the POV that the league prob wont look at it that way since hes not a repeat offender.

I wasnít commenting on any suspension talk but just that Iíve come to believe almost everything they do out there is intentional.

I watch my sons games, varsity high school and I ask if the player meant to do that, was it intentionally and he always says yeah. Players know exactly what they are doing, at least for the most part.


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