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Brohan_Santana 04-25-2017 09:04 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16774695)
I hope you hold on your Caps optimism for a long time bud

I think being a Caps fan we've learned to be optimistic but also logical. At least that's how I've dealt with my fandom.

The Caps have always showed so much promise, and as a fan you want to believe in the optimism but also hold on to the reality of their situation.

Barbs i think you're a very logical person but I think your head goes to a dark place when the Caps fail at times. I don't blame you because the Caps have shown multiple times that they have always let us down as fans. But dealing with this team as a fan mentally for the last couple years certainly hasn't been easy.

But I think the way this team has handled the Leafs series (in games 4 & 6, and all the OT's) has given some sort of relief. But then again it's the Caps...

aeroshady 04-25-2017 09:39 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16774786)
For sure. I have thought for the past couple of years all the Caps needed was to get over that mental hump of making to the ECF and they could bring a championship to DC.

I'm not sure if you remember this but the Caps were a goal being called back from Joel Ward in Game 5 against the Rags in 2015 from making it to the ECF.

But to win the Cup the Caps will have to probably stave off the Penns and then beat the Rags in the ECF. Def not an easy task

Oh I remember. It was a great no goal call!:lol

I also remember the Rangers blowing a 3-1 series lead to the Caps...funny how no one ever talks about that now though. Teams are totally different obviously, but that was still a thing that happened. I feel like it got overlooked because the Devils had an even bigger meltdown against the Canes that year.

Climb2safety 04-26-2017 02:02 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16774695)
I hope you hold on your Caps optimism for a long time bud

Forever. They bleed, I bleed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mthawk07 (Post 16774704)
It'd be nice if the Caps could repay the Penguins for one of the four times they've beaten them on the way to winning the Stanley Cup. :BANG

Their road through us is about to be closed down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16774791)
I think being a Caps fan we've learned to be optimistic but also logical. At least that's how I've dealt with my fandom.

The Caps have always showed so much promise, and as a fan you want to believe in the optimism but also hold on to the reality of their situation.

Barbs i think you're a very logical person but I think your head goes to a dark place when the Caps fail at times. I don't blame you because the Caps have shown multiple times that they have always let us down as fans. But dealing with this team as a fan mentally for the last couple years certainly hasn't been easy.

But I think the way this team has handled the Leafs series (in games 4 & 6, and all the OT's) has given some sort of relief. But then again it's the Caps...

It hurts when they lose for sure. And this one if it ends badly will hurt as much of more than any if I'm being honest. I love these guys and want them to succeed probably too much.

Go Caps!!

lockman21 04-26-2017 10:14 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Ottawa v Nashville would be the single most boring SCF of all-time.

TheLastPig 04-26-2017 10:20 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16775038)
Ottawa v Nashville would be the single most boring SCF of all-time.

I think St. Louis v Ottawa would be significantly worse.

lockman21 04-26-2017 10:22 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
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Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16775048)
I think St. Louis v Ottawa would be significantly worse.

At least St. Louis isn't all about the 1-3-1 trap.

aeroshady 04-26-2017 10:25 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Lets just hope it is not Ottawa v Anaheim again...

Exactly 10 years later.

TMoore4075 04-26-2017 10:33 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
So LeBrun and Burnside both gone from ESPN. I haven't gone to ESPN for hockey in forever but the one bright spot for hockey they had, is the web and now...gone.

TheLastPig 04-26-2017 10:34 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16775068)
So LeBrun and Burnside both gone from ESPN. I haven't gone to ESPN for hockey in forever but the one bright spot for hockey they had, is the web and now...gone.

They will both get scooped up. Guess they are just ditching all their hockey coverage.

lockman21 04-26-2017 10:37 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16775068)
So LeBrun and Burnside both gone from ESPN. I haven't gone to ESPN for hockey in forever but the one bright spot for hockey they had, is the web and now...gone.

Burnside sucked, but LeBrun was awesome.

They'll be replaced by one lesser known name or something. Cut two $150k+ salaries and replace it with one lesser salary.

That's my guess.

lockman21 04-26-2017 10:39 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16775072)
They will both get scooped up. Guess they are just ditching all their hockey coverage.

The NBA/NFL network

TMoore4075 04-26-2017 10:41 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16775072)
They will both get scooped up. Guess they are just ditching all their hockey coverage.

LeBrun still has TSN so he probably doesn't need to write but Burnside will probably find something.

aeroshady 04-26-2017 10:44 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16775068)
So LeBrun and Burnside both gone from ESPN. I haven't gone to ESPN for hockey in forever but the one bright spot for hockey they had, is the web and now...gone.

Wow, that is big news.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16775072)
They will both get scooped up. Guess they are just ditching all their hockey coverage.

I agree with this...also..does this include TSN?

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16775078)
Burnside sucked, but LeBrun was awesome.

They'll be replaced by one lesser known name or something. Cut two $150k+ salaries and replace it with one lesser salary.

That's my guess.

I actually disliked both for their opinions. I liked reading their stuff because they had good sources, but both have been long-time NY Rangers haters and doubters. LeBrun picked against the Rangers in pretty much every series of the last decade. Made me sick. For that reason, I am not a huge fan of him. That is what being a hockey is all about. You dislike the people that offend your team :lol

TMoore4075 04-26-2017 10:45 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
LeBrun is great on tv as an insider. I wish I could get TSN here in the states.

lockman21 04-26-2017 10:46 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
I feel like LeBrun actually knew his stuff though, and Burnside always just threw shit at the wall and hoped it stuck.

aeroshady 04-26-2017 10:50 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16775095)
LeBrun is great on tv as an insider. I wish I could get TSN here in the states.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16775097)
I feel like LeBrun actually knew his stuff though, and Burnside always just threw shit at the wall and hoped it stuck.

I don't disagree with either of you. I just didn't like him for the simple fact that he doesn't like the NY Rangers for some reason. As a fan of a team, you notice when writing is constantly negative about your team. It also gets annoying to read a senior writing never pick your team to advance in 10 years. (Seriously, I bet it has been maybe 1 time that LeBrun picked the Rangers to win a series...and that was against Ottawa this year).

He has great insider sources and for most of his NHL coverage he is solid.

Roose13 04-26-2017 10:52 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Really feel for LeBrun. He's good.

fonzz41 04-26-2017 10:57 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
I love LeBrun. He'll have no problem finding something else (besides his already-gig at TSN) if he wants it.

I wasn't as big a fan of Burnside. He was kind of an, "awe, how precious" type of guy. Good fluff pieces.

Only redeeming hockey personality at ESPN now is Buccigross, but he's done a lot less hockey writing lately.

aeroshady 04-26-2017 10:59 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16775119)
I love LeBrun. He'll have no problem finding something else (besides his already-gig at TSN) if he wants it.

I wasn't as big a fan of Burnside. He was kind of an, "awe, how precious" type of guy. Good fluff pieces.

Only redeeming hockey personality at ESPN now is Buccigross, but he's done a lot less hockey writing lately.

Man, I wish I could share the love for LeBrun :lol. Never realized how much being a fan of a team could impact your opinion of someone.

lockman21 04-26-2017 11:01 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16775119)
I love LeBrun. He'll have no problem finding something else (besides his already-gig at TSN) if he wants it.

I wasn't as big a fan of Burnside. He was kind of an, "awe, how precious" type of guy. Good fluff pieces.

Only redeeming hockey personality at ESPN now is Buccigross, but he's done a lot less hockey writing lately.

Not anymore:

Quote:

ESPN will let SportsCenter anchor John Buccigross’s contract expire this summer, and that Karl Ravech, Ryen Russillo, and Hannah Storm will see their roles at the network “significantly reduced.”

TMoore4075 04-26-2017 11:07 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
NBCSN should grab Bucci for NHL stuff. FS1 might go for him but does anyone watch that? I don't, but outside of PTI, I don't watch ESPN either.

unccrombie 04-26-2017 11:35 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
no point in tuning in to ESPN for NHL coverage since they don't have useage rights either. Can't even watch highlights because there's no play by play

fonzz41 04-26-2017 11:55 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16775134)
Not anymore:

Well, in common Utah vernacular: Eff that shiz. Eff it right to heck.

TMoore4075 04-26-2017 12:55 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16775242)
Well, in common Utah vernacular: Eff that shiz. Eff it right to heck.

The language....geez.

aeroshady 04-26-2017 01:03 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Crazy to see the most recent article on the NHL page on ESPN features 4 experts, 3 of which got fired today....

barbogast 04-26-2017 01:39 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Mega multi quote coming!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16774778)
I belive in this team holding a lead more than any other Caps team in years past. Hopefully experience and rest will help them out

Meh. I just don't know how much more experience they really need. This ain't the first or the second rodeo. And you really trust them? Let's not forget that there was a blown 4-1 lead in the most recent series. I understand the ultimately won the game and technically didn't lose the lead completely, but 4-1 after the first shouldn't be anywhere near as close as it was. They can't pull that shit against the Penguins.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16774786)
For sure. I have thought for the past couple of years all the Caps needed was to get over that mental hump of making to the ECF and they could bring a championship to DC.

I'm not sure if you remember this but the Caps were a goal being called back from Joel Ward in Game 5 against the Rags in 2015 from making it to the ECF.

But to win the Cup the Caps will have to probably stave off the Penns and then beat the Rags in the ECF. Def not an easy task

I'm not sure I share your sentiment that getting past round two means they'll win a Cup. That's still only 50% of the way there. The Rangers would love to spoil that, and I could most definitely see it happening.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16774791)
I think being a Caps fan we've learned to be optimistic but also logical. At least that's how I've dealt with my fandom.

The Caps have always showed so much promise, and as a fan you want to believe in the optimism but also hold on to the reality of their situation.

Barbs i think you're a very logical person but I think your head goes to a dark place when the Caps fail at times. I don't blame you because the Caps have shown multiple times that they have always let us down as fans. But dealing with this team as a fan mentally for the last couple years certainly hasn't been easy.

But I think the way this team has handled the Leafs series (in games 4 & 6, and all the OT's) has given some sort of relief. But then again it's the Caps...

Perhaps I am too jaded. But I've done this a lot. Like a whole lot. And the story, through now, has always been the same. I have no reason to realistically think the Caps are 6 weeks away from winning a Stanley Cup. I am very glad that other fans can find reasons to think that. But I've thought that before and have been very wrong. So I take it cautiously and yes I probably do fall into the "same ol' Caps" mentality too fast. But it's basically impossible not to. At some point there has to be a get it done factor. And everyone points to Ovie playoff stats that are fairly good but also underwhelming given how many times he's been to the playoffs, and I get that people wanna defend our guy. I want to too but again at some point it's gotta be enough fucking things away, get it done. All the way done. I still haven't seen that from them or him over this past decade.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeroshady (Post 16774809)
Oh I remember. It was a great no goal call!:lol

I also remember the Rangers blowing a 3-1 series lead to the Caps...funny how no one ever talks about that now though. Teams are totally different obviously, but that was still a thing that happened. I feel like it got overlooked because the Devils had an even bigger meltdown against the Canes that year.

Honestly the thing about the Rangers that gets lost is that that's the one team the Caps have proven a couple times that they can beat them. I would hope they wouldn't play too many mental gymnastics over them, especially if they were coming off a win over the Pens (getting way ahead of things here obviously)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16775068)
So LeBrun and Burnside both gone from ESPN. I haven't gone to ESPN for hockey in forever but the one bright spot for hockey they had, is the web and now...gone.

Yeah, this is big news for sure. I also haven't used ESPN for hockey or anything really in a long long time so whatever to me but it does suck for those guys. No doubt. Couldn't care less to see that ESPN is fully out on the NHL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16775086)
LeBrun still has TSN so he probably doesn't need to write but Burnside will probably find something.

Of course he will, too big a name not to

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16775134)
Not anymore:

Damn. He's always been my favorite.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16775148)
NBCSN should grab Bucci for NHL stuff. FS1 might go for him but does anyone watch that? I don't, but outside of PTI, I don't watch ESPN either.

That would be amazing. It would entice me to maybe even tune in for pregame coverage (no seriously, Bucci is the shit. He likes Weezer. I fucking love Weezer.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16775242)
Well, in common Utah vernacular: Eff that shiz. Eff it right to heck.

:lol goodness man careful with the language!

lockman21 04-26-2017 01:43 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16775242)
Well, in common Utah vernacular: Eff that shiz. Eff it right to heck.

Matty! You have CHILDREN!

TheLastPig 04-26-2017 01:45 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
cant wait for some hawkey tonight guys

aeroshady 04-26-2017 01:48 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16775472)
Honestly the thing about the Rangers that gets lost is that that's the one team the Caps have proven a couple times that they can beat them. I would hope they wouldn't play too many mental gymnastics over them, especially if they were coming off a win over the Pens (getting way ahead of things here obviously)

I think that beating the Pens would build a lot of momentum for the Caps. I would be worried about playing Washington in the 3rd round (of course I will worry about the Pens too). That said, the narrative is still that NY has had the Caps number recently. So it would be interesting if the media tried to make that a story again.

barbogast 04-26-2017 01:53 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
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Originally Posted by aeroshady (Post 16775490)
I think that beating the Pens would build a lot of momentum for the Caps. I would be worried about playing Washington in the 3rd round (of course I will worry about the Pens too). That said, the narrative is still that NY has had the Caps number recently. So it would be interesting if the media tried to make that a story again.

Well you know they would. And rightfully so I guess, it's a good story. It's twice in a row now you've beaten us right? Game 7 ot in '15 and 5-0 in '13 yeah? Pens fans disclaimer: of course we are waaaay ahead of ourselves. But yeah if the Caps can finally beat the Pens and carry that momentum into a Rangers series, the story of will they choke against the other team that loves to beat them is a very obvious and easy selling story.


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