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lockman21 07-29-2016 12:19 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16538503)
This is easily my favorite thread on ants to visit because I can just be a fan and not have to moderate because everyone is pretty civil in debates even when their team is knocked out of the playoffs. Just a good group of people.

Honestly, without this thread, I wouldn't visit ants at all.

TMoore4075 07-29-2016 12:44 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16538500)
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/bobby-ryan-dear-mom/

Oh my...if you don't tear up reading that, I'm pretty sure you're a robot.

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Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 16538514)
Damn. Lots of onions in this room all of a sudden.

I was reading it and it was touching at first but was still thinking wtf are you guys talking about and then read about him talking to his mom about proposing to his wife and about his mom meeting her granddaughter....

dmbetc 07-29-2016 12:49 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16538500)
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/bobby-ryan-dear-mom/

Oh my...if you don't tear up reading that, I'm pretty sure you're a robot.

Ugly crying at work.

fonzz41 07-30-2016 09:54 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16537788)
If it is not Hawks or Whaler colors with Kessel stitched on the back I have no desire to buy one. :lol

Actually this is a good idea. All of us get Kessel stitched into our teams' sweaters. Preserves our individuality while uniting us under The Phil.
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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16538605)
Honestly, without this thread, I wouldn't visit ants at all.

:thumbsup
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Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16538660)
Ugly crying at work.

It's morning and I was just reading the article in bed. I had to get up and leave so I wouldn't wake my wife with all the sniffing sounds and whimpers I was making. Even worse, I decided to read the article that appeared right after it, which was the one by Cam Ward about his son. I am an absolute wreck.

~Crashintome89~ 07-30-2016 12:26 PM

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hey guys, did you know bobby ryan is from cherry hill, new jersey which is right over the bridge from Philly?

Roose13 07-30-2016 02:40 PM

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I read the first sentence and went 'Oh God...'

barbogast 07-30-2016 05:18 PM

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I fucking love Player's Tribune. Great piece from Bobby Ryan. Quite a few personal touches in that article to boot. Thanks for sharing, Lockman.

lockman21 07-30-2016 06:07 PM

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One of my dream jobs is ghost writing for The Player's Tribune. Gotta be an incredible gig to sit and listen to these stories and then put them in writing.

Dramageek 07-31-2016 01:04 PM

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How can you not love Matt Cullen feeding his kids cereal out of the Stanley Cup?!

https://twitter.com/keeperofthecup/s...32237196664833

Sabres914 07-31-2016 01:09 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 16540341)
How can you not love Matt Cullen feeding his kids cereal out of the Stanley Cup?!

https://twitter.com/keeperofthecup/s...32237196664833

Love it! And Philip Pritchard is one of my favorite follows on Twitter. What a life that guy has.

barbogast 07-31-2016 01:25 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 16540341)
How can you not love Matt Cullen feeding his kids cereal out of the Stanley Cup?!

https://twitter.com/keeperofthecup/s...32237196664833

Obviously, would be better if it was Kessel feeding himself ice cream out of the Cup. Clearly.

fonzz41 07-31-2016 01:44 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16540351)
Obviously, would be better if it was Kessel feeding himself ice cream out of the Cup. Clearly.

Oh yeah, we all know this totally happened. It was dessert after he'd filled it with BBQ sauce.

dmbetc 07-31-2016 02:28 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 16540341)
How can you not love Matt Cullen feeding his kids cereal out of the Stanley Cup?!

https://twitter.com/keeperofthecup/s...32237196664833

Because Dustin Brown's kids drinking chocolate milk out of it is much cuter

http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptu...1.26.18-PM.png

fonzz41 08-01-2016 10:21 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Avs barely slide in before the arbitration ruling and sign Barrie. 4 years/$22 million.

That's a little high to my liking considering Barrie's skill set, but that's mostly due to my bias for defensemen who can actually, y'know, play defense. But to be honest, that's about the going rate for a highly [offensively] skilled right-handed defenseman who can pot 15 goals and 50-ish points a season (last season he had 49). Sure he needs a solid defensive partner, but there's definitely room for that kind of backend production on the Avs.

What I do like about the deal is that it will take him to age 28. If by that time he hasn't figured out his defensive game, then boom, let him walk. But if he DOES happen to improve defensively and maybe up his offensive production even a little more, this will look like a very good deal for a defenseman in his mid-20s.

Lcsulla 08-01-2016 10:54 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16539525)
Actually this is a good idea. All of us get Kessel stitched into our teams' sweaters. Preserves our individuality while uniting us under The Phil.

He is sort of like our mascot in here, it is funny. I think if I did get Kessel stitched onto a Whalers or Hawks blank I would pony up the extra few bucks and get XL put on where his number would be.

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16540819)
Avs barely slide in before the arbitration ruling and sign Barrie. 4 years/$22 million.

That's a little high to my liking considering Barrie's skill set, but that's mostly due to my bias for defensemen who can actually, y'know, play defense. But to be honest, that's about the going rate for a highly [offensively] skilled right-handed defenseman who can pot 15 goals and 50-ish points a season (last season he had 49). Sure he needs a solid defensive partner, but there's definitely room for that kind of backend production on the Avs.

What I do like about the deal is that it will take him to age 28. If by that time he hasn't figured out his defensive game, then boom, let him walk. But if he DOES happen to improve defensively and maybe up his offensive production even a little more, this will look like a very good deal for a defenseman in his mid-20s.

It is a bitch signing defensemen in an offseason like this where really solid guys are tough to come by, you are almost forced to overpay for them. He is capable of being better defensively but has not done so, hence the 4 year contract rather than locking him up long term I think. Comparatively speaking it is an awful deal for a middle of the road guy IMO - his annual cap hit is only 38 grand less than Duncan Keith and amazingly his cap hit is 2 mil more than Nicklas Hjalmarsson annually - both of whom I believe you would agree are better players.

unccrombie 08-01-2016 11:06 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16540377)
Because Dustin Brown's kids drinking chocolate milk out of it is much cuter

http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptu...1.26.18-PM.png

in Spidey suits, to boot

TheLastPig 08-01-2016 12:23 PM

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Empty netters blog is no more. That blows.

TMoore4075 08-01-2016 12:28 PM

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Vermette being bought out by Yotes. Anyone need a reliable defensive center?

lockman21 08-01-2016 12:30 PM

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Come on back, Vermy.

lockman21 08-01-2016 12:33 PM

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This is so bizarre to me...the Yotes just absorbed Datsyuk's contract because they have so much cap space...why are they doing this?

TMoore4075 08-01-2016 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16541008)
This is so bizarre to me...the Yotes just absorbed Datsyuk's contract because they have so much cap space...why are they doing this?

I read to free up logjam at center but....play him somewhere else for a year that you have left on his deal....In terms of paying actual money, they are only saving like 1.25mil because they pay him 3.75mil to play this year or pay 1.25mil this year and next. I don't get it. I know a new GM but you signed him after trading him because you wanted him back and he liked it there. Couldn't wait a year?

lockman21 08-01-2016 01:03 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16541010)
I read to free up logjam at center but....play him somewhere else for a year that you have left on his deal....In terms of paying actual money, they are only saving like 1.25mil because they pay him 3.75mil to play this year or pay 1.25mil this year and next. I don't get it. I know a new GM but you signed him after trading him because you wanted him back and he liked it there. Couldn't wait a year?

I'm just mostly perplexed that there's no one they could trade him too instead of putting him on waivers?

fonzz41 08-02-2016 08:51 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16540870)
It is a bitch signing defensemen in an offseason like this where really solid guys are tough to come by, you are almost forced to overpay for them. He is capable of being better defensively but has not done so, hence the 4 year contract rather than locking him up long term I think. Comparatively speaking it is an awful deal for a middle of the road guy IMO - his annual cap hit is only 38 grand less than Duncan Keith and amazingly his cap hit is 2 mil more than Nicklas Hjalmarsson annually - both of whom I believe you would agree are better players.

Hard to compare to a guy like Keith because he is already under contract and has been. I mean if Keith hit the open market this season, he'd be fetching at least $8 mil per. And with Nik, well as much as it pains me to say it, teams will always focus on the offensive side of what a player can do (not me, I'd take Nik over Barrie and day). And Barrie's got that. Plus, he's right handed, which is like the NHL equivalent of a unicorn for some reason. In the end, this is just another case of the way the nhl is today, like it or not. It's the going price for a young offensive defenseman, and I think Sakic did a decent job of coming out of it not overpaying.

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16541035)
I'm just mostly perplexed that there's no one they could trade him too instead of putting him on waivers?

Or why they didn't buy him out earlier in the FA period? You're right, it is weird.

Lcsulla 08-02-2016 09:46 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16542043)
Hard to compare to a guy like Keith because he is already under contract and has been. I mean if Keith hit the open market this season, he'd be fetching at least $8 mil per. And with Nik, well as much as it pains me to say it, teams will always focus on the offensive side of what a player can do (not me, I'd take Nik over Barrie and day). And Barrie's got that. Plus, he's right handed, which is like the NHL equivalent of a unicorn for some reason. In the end, this is just another case of the way the nhl is today, like it or not. It's the going price for a young offensive defenseman, and I think Sakic did a decent job of coming out of it not overpaying.

Oh I completely agree with you on both counts, I was just pointing out how the lack of solid D men this offseason drove the prices up to absurdity IMO - despite Jordie Benn (not Jamie Benn the center you idiots!) taking a pay cut to stay in Dallas. I think he could have got more than 3.3 mil per season if he hit the market. You are entirely correct about Keith, if he had hit free agency he have teams basically telling him to name his price if they had the cap space, he is that good both defensively and on the blue line. Regarding Nik, completely agree, he is a shut down defenseman who blocks more shots than anyone I have watched in ages but is not that active on offense (averaging about a point every 4 games) but defensively he is among the best in the world - it is amazing to me he is so underpaid. I think 6 cups between the two of them shows that locking them both up long term for relatively cheap annual contracts was a damn solid move by the front office.

Lcsulla 08-02-2016 09:56 AM

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I made a mistake on Niklas Hjalmarsson cap hit, I forgot he got a 600k annual raise when he resigned (5 years) before the 2013-14 season.

fonzz41 08-02-2016 11:05 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
The Gabe's article in the Player's Trib regarding concussions:

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/we-...ons-right-now/

lockman21 08-02-2016 11:09 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
NHL PR team out to get ya, Matty.

https://twitter.com/PR_NHL/status/760490530140745728

fonzz41 08-02-2016 11:16 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16542276)

One of the worst days of my life.

On that same note, one of my most sought after items is an Adam Foote Jackets sweater.

hailtopitt 08-02-2016 11:16 AM

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honestly forgot the Jackets existed until you just mentioned them

lockman21 08-02-2016 11:34 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16542267)
The Gabe's article in the Player's Trib regarding concussions:

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/we-...ons-right-now/

Will read this when I get time. Pretty excited.


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