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UCFish 06-30-2015 02:46 PM

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If it was 4 million the deal would have been done.

I get it. Guy deserved to get paid....just don't talk about hometown discounts.

^ Exactly

lockman21 06-30-2015 02:52 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 16035343)
If it was 4 million the deal would have been done.

I get it. Guy deserved to get paid....just don't talk about hometown discounts.

^ Exactly

Everyone does. It's part of the business now. Say you'll take a hometown discount to the public and then fight for your money behind closed doors. I was saying it for weeks, that's very "PR".

Everything in sports is so PR now, you have to take literally everything athletes say with a grain of salt. It's all rehearsed and been ingrained in their heads to say the most PR thing possible.

TMoore4075 06-30-2015 02:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 16035306)
Well thanks for 2 cups....nice of him to lie and talk about hometown discounts when he clearly had no intention of doing so

I'd be pissed too but I'm wondering if he was getting offers he didn't expect. When the UFAs suck ass like this, I'm not surprised people are thinking offer sheets.
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16035325)
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....WHAT THE FUCK DUDE

Amazing.

UCFish 06-30-2015 03:01 PM

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So this Dano guy any good?

Bron Yr Aur 06-30-2015 03:06 PM

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Ok yeah I didn't see the report from McKenzie. Even then I would have probably done that deal.

That said, I have a lot less problem with this now that we got Dano. Compare Dano's numbers last year with Saad's in 2013. Yeah, they are basically identical. We will have Dano & TT both playing for less than $1m this season. I am more OK with this now.

DMBZeppelin 06-30-2015 03:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 16035372)
So this Dano guy any good?

All I know about him:

@JayZawaski670: Make no mistake...Dano is the key player to the Hawks in this deal. Yes, Anisimov is the name you know. Dano could be a stud.

@travisyost: Marko Dano's 19/20 year old season (35 games): 19 PTS, 56% of the scoring chances, 54% of the Corsis on a middling team.

UCFish 06-30-2015 03:11 PM

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At the end of the day the Hawks just won a Cup....for the third time in 6 years...so seems silly to be getting angry (working to convince myself not to be angry/Bickell signing probably ruined this).

DMBZeppelin 06-30-2015 03:13 PM

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I mean time will tell what Saad will be away from the Blackhawks. Up until this point Bowman had been very good about keeping the core guys, and figuring everything else out around it. I thought of Saad as being a key part of the core going forward, so that stings a little bit.

I also find the inclusion of Morin to be rather odd. I think he's a solid player, but Quenneville hates him. He probably hates that he's back in Chicago.

DMBZeppelin 06-30-2015 03:16 PM

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Bowman May 24th: "He's emerged as a guy coaches trust, so I would think he's going to play an even bigger role next year," Bowman told the Tribune. "He's ready for that. He'll be 23 and he'll have a couple of years of solid NHL experience under his belt. He's ready for taking that next step to being a featured guy. "We'll get him signed."

Saad on June 17: "The money’s going to come and go. To win championships and play on a great team, that’s what it’s all about."

:(

fonzz41 06-30-2015 03:17 PM

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And now Bieksa to Ducks for a second. Fun day.

TMoore4075 06-30-2015 03:20 PM

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If Jackets stay healthy, they should be tough next year.

Bron Yr Aur 06-30-2015 03:40 PM

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It will be very interesting to see what deal Saad eventually gets from the Jackets...

fonzz41 06-30-2015 03:40 PM

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You never know for sure until they actually get on the ice together, but I'd think Saad and RJ would be awesome together. CBJ has a really good top 6

bonzo48280 06-30-2015 03:47 PM

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I'm more shocked that someone thought Bieksa was worth a 2nd than the fact that Saad got traded after seeing what Saad wanted.

$6.5 for Saad? No way man. Patches doesn't get that and he has 2 35+ goal seasons. Saad doesn't have a 30 goal season and he got to skate with Toews and Kane. Toews and Kane also didn't even get $6.5 off their entry level deals...but Saad should? Maybe, but not from the Hawks. Good move by Stan, and I highly doubt they're done. Sucks, but needed to be done.

The mistakes were made 2 years ago when you signed Rosie to a 2-year deal and Bickell. Now you're out a Leddy and a Saad

UCFish 06-30-2015 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 16035427)
I'm more shocked that someone thought Bieksa was worth a 2nd than the fact that Saad got traded after seeing what Saad wanted.

$6.5 for Saad? No way man. Patches doesn't get that and he has 2 35+ goal seasons. Saad doesn't have a 30 goal season and he got to skate with Toews and Kane. Toews and Kane also didn't even get $6.5 off their entry level deals...but Saad should? Maybe, but not from the Hawks. Good move by Stan, and I highly doubt they're done. Sucks, but needed to be done.

The mistakes were made 2 years ago when you signed Rosie to a 2-year deal and Bickell. Now you're out a Leddy and a Saad

:thumbsup

lockman21 06-30-2015 03:53 PM

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Be hilarious if someone offer sheets Saad.

bonzo48280 06-30-2015 03:55 PM

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Columbus already said they'll match it

DMBZeppelin 06-30-2015 03:56 PM

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Since the Hawks will have a little more money. I wonder if that opens up a chance for Vermette coming back.

bonzo48280 06-30-2015 03:57 PM

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TIL the hawks will have a little money

TMoore4075 06-30-2015 04:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 16035440)
Columbus already said they'll match it

Yup and have the cap space to do it. With Saad and Hamilton, Bruins and Hawks didn't have the cap space to match. Cap is making crazy things happen.

rickyh24 06-30-2015 04:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 16035237)
Saad is not going anywhere


:lol :lol

UCFish 06-30-2015 04:12 PM

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:lol :lol

Probably should have checked twitter...there were already rumblings

rickyh24 06-30-2015 04:13 PM

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Think he was moved like 45 seconds after your post.

UCFish 06-30-2015 04:20 PM

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Possibly less....I will never trust Bowman again

dmbetc 06-30-2015 04:54 PM

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This is the most entertaining off season.

jackisback24 06-30-2015 05:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DMBZeppelin (Post 16035392)
Bowman May 24th: "He's emerged as a guy coaches trust, so I would think he's going to play an even bigger role next year," Bowman told the Tribune. "He's ready for that. He'll be 23 and he'll have a couple of years of solid NHL experience under his belt. He's ready for taking that next step to being a featured guy. "We'll get him signed."

Saad on June 17: "The money’s going to come and go. To win championships and play on a great team, that’s what it’s all about."

:(

It's a Saad day indeed.

jackisback24 06-30-2015 05:18 PM

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The Milan Lucic trade return now includes an additional first round pick.
The Bruins have traded goaltender Martin Jones to the San Jose Sharks for a 2016 first round pick and prospect Sean Kuraly.
Boston.com.

TMoore4075 06-30-2015 05:26 PM

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Bowman did what he had to do. Saad was probably getting offers he didn't expect, and couldn't refuse. He went to Bowman and said this is what I'm being offered and Bowman had to get the best deal possible. I'm sure I'd be disappointed if I was a Hawks fan but I don't think Bowman or Saad were lying. I think circumstances changed when Saad starting getting those offers.

JRS1386 06-30-2015 05:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jackisback24 (Post 16035550)
The Milan Lucic trade return now includes an additional first round pick.
The Bruins have traded goaltender Martin Jones to the San Jose Sharks for a 2016 first round pick and prospect Sean Kuraly.
Boston.com.

breaking news

lockman21 06-30-2015 05:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16035564)
Bowman did what he had to do. Saad was probably getting offers he didn't expect, and couldn't refuse. He went to Bowman and said this is what I'm being offered and Bowman had to get the best deal possible. I'm sure I'd be disappointed if I was a Hawks fan but I don't think Bowman or Saad were lying. I think circumstances changed when Saad starting getting those offers.

I think he'd been looking to get paid from the start. If he wasn't, it would have been a quick bridge deal like we all expected. His agent isn't stupid, and neither is Saad.

$6.5m AAV is absurd. $4ish for 2-3 years is more like it. I mean, look what Ryan Johansen held out for last offseason. I'm really curious to see what Columbus pays him.

Losing Paliotta really hurts, though. I feel so bad for him, he could have signed anywhere and wanted to develop in the Blackhawks system.

Marko Dano will be a nice piece, interested to see how he grows. Not sure where Anisimov fits.


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