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Been a while since Dave and carter have gotten in a room and written together yeah? Prolly since big whiskey?
Away from the world: Dave wrote all himself basically Come tomorrow: lot of odds and ends and stuff they quickly recorded Cool if him and carter are woodshedding some stuff just the two of them....will be curious to see what if anything comes of it! |
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Yup. I’m really curious to hear what they worked on... |
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DMBAlmanac has tonight's Sirius By Request venue listed as Haunted Hollow. They did note that this is not confirmed, but looking at pictures of the studio on their website compared to the two videos posted by Sirius it certainly looks like it could be the case.
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It would be amazing if this was at Haunted Hollow with someone in addition to Dave, named Carter |
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Would be cool to get Carter. Maybe another new song, surprise announcement, or rare bust out?
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There's two videos again for this show available:
- LIOG - OSW |
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Surprised Dave didn't make Sirius XM play DYR 4th in the set :)
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Anyone know of sessions of unreleased material that have happened but not leaked.
Wonder when we’ll get Cavallo (Big Whiskey, Come Tomorrow) or Harris (Dave’s solo album Some Devil) |
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I seem to recall reading (but not sure where), that there weren't many (or possibly any) left over CT songs. There are also some improv/jams leftover from the AFTW sessions. It's also likely that we do not know about a good portion of the studio sessions, so it's safe to assume there's tons of recorded stuff we do not know about and that may or may not be released in the future. |
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It's safe to assume that there are a significant number of finished tunes, at least an album's worth that could be/have been released at any moment. That said, I KNOW NOTHING, but I'm full of hope for more music. And that can be previously unreleased, never played live, or studio versions of live rarities, along with completely NEW music. |
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Definitely lots of material left over from the combined CT/old Batson sessions... Bismarck, Death on the High Seas, Be Yourself, Plastic Girl maybe although I hope we never hear it again, plus they supposedly worked on Shotgun, Sugar Will, Crazy Easy, #40, Sweet Up and Down, Break Free, Break for It, Blackjack, etc. on and off during those various sessions. I wouldn't mind an album of completely new material, or a few old ones mixed in with all new. Either way I still hope all of those unreleased and completed songs see the light of day eventually, including some of the tunes from leaked Batson sessions. Hope one day the band just opens the vaults and does a huge B-sides release.
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That said, we doubt that was the plan by the band, but I can imagine management thinking this and not necessarily encouraging the release of extra tracks or loosies. One can easily picture them hoping to use them as incentive to sell reissues, box sets, or the like. And now, you only sell a relative handful of these to die hard fans. In the case of DMB many of them will likely complain about these versions and prefer demo versions and/or live versions. I think the exception might be posthumous releases, like w/ Petty's Wildflowers & All the Rest release. Regardless, we'd buy any "new" material/collection of songs from the band (and/or Dave) whenever they're ready to set it free. Willingly throwing caution to wind and just hoping we like the music. |
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It’s been 17 years since Some Devil. I wonder if somewhere down the line will be a second Dave solo album (could have same people as Some Devil). I bet if it’s in the RCA contract it may happen.
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This is old news buy Brady Blade mentioned that he was doing some work with Dave in 2017.
“Next year, I’m working with Dave,” Blade revealed. “I think he’s got to do another solo record, so we might get together on that.” https://jambands.com/news/2016/09/14...ecord-in-2017/ |
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From everything folks have found and read, DMB didn't care the D&F thing, especially the tour that excluded them. So maybe Dave doesn't want/intend to rock the boat again? It was still great to hear his music through a different filter. That said, we've gotten quite a few different filters w/in the band itself... |
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At this point in DMB career, I wish they would just be more open with their prior work. Gather all the discarded B-sides, tweak it a bit if you absolutely need to, and put them on an official record. I love what Radiohead has done with their discography. It feels like pretty much everything they've ever recorded has an official release and I wish DMB and Dave in particular would be more willing to let some of this work out into the open.
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I would restate what I've stated and restated previously, but no one gives a flying fig Newman. And I get it, I really do.
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Still kills me they recorded Sugar Will and Bismarck, and thought "nah, dont release those. Let's release Baby Blue and Come Tomorrow instead." SMFH.
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Yeah, I think what he is saying is Sugar Will and Bismarck are very good and Baby Blue and Come Tomorrow are God awful. Checks out.
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Your statement is false as many people that visit this board obviously do care. Maybe the band and management don’t care but some of their fans certainly do. What’s the point of sitting on it at this point? Just release it as is. Especially in these times. Would be nice to do something to add a little light to the darkness. Go on SNL and play Kill the King and Black Jack. Do something different and unexpected for once. |
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Baby Blue - not God awful
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I was saying no one gives a shit about what I have to say on the topic. |
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I actually forgot Baby Blue was a song.
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Baby Blue is great, y'all are crazy. Dave solo version from the Gorge Webcast 2011 is what I always go back to. It's on my iPod (lol) with all my obscure DMB shows that I keep in the car
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Anyone catch the Sirius xm interview where he literally said he just wrote a bunch in Virginia, then called Carter up, then Buddy and Tim, then Stefan, and then Rashawn and Jeff????!!! The band was just recording in Charlottesville. Have I missed anyone talking about this!!??
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Yup. All new tunes, and he talked about a new unreleased song that he said is one of the best songs he’s written. They recorded with Evans, and it sounded like more of a spur of the moment thing. No other names mentioned.
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That just played on the radio? Was there a special interview scheduled today or is it just playing randomly
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Go on sirius rn and go back an hour then restart show. Yeah that song “walk around the moon” is the one he said is one of the best he’s written. Not released yet. He said it’s about a walk in the woods and some mushrooms.
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this is all very exciting. I'm guessing nothing official about a release of any sort? I'll listen to it soon.
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Nothing about any official release. He talked about it very casually. Definitely exciting! Based off “The Ocean and the Butterfly” I’m looking forward to hear more!
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i always love hearing tidbits of information like this about DMB and like to think that the last 7 months may have ignited a creative burst out of dave. i'd also love the end product to be something that stays with me for longer than a few days. I haven't listened to come tomorrow since the week it was released. and i would loooooooooooooooooooove to get bismark and surgar will on a release. finally.
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Dave interviews are a tough listen. He rambles so much haha.
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Dave also said Big Whiskey was his best album :lol
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Carter in studio recording congas today.
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:bounce that’s awesome! Thanks for the update! |
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If there’s any positive from all the devastation of 2020, it’s that you’re seeing bands and artists bunker down and write without deadlines or pressures to release nothing. Here’s to hoping they’re just doing as they please and following the muse.....I mean we kind of knew him and carter had been working and we knew that shadows on the wall had been in the bag for a few months now....so interesting.
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I just want to hear these 7 guys go in the studio together and create a new album from start to finish. Not 18 producers over a span of 15 years...not trying to force a rekindling with Steve Lillywhite and releasing something that all parties didn't agree on. I think in the right environment, something special could be created.
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LET’S GO.
This process may bring the best studio music from the band since BW. This natural process working with Rob and hearing Singing from the Windows and Ocean and the Butterfly has me really excited. I’ve said this before, but the next album will be the first without some sort of hinderance since BTCS- Everyday - Ballard and Dave write the album for everyone in 12 days after the LWS Busted Stuff - band feels pressure to make an “official” album of LS somewhat begrudgingly Stand Up - Batson helps the band in a “hip-hop” influenced album that drove the band apart and fans hated Big Whiskey - (I’m one of the few who love BW- I say it’s in the Big 4) obviously Leroi’s death was huge Away From the World - clearly an album/process Dave is unhappy with, continued to sour band with Steve Come Tomorrow - Boyd falling out, 4 producers throwing tracks together sloppily leading to the weakest album since SU maybe this freedom and ease that the band hasn’t had in years will lead us to a great album, which they are overdue for. |
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Exciting reading these updates. It's awesome that this great band I love is still making music. Period.
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Here are the main takeaways from that portion of the Sirius interview.
-Dave says writing is going well. He's been home in Virginia, just hanging out and noodling on guitars outside with Rob Evans. Rob will start randomly setting up mics saying to Dave "Well what if you play something really good?" So it sounds like there's a lot of recordings. -Rob was the one constantly saying "We should get Carter to play on this..." There was one song in particular that Dave said they got really excited about and just 2 hours later it's one of his favorite songs he ever wrote. -The above song is called "Walk Around the Moon" and according to Dave it's about taking a walk in the woods and maybe finding a mushroom in the woods... This is the song that made Dave say "Okay, let's call Carter." -Dave says at the moment he and the band have a couple more songs than he can count on both hands (so 12?) -Dave says some songs are raucous rocking, some songs are really sweet, and there is some "retro music" he's excited about. -It started with him going into a room playing a song for Carter, Dave standing behind the glass and just listening to him. Carter came in and said "I'm so outta practice since we haven't been on the road" but then he'd just slay, and play something so beautiful, with so much power but so composed, so elevating.Typical Dave fawning over Carter, which, fair. -Then they brought everyone else in the studio, Dave joked that they were in hazmat suits. It started with Carter, then Tim and Buddy (Dave's really excited about sharing some videos of Tim and Buddy sitting next to each other with their masks on just exchanging licks). -Dave says the process was beautiful and maybe overcautious--They're all tested absurdly frequently for Covid. Stefan came in, got off the airplane in his "hazmat suit," played the bass with big gloves. -Then finally the horns came in. -When asked how has this year's events impacted his songwriting, Dave says he had a lot of time to write music, and it's been a time of real freedom for him. He didn't want to put pressure on himself, so it's all been really open for him. God, I hope we hear more on this soon! Really love Singing From the Windows and The Ocean and the Butterfly! :bounce |
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I hope we get to hear the fruits of these sessions at some point soon.
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They should get together and just jam for a couple hours and live stream it for an access fee for charity. I know I'd pay for that. Play some new songs, some old songs, workshop some stuff. Man, that would be fucking magic. Too bad it won't happen. |
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Haha yea, studio sessions with this band are like double sscret probation. |
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I kinda wish Dave didn't say Walk Around the Moon was one of his favorites he has ever written. That sets expectations high and if we ever hear it the potential for a let down is high even if the song is good.
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I wish the band didn't have a history of doing this stuff and then setting the work aside...forever.
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I wonder what he meant by retro music. Sound like they might be working on a couple older tracks as well. Man this is exciting. I hope they stick with one producer (Evans) and I hope for mostly new tunes.
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I'd guess that "retro music" is referring to the song "Ocean and the butterfly" which certainly has that retro feel. Which certainly reminds me of the classic, "Heart and Soul" |
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I don’t mind if the horns are coming in last. That’s prob how 90% of their catalogue has been written; Dave writing something solo and then bringing it to the rest of the band. Just so long as he has some space carved out for Jeff to go off. Either way, it’s great to hear that Dave is still writing and the band is in the studio making new music. Always hopeful that Dave’s writing skills will get better eventually.
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And it's a sort of weird irony that he was such a huge part of creating and shaping songs and now the sax player is one of the last guys in the studio. It just takes away from one of the most unique things about the band. On a positive note, the mindset of Rob Evans sounds great (as much as I don't like That Girl is You), and Dave and Carter being the foundation works for me. |
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Lmao what about Dave’s original 4-song demo? Song that Jane Likes? Recently? I’ll Back you Up? BOWA?
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More or less that's just how you record anyway, with the exception of Fonzi's bass. main rhythm - primary tonal instruments (in this case, Dave's rhythm guitar) and drums, then bass (usually), then rhythm colour - secondary tonal instruments (layered guitars and keys), then accents (horns, strings, secondary percussion, & soloists). Horns being recorded last is just how it goes.
When Roi was here, they fleshed out the songs together for the most part by jamming. I don't see that happening with the current group in the same fashion. You just can't compare the band dynamic when it was the original five creating new music versus now. It will forever be different. Most of the songwriting happens with Dave by himself now it seems and then the others are invited to add, and the shaping that used to go on pre-2005 is less natural and possibly less apt to happen. |
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Dave confirms Carter and him just completed album and it’s coming soon in this group chat. Discussed multiple times in this video. Beginning, around 5 min mark and another time later briefly.
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"Carter was jumping up and down yesterday" just pumped me up :lol
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The part about jumping up and down is at about 5:15. And he talks a bit more about it at 11:00.
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Get ready to jump up and down my friends :)!
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Sounds like he and Carter got a little buzzed together to celebrate the finishing of the album haha!
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