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I think this is going to be a fun series. Pens really need to make adjustments and bounce back strong game two. They looked run down already. So proud of my baby Penguins alumni.

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How many shots were blocked or contested by the Preds?

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weird game last night.... just, weird. But ill take the W

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I was asking that question in regards to your post here:

So, not unrelated and certainly not as strange as your behavior.

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His behavior wasn't strange. It's called a melt. People have them from time to time, especially if htey are passionate about the topic at hand.

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Also, Barbs questions is referring to people outside of western PA pulling for the Pens to win another Cup. Whereas excitingjae was asking if a team has fans outside of its region. Two different questions with two different answers.

Question 1: Is anyone happy about the Pens possibly winning a cup that does not live in western PA?

Answer: Probably not. Unless you really hate the Preds (post about melting over the preds goes here and is something along the lines of: "Suban is a dirty cheat, Preds get all the calls, they are scumbags go Pens, I am very angry that the Hawks got swept"), I would imagine the rest of the causal fans would like to see someone new win the Cup.

Question 2: Does anyone outside of DC like the Caps.

Answer: Yes, yes they do. The Caps have a lot of fans and they have not annoyed everyone by winning many...caugh...or any...cough...Cups. The longer Ovi goes without winning a cup, the more fans that don't hate will want to see him win one.

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Oh I fucking love Phil Kessel :lol:lol

This is why playing prevent defense is terrible in any sport. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Put up 7 if you have to. This is the SCF. The Preds aren't going to quit down by three with 40 minutes to play.

You need to just sit back, take a deep breath and just enjoy the sport. I mean, yea I don't like the Pens on my side either, but this is just... weird.

At least the Caps made some noise before being a total disappointment.

*See comment about making more noise*

Besides, the Hawks won three fucking Cups the last six years. No one should be this angry. Have a Coke and a smile, mother fucker! (Love Eddie Murphy.)

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Maybe it's because I haven't really paid that close of attention, but I watched the E:60 segment on SC yesterday morning about Subban. He didn't seem like that bad of a guy. Of course there was a bit with Melrose saying he's really inconsistent.

Then again, I haven't paid that close of attention to Montreal and Nashville over the last few years.

I'm not sure I get the hate.

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I used to hate Subban when he was in Montreal years ago. He was a young player, cocky, and came off like a jerk on the ice. But I read, see and hear so many great accounts of the person he is and I cooled greatly on that hate in Montreal. I was excited he was traded because now I can openly root for the guy. He's just fun to watch. This is a game. It's supposed to be fun. Why do we have to take shit so seriously? That's another reason Milbury can fuck right off his high horse.

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That's kind of what I thought. He came across as I a guy fans hate because he doesn't play for your team. But, if he did play for your team he'd probably be your favorite player.

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Yeah Ive never gotten the PK hate either tbh. I think hes great for the sport.

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Here's my thing with Subban, and admittedly where I need to dial back my vitriol towards him: He is probably my least favorite player in the NHL - I still hold to that - but I've had to accept that it's not his fault that I dislike him.

I've always maintained that the reason I don't like him is that he's not nearly as good as advertised. He's got a great shot, yes, but he's not a great skater, he makes dumb decisions, especially in his own zone, he's not skilled enough defensively IMO to be a top-tier defenseman, etc... In a word, he's overrated. But what I've had to realize is that he's not overrating himself. He's not advertising himself as the #1 defenseman in the game. PK Subban, as much as I don't like the way he plays, comes out and plays his game. The people I should be hating on are all those that overrate him. Because yes, they're wrong. Those that talk about him as one of the best defenseman in the NHL are out of their minds, but HE'S not one of the people saying that (as far as I know).

And sure he's cocky, brash, etc. But he's also extremely charitable (wasn't it like $10 million to that children's hospital??), warm with fans, fun, a great community guy. He's the perfect personality for a city like Nashville that is absolutely nuts for their hockey team.

Is he still one of my least favorite players in the NHL? You bet. Could I easily rattle off at least 20 d-men I'd take over him? Yep, probably 30. Does he belong anywhere near a Norris Trophy ballot? Nope, IMO. But do I need to dial back personal attacks on him a little? You bet.

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I still think the Weber trade was better for Montreal as I agree. I like Subban a lot but he makes some head scratchingly bad decisions with the puck.

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catfish guy last night being charged with disorderly conduct, disrupting a meeting and possessing instruments of a crime.


These better all get dropped. Thats insanity.


And of course Ron Cook is saying the guy should get a week in prison, jfc.

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I think what scott said about subban was out of line. Especially coming from a guy that made the all star game as a joke.

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Should charge their same idiot fans for throwing shit on the ice during Game 7 of the ECF then...

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throwing shit on the ice is dumb, but again, the view they showed the crowd looked like a clear good goal, so not surprising people are gonna react poorly. Video screen guy needs to be better in that situation.

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From WPXI:

JUST IN: Here's how Predators fan Jacob Waddell got the catfish into PPG Paints Arena last night:
Waddell told police he bought the catfish in Tennessee, vacuum sealed it and drove it up to Pittsburgh. He then put the catfish IN HIS COMPRESSION SHORTS to sneak it into the arena. You can't make this stuff up.

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So bad, right?

I think Weber was better for the Predators (the team), but Subban is better for Nashville (the city/hockey community). If that makes sense.

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gee I wonder why in the world people might dislike the guy despite not being able to articulate a reason why...

one of life's little mysteries I suppose

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And come on man, flyers fans threw light up bracelets that were given out to honor the team founder during a playoff game last year because they were mad they were losing :lol

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The dude is 36 YEARS OLD too! JFC.

I agree he should be charged. Can't have nitwits throwing shit onto the ice. Same goes for the jagoffs in Game 7.

Although Ron Cook is a curmudgeonly jackass who doesn't know squat about hockey. Fine and probation and call it a day.

If this was European soccer that dude would get a lifetime ban and the Preds as an organization would get fined.

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The E:60 segment touched on that (i.e. what happened after a playoff game in Boston).

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I mean, vacuum sealing it then sticking it in your pants is the best way to do it clearly.

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Wings fans throw octopi, Panthers fans used to throw rats.. its kind of just one of those weird hockey things.

Charging a guy for a crime for something so innocuous is totally out of line.

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I think the octopus thing and rats were dumb too.

Can't throw shit on the ice.

Where do you draw the line? Dead fish ok? Bottles and batteries not?

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Things that are dangerous is where the line is drawn. Even throwing a plastic cup or something doesnt deserve actual punishment from the law... you get kicked out of the arena and arent allowed back, then that is that.

He did it during a stoppage so I dont see any harm at all.

If youre throwing batteries/glass bottles or heavy stuff that can actually hurt people, and are clearly trying to (ie throwing @ the bench or whatever) then maybe go forward with real punishment.

I mean, throwing hats on the ice is literally one of the best traditions in hockey. :lol

I love that wings fans throw the octopus personally, I think its a cool tradition.

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And those people were fucking idiots too.

There's a difference between a team's tradition and throwing something that disrupts play or shows immaturity. The octopus is fine in Detroit, as are hat tricks everywhere.

The catfish is an awesome tradition they've had for 14 years, and by doing so on the road in the team's first Cup final adds to how much fun they're simply having with this. We have a new, passionate and fun fanbse in the NHL. It was their way of saying, "hey, we're here and we want to mix it up with the Pens by showing off our silly traditions."

Christ, can't people have fun with this game anymore?

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Catfish did not offend me at all. I like the energy from just one game of this series. Whoever hoists the cup will certainly be deserving.

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Still waiting for someone to throw a penguin on the ice.