Originally Posted by sgtpeppr (Post 12777514)

Originally Posted by Giant Jew (Post 12777701)

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup I need one of those jerseys

Originally Posted by DmBand801 (Post 12782152)

Rumors circulating on the Island that Snow has offered 8 for 64 to Doughty.

No links, I'm just going by what my buddies have told me.

Originally Posted by esa008 (Post 12783300)

I can't tell you how many hours I watched Joe Sakic growing up but I think this is the most I've ever seen him celebrate anything.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-wp9274

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12783547)

SAKIC SUCKS! Not really. He's the only player I had respect for. I guess Drury was ok too just irritating since he was clutch.

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12783741)

:lol It's ok, you're kind of obligated to say that.

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12785561)

Very interested in the Shea Weber and Parise ones. Once Weber is addressed I'd think Doughty would be signed not to long after. You can scratch Wheeler off that list now though.

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12784563)

If Yashin comes back, Daigle should too.

Originally Posted by MacGuyver (Post 12785556)

Arbitration is starting pretty soon eh?

July 20: Lauri Korpikoski (Phoenix), Teddy Purcell (Tampa Bay), Viktor Stalberg (Chicago)
July 21: Andrew Cogliano (Anaheim), Brad Richardson (Los Angeles), Brandon Dubinsky (NY Rangers)
July 22: Ryan Wilson (Colorado)
July 25: Andrej Sekera (Buffalo), Brian Boyle (Rangers)
July 26: Kevin Porter (Colorado)
July 28: Josh Gorges (Montreal), Ryan Callahan (Rangers)
July 29: Jannik Hansen (Vancouver)
Aug. 2: Shea Weber (Nashville)
Aug. 3: Chris Campoli (Chicago), Blake Wheeler (Winnipeg), Zach Parise (New Jersey)
Aug. 4: Mark Fraser (New Jersey), Dan Sexton (Anaheim), Blake Comeau (NY Islanders)

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12785888)

Looks like we are back to the Osgood only played on good teams stuff again out in the twitter world. Again not comparing the two but were any of the teams Roy won Cups with shit teams? Especially those last two with the Avs. Osgood is by no means Roy but you win with good teams. Ask Vokoun what it's like to play with crap teams.

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12785959)

This is the bottom line. Was Osgood helped by having the likes of Nick Lidstrom, Slava Fetisov, and Brian Rafalski on his blueline over the years? You bet. But was Patrick Roy helped by having guys like Foote, Bourque, and Blake on his? Absolutely.

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12785979)

Right on. Had Roy stayed in Montreal his career would have ended much sooner imo and would he be looked at the same way if his career ended badly there? He missed the playoffs in 95 and got lit up by the Wings in his last game with the Habs. Going to the Avs got him two Cups and 6 trips to the WCF's or beyond out of his 8 years there. That wouldn't happen with the Habs. Playing with that team there brought him back from the brink.

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12786012)

And dang, if you're going to retire, try to do so as a Red Wing. You'll definitely have a job after! :lol

Ken Holland is a cool dude, as much as it pains me to pay anyone in that organization a compliment. ;)

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12786167)

Devils to announce coach at 3:30 edt. Peter DeBoer possibly the coach.

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12786493)

This should finally stop things.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=372049

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12786664)

Osgood playing on great teams doesn't make him a HOF'er. How many All-Star games was he in? How many Vezina trophies?

He won games with great teams in front of him. Was he a winner? Yes. Was he PERSONALLY good enough to be classified as a HOF'er? No, IMO.

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12786672)

Thank God. The rumors of him going elsewhere was getting to be too much.

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12786707)

You just don't 400 games on the backs of others. You just don't.

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12786664)

Osgood playing on great teams doesn't make him a HOF'er. How many All-Star games was he in? How many Vezina trophies?

He won games with great teams in front of him. Was he a winner? Yes. Was he PERSONALLY good enough to be classified as a HOF'er? No, IMO.

Originally Posted by MacGuyver (Post 12786733)

F***ing ridiculous not one team signed him to an offer sheet. But what can you do when collusion runs the league. Anyway. Go Jets.

Originally Posted by DmBand801 (Post 12786988)

No offer sheets is an unwritten rule. No one does them, in order to avoid being that guy.

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12787037)

thanks for offer sheeting Hammer Doug Wilson. Now we don't have Ladd

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12786801)

Just for the sake of discussion, here are HOF'er Patrick Roy's career numbers, who I picked because he's the most recent goalie selection (from Wikipedia):

- 3 Stanley Cups (all as starter)
- 3 Vezina trophies
- 11 all-star appearances
- 4-time first team all star, two-time second
- Most NHL playoff games played by a goaltender (247) (second most playoff games of all players)
- Most NHL playoff wins by a goaltender (151)
- Most Conn Smythe Trophy wins (3)
- Most NHL playoff shutouts (23) – tied with Martin Brodeur.
- First NHL goalie to play 1,000 NHL games (finished with 1029 games, later passed by Brodeur).

- 551-313 record
- 2.54 GAA
- .910 SV
- 66 shutouts

FYI: Roy played 19 seasons, Osgood 17

Interesting how similar their stats are (obviously not in games played), yet how many more accolades Roy received. Go Patrick! ;)

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12787034)

(cue MacGuyver rant about offer sheets ;))

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12788587)

But it's #$^#ing Stamkos!

Originally Posted by esa008 (Post 12788561)

Roy won 4 cups. '86, '93, '96, '01. 1996 was the year he did not win the Conn Smythe

Originally Posted by MacGuyver (Post 12788723)

I'm not sure what else can be said that I haven't said already. Top 5 player in league. 21 years old. RFA. It just doesn't make sense. No sense whatsoever.

Originally Posted by MacGuyver (Post 12788723)

I'm not sure what else can be said that I haven't said already. Top 5 player in league. 21 years old. RFA. It just doesn't make sense. No sense whatsoever.

At any rate, once Doughty signs with LA, then I can put my rants to sleep.

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12788767)

:lol:lol:lol:lol

Stamkos was actually talking about all the offer sheet rumors yesterday. He said he got texts from people who photoshopped his face with Phil Kessel's body when he got traded to the Leafs. People actually believed it.

Originally Posted by MacGuyver (Post 12788773)

Just don't get why more people aren't up in arms about it. Anyway.

You know what I've never understood either about the Hall of Fame? That it's a hall of FAME, not a hall of HIGH STATISTICAL NUMBERS.

Always think of Paul Henderson because of this. Wildly popular, scored perhaps the biggest goal of all time, but had a relatively crappy career. But he was really, really famous because of the goal. Shouldn't he be in the hall of FAME?

Originally Posted by DmBand801 (Post 12786556)

I LOVE this hire.

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12786664)

Osgood playing on great teams doesn't make him a HOF'er. How many All-Star games was he in? How many Vezina trophies?

He won games with great teams in front of him. Was he a winner? Yes. Was he PERSONALLY good enough to be classified as a HOF'er? No, IMO.

Originally Posted by MacGuyver (Post 12788773)

Just don't get why more people aren't up in arms about it. Anyway.

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12788824)

News today: Wings officially announce they have signed Conklin. Perfect backup.

Originally Posted by MacGuyver (Post 12788773)

Just don't get why more people aren't up in arms about it. Anyway.

You know what I've never understood either about the Hall of Fame? That it's a hall of FAME, not a hall of HIGH STATISTICAL NUMBERS.

Always think of Paul Henderson because of this. Wildly popular, scored perhaps the biggest goal of all time, but had a relatively crappy career. But he was really, really famous because of the goal. Shouldn't he be in the hall of FAME?

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12788824)

Some people out there were like oh he's young he didn't do much and blah blah. He kept a FLA team in the playoff hunt while they were selling off their team. Not his fault they are a crap organization. My best comarission about the young coach thing was Mike Babcock was a rookie coach in 02-03. Enough said.

Ken Dryden. Great goalie but shit how many HOF's were on those teams? Sames goes for Sawchuck and Plante and others. Not saying he should for sure be in but but Dryden on the Scouts in the 70's he isn't who he is.

Up in arms because someone didn't throw a huge contract at him? I like everything he had to say. Seems like he wanted to stay. I wanted him to stay. If had left for a huge contract we would be getting into NBA territory and I don't want that. TBL needs him more than anyone else. Glad he stuck around and he knows he'll still get good money now and when he signs a long term one in 5 years. It's good for himself and probably good for what Yzerman wants to build there.

News today: Wings officially announce they have signed Conklin. Perfect backup.

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12788877)

That's why I think Eric Lindros should be in the Hall of Fame. The guy changed the perception of what a big man can do in the game. When he was healthy and in his prime, there was no stopping him.

Originally Posted by MacGuyver (Post 12789046)

I think you can make the strong argument that, especially in hockey, coaches get way too much credit, and way too much crap, when things go good and bad, respectively. If you have good players, they'll figure it out.

The Stammer thing, yeah, it wouldn't have worked, they would have just matched, he wants to stay in TBL, I understand, but why are there not even attempts to sign him. If teams came out and said, 'yeah we tried to offer him something but he said he wouldn't sign', that would be something. The fact no offer was even put his way in three weeks is just appalling.

I wonder if the PA is kind of pissed off, I mean, the more $$$ he gets the more $$$ they get.

Originally Posted by DynastyDrummer1 (Post 12789855)

Aww... Patrick Lalime is retiring. Looks like Buffalo needs a new guy to model their beanies everynight.

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12791492)

nhl.com is starting to post their "Summer with Stanley" vids, if anyone's interested:

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...d=35&id=121084

So far, it looks like they've got Kaberle and Krejci.

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12791542)

Doc Emerick going exclusively to NBC/Versus.

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12791542)

Doc Emerick going exclusively to NBC/Versus.

Originally Posted by DmBand801 (Post 12791547)

No. No. No. No. No.

Mother fucker :devil

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 12791766)

Doc has a great voice. He does mix up names a lot it seems, but I love listening to broadcasts when he is calling the game.

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 12791766)

Doc has a great voice. He does mix up names a lot it seems, but I love listening to broadcasts when he is calling the game.

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 12791861)

we went and visited Dustin Brown and family last night since they are back "home" for the summer. He threw on the CP dvd, we BSed a bit about Dave and such. Such a good guy.

On to Ranger news though - We signed Duby. PHEW! Now Cally..

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12791996)

You're lucky. Other than Wayne Simmonds, Dustin Brown would look good in a Flyers uniform. Definitely tell him to sign up though. We're all great guys, and we wouldn't give him grief. :lol:lol:lol

EDIT: Except Joe would probably tell him he sucks if they ever met in the SCF, and the Chicago boys would threaten to cut his balls off.

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12792056)

I wouldn't William Wallace him. Just whenever he came my way I would give him a nice warning of a nut shot

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12792189)

The ribbings we give each other in here are nothing compared to a hockey locker room... I can't imagine what an NHL one would be like. This would probably all seem like sissy talk to him.

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 12792225)

Yeah...I think he would be able to dish it back to you guys for sure. Also, not sure if this is public or what not (I don't read much into Kings news) but he told me they are apparently looking at Drury. Making Dustin nervous of losing his number, 23.