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OK was that one on purpose? Cause that's what she said.

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I figured, I've got a good thing going, why stop now...?


;)

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If the Panthers play the Devils, I think they can take them in a series.

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Ehhhhh. Panthers are just so not good. Easily going to be worst team in the playoffs, to me. Yeah yeah I know they have more pts than a team or two. But they aren't good. They have nobody in the same league as Kovalchuk and Parise. Devils, if anything, are underrated coming into this playoffs IMO.

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I repeat...they have 37 wins. They are entering the playoffs....below .500.

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That doesn't mean they can't win a series. 1993-94 Sharks were 33-35-16 and knocked off Detroit, led Toronto 3 games to 2 and hit a crossbar in OT of Game 6, and had dominated Vancouver that year. They could easily have been in the Finals against NYR.

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Yeah but looking at how SJ finished they only lost twice in the last 13 and only 5 times in the last 20. Not quite like the Panthers right now.

Oh and Bob Essensa sucked ass and Ozzie wasn't ready for prime time. A few years ago game 7 was on and I watched it, to throw up maybe, and thought wow that was bad.

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Fact that you have to back that far to find a mediocre team who made some noise kind of proves his point.

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:lol:lol

Main thing I remember about that game other than the misplay on the game-winner was Fedorov being a punk and going after I think it was Jay More near the end.

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Playoffs....almost here!!!

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Anyone know where I can watch old games?

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What ya looking for? Youtube has rather large selection of old games. The user NHLOnlineVideos has a lot. The NHL youtube account evne has some. I watched Patrick Roy's last game in Montreal on their channel.

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I know the game ultimately led to nowhere but I want to rewatch Game 7 against Boston. That game gets me so pumped I'll have to check YouTube when I get home

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I was at that game unfortunately. :lol

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZZ-x11y73c

here is the TSN feed of the first period. Looks like that guy has all 3 periods.

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You are the man! Thanks!

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NBC is blacked out here, and the local channels are showing the Devils, Islanders and knicks :BANG

Guess I can't watch the Rangers game...

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Duper!!!

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any idea when caps playoff tickets will be announced, tomorrow?

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hmmmm....no chance we get a shutout right????

40 min and Crawfish with the SO

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Looks like the Bruins have yet another awesome goalie.

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Dirty hit by Orpik. Very relieved Stepan is okay.

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OMG the Canucks are so close to being President Cup winners again :multi

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In case anyone is interested....

From AP:

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nope got to 56 minutes

Bullshit on Bickell...his goal was good

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Does Minnesota think that they have a rivalry with the Hawks or something? Dude's getting slashed, head-butted, and cross-checked for no apparent reason...

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well they do have dirty Heatley

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Heatley's dirty?


Oh, and bye-bye Stars. Sharks playoff magic number is 1, and Colorado's trailing by 2 after 2.

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RIP Sabres season....

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Hahaha Thornton just fought Doughty, and kicked his ass.


EDIT: But they gave Thornton an extra penalty, and it was already 4-on-4 so it's a 4-on-3, which I hate.

EDIT II: Because it's too easy to score on :BANG

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And now they miss an easy call against the Kings. Someone wants L.A. to be division champs.

EDIT: And another fight, and another extra two on our guy. Awesome.

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Yay LA!! (Dustin just lost his cousin, thru marriage, the other day. 21 year old marine, was a victim of a suicide bomber in Afghanistan.) I couldn't imagine playing right now.

http://mobile.syracuse.com/advsyra/p...3VObOF&rwthr=0

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Pens!!!!

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Torts called the Pens an "arrogant organization". :lol :lol :lol

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Gotta say though, despite calls I find less than impressive, Sharks are being outplayed right now and probably deserve to be down 1-0.

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:lol I love torts.

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That's probably accurate. Best player of all time owns the team and the best coach in the league coaches the best players in the league.

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Pretty much this. Torts was also whining about Sid and Geno's whining. Lots of whining right there. Torts was :rattle

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Lol at best player of all time. Loved 66 but come on now.

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...and I'm going to kill Kyle Clifford if Cooch misses a single playoff game.

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I'd take Lemieux over anyone. No homer.

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So let's do the break down: Rangers own the Flyers as of late. Flyers own the Pens as of late. Pens own the Rangers as of late.

Sounds like a playoff fun formula to me.

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If he's below 99, it's not by that much. If Gretzky gets cancer in the middle of the season, I don't think he scores 160 points and wins the scoring title in that same season. That stat will always blow my mind.

Edit: ^ Transitive property (maybe?) for the win! Though if the Pens fall to the Flyers, the Rangers likely wouldn't get the Flyers until Round 3, because I do not see the Devils falling to the Panthers. But it's the playoffs! Crazy shite happens.

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Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe, Maurice Richard...to name a few others.

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The greatest to ever play, no doubt. Though given the first choice in an all-time fantasy draft, I still might pick Lemieux. I'll readily admit my bias because he is the reason the Pens continue exist, and I saw him play in person, a lot. He had all the skills and intangibles in just the right combination. He just didn't have the health, between a rare bone disease, a horrific back and Hodgkin's disease. He only played in 915 regular season games.

Though when you get to the level of greatness of a Gretzky, Lemieux, Howe, Orr, I find it hard to rank. They're all really freaking great.

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Just noticed that Montreal has 76 points with a goal differential of -17, while Florida has 92 points with a goal differential of -27. How does that happen?

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florida has a ton of OT losses

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Hawks are locked into the 6th seed now. If LA wins tonight in regulation it means we can't play San Jose in the first round and its down to LA or Phoenix. Looking more and more like we're gonna play LA in the first round.

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Hawks would still take 5th with a win in regulation over Detroit. It would tie the two teams in points and ROW, and Hawks hold head-to-head tiebreaker. Personally, I hope we get to 100 pts and beat the Wings in OT. Let them face the Preds, I'd rather see LA/Phx/SJ.

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Crazy crazy game. 5-5 in OT right now. Thornton and Clowe both get Gordie Howe Hat Trick, and Clowe just played the puck away from Stoll while he was on the bench and didn't get caught. :lol

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Sharks win in shootout, now if Phoenix loses to the Blues tomorrow, Saturday's LA@SJ game will be for the Pacific title and the 3 seed.

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the deathly hallows?!

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Yeah going to be an exciting finish! Feel proud of the sharks tonight esepically after such a frustating season. Showed some fight which was needed. Can't wait for the game against l.a coming up

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Lollertorts. Whining about whining

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really? you have the biggest pussy in the nhl that gets hit and bitches right to the head ref right away. same with malk, dont talk about whinning. hes correct in every statement he made. it was a scrub hit from a spoonfed pussy of an organization.

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Maybe he should be more worried about the play of his team. He loves crying to the media. All im hearing is wahh wahh whahhh.

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Lemieux as the greatest of all time :lol Yea he is amazing and what he did back in 1993 is unheard of. I think we should be lucky that gocubs doesn't have something against Lemieux or there would have been a ridiculous thread about how he faked cancer.

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As for the Lemieux vs. Gretzky debate, I've always fell on the side of Mario and that is surely no knock on Gretzky. Kind of hard to knock the Great One. Wayne's numbers were absolutely ridiculous but he did play in the biggest offensive era in NHL history. Gretzky also never won anything without Messier and played with one of the biggest collections of talent in expansion era.

Mario, meanwhile put up superhuman numbers early on playing with the likes of Rob Brown and Wendell Young, not Kurri, Messier and Coffey. IF he remained healthy, his numbers would be a lot better and would loved to have seen where he wound up. And the last 1/3rd of his career was during the trap and clutch & grab era. He was still dominant.

Off the ice, yeah Mario saved the Penguins but by Wayne going to LA, he saved that franchise and enabled the NHL to expand and make hockey work in so many other markets the NHL never dreamed it could expand to. Sort of a wash.

I'm a Mario guy. Watched that five goal game live vs the Rags back in 1993. Amazing. How my Islanders beat him and that team to deny them the chance for a 3 peat sadly remains the highlight of my Islander fandom. Was just a little too young for those cups teams. What a series.

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the play of our team? coming from the guy who's franchise is based on a scrambled egg of a brain in cuntsby? id say see you late in the push, but the pens wont be around. Its not crying, its sticking up for your team. he did it to get the boys fired up with a game left before it starts to matter. and just calls a spade a spade.

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Yes. The play of your team last night was bad. When was the last time the rags even made it out of the first round? It is crying. Your coach bitches about everything. Watch more than two games a season before you start talking trash.

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Yikes Rangers fans may be a bit over confident for a team that hasnt done anything in the playoffs in a long time.

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Late to the lol torts discussion. "Whining stars" Would love to watch as celebrity death match torts/lavy vs. Bylsma. Bring on the playoffs!

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No, the Rangers have not played well in the post season, as of late. But, we are a different team. Since we are talking about the past....the last time Rangers had 50+ wins in a season was 1994. Just sayin' :)

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2 games? hahaha. ive been to 24 home games, you scrub. the rangers have a base of young talent..sound familiar? difference? your built for pussy puck. remember we clinched the number 1 seed acouple days ago? how important was last night? zero. meaningless. FYI, torts doesnt give a fuck about the presidents. this is classic, btw, coming from a pen's fan. number one bandwagon team in the usa. sorry ive stuck with my shitty ass rangers my whole life. if i had a part in the team and how they've faired in the playoffs the last decade, id try harderz :lorraine

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Torts has bitched about his own worthless owner. he just says whats on his mind. "bitching" about a major and misconduct? thats hilarious..thats "bitching" ok buddy.

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Wings choked that away. Sadly the game against the Hawks deterimnes a lot. Wings could still be 6th. Not like it matters since I think they are done in round 1.

And our talk of the Devils yesterday if it's them at the panthers they will kill them for sure.

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:lol:lol:lol Big hoss is :rattle

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oh the playoffs are gonna be funnnnnn.

love my hockey boys in here :)

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yes sir, its been alittle bit since ive been in here. but seems it'll bring some good convo during the playoffs.

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bandwagon brad. good ring to it ;)

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i'm a ma'am. don't let my sexy avatar fool you.

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Anybody who has a Chris Jericho avatar is okay in my book.

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Yea. That is me. I didnt even know about hockey until 2007.

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Female Kittens is the only girl in here and seems to be PMSing the least.

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:lol :lol. Gotta love resorting to personal attacks.

I'm so happy every game will be broadcasted during the playoffs.

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Lol. I always think youre kittens from your avatar

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seriously "im not a fan because i dont watch 82 games a year". i hate my life. and my e-cock.

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Same, though now i gotta find csnbc on my tv haha

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This thread is going to be great in about a week and a half.

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there better be a csnbc hd channel.

Lol wut??

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good to see reads cut the throats of the sabers last night. the phantoms play here where i live. he was crazy during his 5 games with us last year, scored like 9 goals in his first 5 professional games. knew that was the last we'd see of him after that.

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He's probably been the biggest surprise for the Flyers this season. It happens a lot where college players light the lamp in the AHL, but often times don't find the net in the NHL.

Read's speed (say that five times fast) is incredible and allows him to get chances like he did last night.

blololololol ryan miller

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Hoping the CNBC talent is calling the games. ;)

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If I had my choice this would not be my avatar. But, I am glad I get your approval!

Get back at me in a week or so.

;)
:monkey can't wait for the lololbrohan talk

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As always the "best ever" conversation is an extremely difficult, almost fruitless conversation to have, although it is fun to debate. The reason why is the different eras in which they played. Gordie Howe would not be as productive in today's NHL as he was in his era, nor would Gretzky (although I'm the first to admit they'd be pretty amazing because of the passion they brought to the game and their natural skillsets, i.e. Gretzky's uncanny vision).

To me, it comes down to two things when deciding best ever:
1) How would their game translate to other hockey eras. Would they still be effective?
2) What have they done for the game, aside from statistical production?

The Rocket, IMO, was the first real flashy superstar of the NHL. He took the game to a whole new level with his style of play and even the grit with which he played. He was an all-around hockey player if there ever was one. Gordie Howe really pioneered the power forward role. Gretzky completely turned the game upside down... defensive and goaltending styles adapted essentially because of what he brought. Hockey's major expansion into the US, particularly out west, can be directly traced to his move to LA. Lemieux built on that and was such a dynamic, unimaginable force because of his combination of size and speed.

To me, though, it comes down to Bobby Orr. Completely changed the way the game was played by showing that defensemen could participate in the offense. Other teams had to adapt to try and stop him, which has evolved into the team defensive schemes you see today. The idea of a skating defensemen who not only came within the blue line but participated offensively was almost unheard of before then. Not only that, but he was a dandy player in his own end as well.

Also, I'm convinced Bobby Orr would still be pretty effective in today's NHL. Players are bigger and faster, thus making Orr more containable, but I think his natural skills would still make him a force even today.

Just my unsolicited, Friday morning two cents :)

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Oh, and I hate the Avalanche.

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Cant wait for pens/flyers!!

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:lol:lol:lol:lol I don't know if gocubs even recognizes hockey as a sport, so I think we're ok.

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im actually going to push as rinaldo for the biggest surprise. he's a goon, but has actually contributed offensively. last year against albany, first period, he got 3 5 for fighting's game misconduct and a 3 game suspension. looked like adam sandler on skates. but he lost some weight, and showed he actually wanted to better his talent..or lack of.

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http://espn.go.com/losangeles/video/clip?id=7782005

:lol:lol:lol Ryan Clowe's response + sly grin = priceless

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That's pretty funny, but the refs should not have missed that.

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what type of penalty would that even be considered? never come across that before in my few years of watching

edit: Post 8888!

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I didn't start following hockey until Crosby was all over the news with his concussions.

:trap

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Probably unsportsmanlike conduct. I don't think its too many men because hes not on the ice.

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i did some research

Rule 56 - Interference

56.3 Bench Minor Penalty - A bench minor penalty shall be imposed when an unidentifiable player on the players’ bench or penalty bench or any Coach or non-playing Club personnel who, by means of his stick or his body, interferes with the movements of the puck or any opponent on the ice during the progress of the play.

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I believe it would be called as an Interference penalty if I remember correctly... but I've never had to make a call like that, so I'm not completely sure. :lol

EDIT: Yep, it's interference: http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26348

EDIT 2: Sorry Cry Minarets, you beat me to it.

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no worries...yeah, i wasn't sure if it'd be interference or too many men on the ice...oh well.

ps tort's press conference after the game was funny. everyone bitches in hockey. of course everyone is going to hear about the penguins bitching when they have two of the biggest stars in the league and are a very popular organization. :lol but, Orpik is one of my favorite players from the AHL and I will even admit that that wasn't the brightest play I've ever seen.

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Pens are in everyone's head. It's fantastic.

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I've been reffing for almost ten years, and if that happened on my watch, I'd definitely have to go to the score table and thumb through the rule book a bit. Few things are more embarrassing than that. :lol

I'm a big fan of Orpik, definitely don't think he's the villain guys like Biron made him out to be in his post-game comments, but that hit was definitely dangerous. I've watched it a few times and it's tough to tell if it was intentional or not, but the fact remains that it was dangerous and could have been avoided. Deserving of the penalty he got.