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Yeah since both teams have done such a great job of meeting expectations the past few seasons!

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NYR will fare waaaaayyyyy better under AV than Vancouver will with Torts at the helm.

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Yes, because AV has a great track record of being successful in the playoffs :confused

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Where are you? I'm in Barrie (about an hour north of Toronto)

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He said nothing about the playoffs just said they Rangers would be better with AV than the Canucks will be with Torts. He's right I think.

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in honor of you guys, I want to make my blog name in accordance to Giroux, Fata, and Daigle. Anyone got creative names for a blog?

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Fagirougle.

You're welcome.

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My assumption was just that the success of both of these franchises really is measured by if they do or do not win a Cup. I don't think either will be considered a success if they do anything short of winning a Cup.

Just thought the playoffs part was implied. And I don't think either will be tremendously successful, but if I had to vote on one, I'd pick Torts and the Canucks, as much as it pains me.

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19! 19! 19! 19! 19! 19! 19!

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I was thinking along the lines of Giroux to Fata to Daigle.

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Oh, well in that case, you should probably incorporate something about 19!

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Giroux to Fata to Daigle 19!

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:lol:lol

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I just want to say....I love my avatar/user title.

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Is your blog going to be in any way satirical/sarcastic in nature? If so, I would humbly suggest:

"Eh... Not Good Enough"

If not, I really don't see how you can go wrong with Fagirougle.

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I was also thinking about "Skate in the Crease" and "Claude Giroux's magical mittens"

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What kind of blog will it be? Flyers, NHL, satire, news, opinion?

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Someone called WFAN in NY today and asked about the rangers new coach "Allen Vino".

Classic NY sports talk.

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All Hail, FOD!

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Not as great as Jeremy Jaguar... I had a customer in my liquor store say that two summers ago. Amazing. :lol

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I really cannot see Tortorella working very well in Vancouver. This is going to be a trainwreck.

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It will be news and opinion with a little snark. Most importantly, just sorting out twitter reports--think Spector's hockey.

I'll also get into Free agency, the draft, and just general history.

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:lol:lol:lol:lol

http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2013...ody-nhl-satire

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^ :lol :lol Pretty much.

My favorite line: "The Flyers have coveted everybody for quite some time, and could be willing to part with anybody in order to acquire everybody."

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down in the bottom, there's a link that says: "report: after acquiring everybody, the Flyers decide to buy everyone out." :lol :lol

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http://skateinthecrease.weebly.com/l...--updates.html

boom. There we go.

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You doubled up on some numbers in your active point total list

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Yeah, I know. I'm trying to figure out Weebly.

by the way, anyone who wants to help me with general history certainly can. It's not going to be as extensive as hockey reference, but I at least want to make it sleek and easy to find some information.

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http://flames.nhl.com/club/gallery.htm?id=36968

Crazy pics from the Saddledome.

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Holy shit! :eek

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The Flames are so bad even the Saddledome has had enough.

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So Bernier to the Leafs. Hey Reimer thanks for helping us come back from down 3-1 and almost beat the Bruins but you're our backup now.

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:lol:lol

That pretty much sums it up. What a strange move by the Leafs.

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And I saw a tweet the other day Reimer has more career starts and better stats. I know Bernier has been a backup to one of the best in the league but still a big gamble since he hasn't proven anything yet. Whatever. It's a good pickup just weird. Whether or not they think Bernier is the #1 now or it'll play out in camp I'll wonder how Reimer will handle it.

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While the circumstances that caused this are no laughing matter, this is fucking gold!

Sounds like dressing rooms, video board control room, tons of priceless memorabilia and others are completely lost. The good news is that the Flames were/are already close to announcing a new deal for a new barn, so hopefully they can fast-track that a bit.

Saw a hilarious tweet to the effect of "If the Saddledome can't be used, I know of an arena in Glendale that will be free" :lol

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Too late for an edit, but pics from inside the Saddledome.
http://deadspin.com/the-flames-vow-t...ium=socialflow

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That's some dirty ass water too. Gotta be a lovely smell in there right now.

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We all know that I was very impressed with Bernier this season and I'm excited for him to get some more opportunities. As for Reimer, I didn't watch many Leafs games, aside from the post season. Even in the times that he played good, he looked bad - didn't seem to know where the puck was half the time, gave up too many rebounds and wasn't always set up properly. It seemed like a lot of his saves were mere luck. That said, I was impressed with watching him turn his game around that series.

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Backstrom re-signs in Minny for $3.42mil a year. That's a good deal...if he's healthy.

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Not a bad deal at all

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RIP Harvey the Hound
https://twitter.com/ampcalgary/statu...438528/photo/1

#1 Suspect is MacT.

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I feel bar for Reimer. He played well and was a major reason the leafs made it into the post season. I hope he uses the Bernier trade as a means of getting better over the off-season and blowing Bernier out of the water come training camp and throughout the season. Reimer is such a good guy. He's polite, well-spoken, humble, quick to laugh.

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I feel bad for them both. They both deserve a shot at being the clear #1 somewhere. That hell hole (no offense Troy) of an organization is going to eat alive two good guys and great goaltenders.

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I don't think it's a hell hole of an organization and I keep holding out hope that with the change from MLSE to Rogers/Bell they will be more likely to use the extensive resources at their disposal. It has the chance to be the greatest sports franchise in hockey, but they just seem to keep fucking it up every time.

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Just try and get the Flyers to trade for Reimer, I am sure they probably want to now

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Now there are some rumblings that Phaneuf is in play.

If they move Phaneuf for a center or anything else other than another D-man we have a problem. Getting rid of him (the rumour I heard from RDS was to the Avalanche for one of their centers) would create a HUGE hole on the D. Phaneuf definitely has his faults but generally he gives 23-25 quality minutes every night. Getting rid of him would create a very poor back end. In my mind, he is a top 2 d-man on essentially every team.

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This is what I heard as well, with the Avs side listing Stastny (obviously) as their piece in play. Not incredibly sure how I feel about this... On one hand, it addresses needs for both teams. On the other hand, both players have been quite inconsistent the past couple seasons.

However, I'm hearing more and more rumblings about the Avs going for McKinnon instead of the Jones in the draft. As much as this pisses me off, it lends more credence to the Stastny/Phaneuf rumors. Needless to say, I'm pretty anxious for draft day to roll around.

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I would kind of freak out if that was the deal. I don't see that as being close value in the slightest ( Cap hits are similar but that is it). Phaneuf in my mind contributes more to the team. If it's a straight up deal there is a huge problem here.

Stastny is a 3rd liner on that team. He's a good Centre with a high skill level but he doesn't get a straight up deal for Phaneuf. The guy is a quality top 2 d-man and our Captain. I couldn't imagine that being the deal. It would have to be a much bigger package than Phaneuf for Stastny but I can't even think about what that would include.

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let the offseason begin!

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Bruins fans can come join us now :lol:lol

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Over/Under on how many girls Kane chokes tonight?

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Would be gold if a bruins fan tried to get some from him and he says "Ehhhhh...not good enough."

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Will miss Bickel next year

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this thread is official now. woohoo

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I was thinking, he's been quiet since everyone was talking about his big contract he'll get...then that happens. He's gone for sure unless he takes a lot less than some stupid team will offer him.

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Bobrovsky has an offer on the table from a KHL team per CBS sports.

If the Jackets don't sign him they should just abolish the franchise.

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Man, the other thread is a mess.

Let silly season officially begin! When is Bryz getting bought out?

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Rumors are he might not now but with being over the cap and the term of that deal I'm not sure how you don't.

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@EricOnSportsLaw
Playing 58% of games, NHL generated 72% of 2011-12 season revenue; Danny Heatley knows something about playing 58% of games.

This is why we'll continue to get locked out at the end of every CBA boys and girl. The NHL was not hurt at all by this lockout.

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I disagree, it's good that they were able to generate more revenue/game but they still lost almost 30% of the revenue that a full regular season would have produced. If you consider the amount of money that was being fought over during the lockout, losing 30% of a full season's revenue is pretty significant.

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Yes they lost 28% of 2012's revenue but missed 42% of the games. So per game they actually made more money than last year. So that means they'll surpass 2012's revenues in 2014 and now they'll get 50% of that instead of 43%. So missing 42% of a season gains you money not even a year after doing it, why would the NHL not try again?

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I'm not ready to jump to the conclusion that there will be a repeat next year. I think the shorter season makes it easier to get fans into the arenas/watching games and they basically had every big market team contending.

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That's true and possible. But think about all the outdoor games happening next year. The Winter Classic alone would have given a huge boost to revenue next season and now they'll have even more of those. Also can be used for this year too. Lost only 28% of revenue in a half season without your biggest money maker.

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I gotta say, as much as I despise Gary Bettman--what's he done for hockey, right or wrong, has been nothing short of a miracle.

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I hate how he comes off as such a little prick, but the league overall is better than before he took over. Money-wise they are obviously better. Have a better tv deal (granted it took starting on OLN to do it) things like the Lindros to Philly/NYR fiasco from 92 wouldn't happen today. He's done some stupid things like Coyotes and letting the Whalers move to Greensboro while the arena in Raleigh was being built. They were a cluster-fuck of a league before he took over.

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Respectfully disagree, my friend. After watching Stastny play most of career, I can say that when he's on his game, Stastny is a top tier talent who could easily slide into the 2C spot. He's got the talent to be a first-line center, but not sure that's really his role any more. His biggest issue is his offensive inconsistency; he's got a good shot and is an above-average passer with very soft hands, but he disappears for stretches. However, he always works hard and is responsible in all three zones. He'll go to the front of the net and into the corners, and he'd probably find himself playing on your 2nd PK unit. Because of his work ethic, he's been an effective leader on the young Avs.

I am not doubting Phaneuf's talent by any means. My perpetual boner for quality NHL defensemen is no secret in these parts, and Phaneuf has the talent to be one of the top defensemen in the league. However, like Stastny he is notoriously inconsistent. His bomb of a shot and penchant for big hits are offset by costly miscues that seem to have been a part of his game going back to his Calgary days. Some have also questioned his attitude, which to his credit has seemed to improve the past couple seasons as he's been a leader on his team. Examining both players, I would easily say both players have just about equal value right now at this point in their careers. Both (especially Stastny) may benefit from a fresh start somewhere else.

What has been the biggest downfall for the Avs the past 4 seasons? Inconsistent defense. I don't believe the Avs will overpay to get yet another inconsistent defenseman. Could they use Phaneuf? Absolutely. He's still got potential to be a superstar d-man. In fact, I can see him playing really well with a steady, reliable d-man like Erik Johnson. If they do get him, I do not believe they will offer multiple assets. Of course, I'm already starting to question the Avs' mettle with all these rumors of them going after McKinnon instead of Jones in the draft...

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And he's got one of the best looking girlfriends around. That's gotta count for something....right?

The Sakic not taking Jones is still bugging me. McKinnon THAT much better than Jones that you take him? You take the best guy available when the next guy in your position of need isn't close. Jones by all accounts is going to be fantastic and the Avs need help on the blue line.

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Yeah, my disgust for this rumor is well documented, so I won't say too much more about it. I'd HOPE that if they do take McKinnon, it's because they already have a deal in place to bring in at least one really good defenseman. But even still, why not completely shore up the D by drafting Jones and acquiring another via trade (ie Phaneuf for Stastny)? Gah.

I'd maybe throw in a 5th rounder with the deal just for the fact that Dion would be bringing Elisha to Denver. :thumbsup

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Welcome to this thread Blackhawks fans! We can now officially join the offseason talk.

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Slightly off topic but for the guys who still play, how often do you get your skates sharpened?

I read something that said after 8 hours of skating but I feel like that's only if they are sharpened perfectly. I'm assuming the guy in the back of my local sporting goods store isn't doing a professional job.

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The who will give Bickell stupid money talk.

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I sharpen my skates every 6-7 times out there. It's not an exact science, sometimes I sharpen them after 3 or 4 sessions and sometimes I do it after 11 or 12 sessions, but generally I try to after every 6 games or so.

Also, find a good place to do it. Your rink should be able to do it for you, and probably does a better job than your local sporting goods store. Nothing worse than a pair of poorly sharpened skates.

I get mine sharpened to a 1/2" hollow. Would never trust that to some guy at Dick's Sporting Goods.

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I can't wait for someone to pay him $4+ million and get 8 goals a season.

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How often do you play? With me only playing 1-2 times a week, I sharpen mine about once a month. When I'm reffing a lot, I'll usually do it twice a month, but that's just because when you're reffing you're on the ice the WHOLE time.

But it all comes down to preference and how you feel on your skates. I know guys who NEVER seem to sharpen their skates and can still fly out there, and then I also know guys who can't go a week. Do what feels good, man.

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Definitely do this.

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He deserves a raise based off what he's done and he's the kind of guy you want for the playoffs...but yeah not at the money someone will give him. These GM's need to look at it this way. He's scored 18 goals in 2 years. Is he worth $4mil to give me 10 goals on the off chance he might have a great playoff and help me? Sometimes these guys just click at the right time or are a product of a system. Leino is a great example. Martin Lapointe is another. Scored 27 goals in 2001 and he get's $5mil a year and only scored 25 goals the following 2 years combined.

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Darren McCarty, anyone?

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Yeah they do it at the rink I play at so I'll take them there.

I'm playing 2-3 times per week right now. I just remember in high school we had a guy that sharpened our skates pretty much after every game and I have no idea what I did during youth hockey :lol


Thanks for the advice guys. Hard to believe the best place I've found for NHL talk and hockey advice is a DMB board :lol

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Even Mac never got a stupid raise like that. Would have had he left during 2003 when he was a UFA. Still got more than what a guy like him was worth but he did it well here. My guess is he wouldn't have other places.

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Nice :thumbsup. Again, do what feels comfortable. Based on how much you're playing, I'd suggest maybe twice a month.

And yeah, we've got a really good thing going here. Great hawkey tawk and good friendships that have formed because of it. :thumbsup

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that other thread got really shitty once the people who arent regulars started posting.

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Good to have you in the thread. Chances Crosby misses the outdoor game against the Hawks next year? I'd say 90%.

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Wow, that's pretty optimistic for you.

I'd go with closer to 100%.

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I didnt want to be too bold.

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And Malkin won't be there, as he'll be a member of the Sabres by this time. ;)

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MAF will be on the Avs. Maybe Letang too. Definitely Tanner Glass.

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Definitely Glass.:thumbsup. Letang is looking more and more like a viable option with the McKinnon rumblings. Care for a David Jones?

Don't even joke about MAF.

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Jones would probably look nice on Crosbys wing. Everything I've read and heard has the Pens wanting a pick, a d-man, and a forward for Letang. Think the Staal deal last year. But probably better because guys like Letang don't grow on trees. Add in the fact that Staal was really ever going to go to Carolina and i think a Letang deal has the makings of being big. I feel like with the right coaching, Tanger could grow into one of the best pmd in the league. He is a classic case of a guy who has the tools but is missing the tool box.

As an aside, anyone have any bold predictions for the draft? I think the pens, if a deal isnt reached by then, deal Letang. Philly moves Read for a goalie. Avs end up 'fooling' everyone and taking Jones.

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I would mind Letang on the Wings. He would help them out a lot. I'd give up next years first rounder but not this years. The Wings are a team that hasn't picked in the top-20 too often and in a deep draft I wouldn't give that up.

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:thumbsup Agree with pretty much all of this, including your assessment of Letang.

If the Avs do not select Jones, I wouldn't be surprised to see them make their deal for a d-man during the draft. Stastny would be the centerpiece I'm guessing, with guys like Letang and Phaneuf primary targets.

MAF and Malkin to BUF for Miller, Myers, Stafford, and a pick.

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Well, now that the crap shortened season is over....time to move on to the first real NHL season since the lockout!

Rangers and Nucks trade coaches. Should be interesting to see who has more success!

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Hope Torts can control himself in Vancouver. You might not like the media but they are just doing their jobs.

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Buh-bye Bryz.

LOLuongo to Flyers (just guessing)

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That doesn't help their cap situation. They need to go cheap and short term.

Bryz needed to get out of Philly. He just never seemed to fit there and really hasn't played well. Now that's another guy we'll have to see where he goes.

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His buyout paycheck is humangous big. Gotta be one of the happiest guys in the NHL that didn't win a Stanley Cup. Laughing all the way to the bank.

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Steve Mason era begins in Philly.

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Seems like Bryz would do better on a smaller market team. Send him to one of the Florida teams and watch him shine.

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This assumes Holmgren uses logic when making deals. I'm basing my guess off of historical facts.

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hahaha, oh man. Philly media is going nuts over the Bryz buyout. Talking as much shit as they can right now it seems.

https://twitter.com/RandyJMiller

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