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lockman21 10-30-2013 10:08 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Matt, don't worry, you can have Khabibulin free of charge!

lockman21 10-31-2013 05:06 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
12:00pm MT MAJOR UPDATE: (DISCLAIMER: innocent till proven guilty) However this interview w/ Varlamov's GF's laywer looks pretty bad for him if true.

•Reporter says she claims Varlamov "beat her in a drunken rage"
•States assaults like this have happened in the past
•States Varlamov "spent Monday afternoon drinking excessively" and that the assault happened Tuesday (29 Oct) Morning.
•"He threw her into the wall, she went to the floor, and then he was stomping on her, and that's what caused the bruising and damage" -GF's laywer
•"This time Evee (spelling?) said to us, that's it, go lock him up" -GF's laywer
•Reporter says that his GF was hospitalized due to her injuries

TMoore4075 10-31-2013 05:29 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 14891434)
12:00pm MT MAJOR UPDATE: (DISCLAIMER: innocent till proven guilty) However this interview w/ Varlamov's GF's laywer looks pretty bad for him if true.

•Reporter says she claims Varlamov "beat her in a drunken rage"
•States assaults like this have happened in the past
•States Varlamov "spent Monday afternoon drinking excessively" and that the assault happened Tuesday (29 Oct) Morning.
•"He threw her into the wall, she went to the floor, and then he was stomping on her, and that's what caused the bruising and damage" -GF's laywer
•"This time Evee (spelling?) said to us, that's it, go lock him up" -GF's laywer
•Reporter says that his GF was hospitalized due to her injuries

Holy crap. On a real life point of view if true WTF? That's just crazy. On a hockey point of view. Miller or Hiller?

Rebecca De Mornay 10-31-2013 05:33 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 14891124)
I hope the arresting officer is BOBROVSKY and this is all a joke.

:lol:lol

seriously though that is fucked up.

~Crashintome89~ 10-31-2013 06:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HallowBillies7 (Post 14891374)
God I love the Bruins, but I can get over this loss with Sox winning it all.

Why do the Pens own us in the regular season all the time? I don't get it

Your team swept the Pens last season, your baseball team won the world series at home for the first time in 95 years and you can't get over a meaningless regular season loss in hockey?

#firstworldproblems

barbogast 10-31-2013 06:22 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Guess I'll go ahead and jump in here with the Varly news.

What. The. Fuck.

And up till now I really thought the Caps screwed up big time by letting that guy go. What a crazy story

lockman21 10-31-2013 06:39 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
I hope the Avs get Ryan Miller.

fonzz41 10-31-2013 06:44 AM

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If all that is true, screw him. He can go straight to hell. Absolutely despicable.

Rebecca De Mornay 10-31-2013 06:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 14891564)
I hope the Avs get Ryan Miller.

yeah, now that this has gone down it's easily the best fit for him.

fonzz41 10-31-2013 06:57 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 14891564)
I hope the Avs get Ryan Miller.

Like I said yesterday, I hope they've already got Darcy on the phone. Give him a couple draft picks and either Stefan Elliott or Tyson Barrie (2 dmen prospects that are essentially the same). Don't care.

Rebecca De Mornay 10-31-2013 06:58 AM

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Avs should give the Sabres Varlamov. Sounds like he'd get along well with John Scott.

swordo84 10-31-2013 07:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 14891579)
If all that is true, screw him. He can go straight to hell. Absolutely despicable.

No one will disagree with this.

lockman21 10-31-2013 07:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 14891616)
Avs should give the Sabres Varlamov. Sounds like he'd get along well with John Scott.

Come on, man.

Rebecca De Mornay 10-31-2013 07:22 AM

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I know, you love John Scott.

I don't want to criminalize Varlamov until he's found guilty. But if any of that is true he's a massive piece of shit.

Bron Yr Aur 10-31-2013 07:36 AM

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If Avs get desperate and give up a lot for Ryan Miller they are making a huge mistake. I still don't think they are a real contender and they will likely see quite a bit of regression no matter who is in goal.

fonzz41 10-31-2013 08:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 14891698)
If Avs get desperate and give up a lot for Ryan Miller they are making a huge mistake. I still don't think they are a real contender and they will likely see quite a bit of regression no matter who is in goal.

It would not be desperation and I don't think they would overpay with how tight fisted they have proven to be recently.

Regression? Well, yeah I don't think anyone expects the to stay at a 10-1 pace all year.

salrx95 10-31-2013 08:40 AM

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What's up the Flyers??. Them and some other costumes.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/...umes-1.2289183

lockman21 10-31-2013 09:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 14891698)
If Avs get desperate and give up a lot for Ryan Miller they are making a huge mistake. I still don't think they are a real contender and they will likely see quite a bit of regression no matter who is in goal.

http://youtu.be/_uHBFiAnpZs

Bron Yr Aur 10-31-2013 09:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 14891974)

You don't just go from being worst team in the NHL to one of the best overnight. Especially not when you are a pretty poor puck possession team.

swordo84 10-31-2013 09:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 14892050)
You don't just go from being worst team in the NHL to one of the best overnight. Especially not when you are a pretty poor puck possession team.

While I would normally agree with you on this point (and for the most part do) the Boston Redsox give me pause on this thought.

I know, different sport etc, but something to bear in mind.

bonzo48280 10-31-2013 09:42 AM

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the inevitable 12-game pointless streak by Colorado is going to be a real hoot.

swordo84 10-31-2013 09:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 14892059)
the inevitable 12-game pointless streak by Colorado is going to be a real hoot.

Lol, them having to ride Giguere will not turn out well I suspect. If Varlamov is going to be gone for a while, they'll have to deal for a 'tender.

lockman21 10-31-2013 09:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 14892050)
You don't just go from being worst team in the NHL to one of the best overnight. Especially not when you are a pretty poor puck possession team.

Dear Bron,

Watch the 2006-2007 Chicago Blackhawks.

Then watch the 2007-2008/2008-2009 Chicago Blackhawks.

Watch the 2005-2006 Pittsburgh Penguins.

Then watch the 2006-2007 Pittsburgh Penguins.

Watch the 2006-2007 Philadelphia Flyers.

Then watch the 2007-2008 Philadelphia Flyers.

Watch the 2011-2012 Montreal Canadiens.

Then watch the 2012-2013 Montreal Canadiens.

Shall I keep going? Because I can keep going.

From,

Chris

lockman21 10-31-2013 09:46 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 14892050)
You don't just go from being worst team in the NHL to one of the best overnight. Especially not when you are a pretty poor puck possession team.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmIgd8v0xwE

Bron Yr Aur 10-31-2013 09:50 AM

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08-09 Blackhawks, under Q, were one of the best puck possession teams in the NHL. Avs are still one of the worst, despite their record. Their turnaround has been based on luck and a hot goaltender more than anything else.

lockman21 10-31-2013 09:58 AM

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Dude, give up the advanced stats. For fuck's sake. I literally just shoved your argument down your throat and you still can't give it up.

That have a SHIT ton of talent. Especially offensively. With young teams, this shit happens. All the sudden shit clicks. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Another great example? The 2001-2002 Lightning. AWFUL team. Absolutely dreadful. The following year they are the #3 seed in the playoffs and then the next they won the Stanley Cup.

Young kids are going to make mistakes. They are going to turn the puck over, and make dumb plays in the neutral zone. But they are getting shit done. Bottom line, they are winning hockey games and doing it in convincing fasion. Have you watched an Avalanche game, or are you just spouting shit from your advanced stats (that NO ONE cares about)?

Are they going to win the Stanley Cup? Probably not. But they are a young team showing a hell of a lot of promise under new direction from Roy. They showed glimpses of it last season (see the Blackhawks first regulation loss), and are really putting something together now. Duchene looks absolutely phenominal, Landeskog is one of the best young captains in the game, Tanguay is making things happen...they have the same markup of the young Blackhawks, Lightning, Penguins, etc. before things just came together. A bunch of incredibly talented young forwards that just need experience and seasoning before they are really scary. In case you all don't remember (I don't know why you would), I've been riding high on the Avs for a couple years now, saying they are on the cusp of being the next Blackhawks (along with the Oil, who will get there soon).

Bringing in Miller for a couple prospects and draft picks would be a GREAT move. After this Varlamov nonsense, they need to show the team and the fans that they are really committed to winning. Put butts in the seats, drive up revenue, give yourself as a team more spending money in the offseason to make some splashes, and get this ball rolling. You don't just start 10-1-0 with a core like this and throw in the towel because "your puck possession stats aren't that great". There is a HELL of a lot more to a game like hockey than what your puck possession numbers look like.

Keep judging talent and teams by an excel spreadsheet. It's working wonders for you.

lockman21 10-31-2013 10:07 AM

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I can't believe that I just provided 4 or 5 examples 100% disproving that "teams just don't go from one of the worst to one of the best overnight" and your answer is that the Hawks had Coach Q and awesome puck possession.

Amazing.

fonzz41 10-31-2013 10:15 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 14892120)
Dude, give up the advanced stats. For fuck's sake. I literally just shoved your argument down your throat and you still can't give it up.

That have a SHIT ton of talent. Especially offensively. With young teams, this shit happens. All the sudden shit clicks. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Another great example? The 2001-2002 Lightning. AWFUL team. Absolutely dreadful. The following year they are the #3 seed in the playoffs and then the next they won the Stanley Cup.

Young kids are going to make mistakes. They are going to turn the puck over, and make dumb plays in the neutral zone. But they are getting shit done. Bottom line, they are winning hockey games and doing it in convincing fasion. Have you watched an Avalanche game, or are you just spouting shit from your advanced stats (that NO ONE cares about)?

Are they going to win the Stanley Cup? Probably not. But they are a young team showing a hell of a lot of promise under new direction from Roy. They showed glimpses of it last season (see the Blackhawks first regulation loss), and are really putting something together now. Duchene looks absolutely phenominal, Landeskog is one of the best young captains in the game, Tanguay is making things happen...they have the same markup of the young Blackhawks, Lightning, Penguins, etc. before things just came together. A bunch of incredibly talented young forwards that just need experience and seasoning before they are really scary. In case you all don't remember (I don't know why you would), I've been riding high on the Avs for a couple years now, saying they are on the cusp of being the next Blackhawks (along with the Oil, who will get there soon).

Bringing in Miller for a couple prospects and draft picks would be a GREAT move. After this Varlamov nonsense, they need to show the team and the fans that they are really committed to winning. Put butts in the seats, drive up revenue, give yourself as a team more spending money in the offseason to make some splashes, and get this ball rolling. You don't just start 10-1-0 with a core like this and throw in the towel because "your puck possession stats aren't that great". There is a HELL of a lot more to a game like hockey than what your puck possession numbers look like.

Keep judging talent and teams by an excel spreadsheet. It's working wonders for you.

I have nothing further to add, your Honor

Thanks Chris. :hug

Ok, one thing to the point of Giguere. He would be the first to agree that he's no longer capable of handling the starting role. However, he's a superb backup both on the ice and in the room. Maybe one of he best in the game right now, and I mean more than just his record.

We've got a good young keeper in Aitakkalo in the system. My thinking: a tandem of Miller/Jiggy until the latter retires this year or next, then bring up Aittakalo slowly behind Miller, preparing him to take the reigns. Boom.

Rebecca De Mornay 10-31-2013 10:16 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Can Roy still play?

fonzz41 10-31-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 14892156)
Can Roy still play?

Probably. The guy finds a way to win at everything he does.

Apparently he taught Varly a lot... Maybe how to hit chicks too?

Too much?


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