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Raymond was avoiding a check, and Marchand was initiating a check...

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The thing is clipping is described as a hit below the knees of an opposing player. It's a 5 minute penalty and a game misconduct. Would Raymond's hit be classified as that as well?

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I think that it doesn't apply if you are avoiding a check. Raymond was trying to avoid a check where Marchand was initiating a check. That's just what I think. Obviously they look like the exact same hit but the situations are completely different.

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I guess we just disagree. I don't think Marchand is initiating a check there. Salo's own momentum carried him over Marchand.

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here is the full video. Marchand make a play for the puck, in the exact same area, in the exact same way about 10 seconds before the hit, and Marchand just checks him. When I watched it the first time I was shocked to see Marchand not go down because the play is EXACTLY the same. Marchand just checks Salo and goes for the puck. 10 seconds later the exact same thing happens and instead of going for the puck, he avoids it and just takes out Salo. That's your penalty, and your suspension.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGD5DbljtfE

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nobody can hate the Canucks more than me, we all know that. that being said, Marchand's hit is bullshit.

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I think DMBcubs hates the Canucks more than you. :lol

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actually that is very possible :lol

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The hit was deserving of the penalty and a suspension. Maybe 5 games is a bit much, because to me, hits to the head are a bit worse than to the knees, and they have been getting 2 games quite often it seems.

Still, it looks like Marchand sees Salo coming so he lets the puck go so that Salo plays it and he can check him. And he does so in a very dangerous manner. Pretty shitty play, IMO.

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Marchand's hit was a cheap shot. He's a classless mother who is going to get it one day.

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Marchand plays on the edge for sure. But there are quite a few guys who are dirtier than him in the league.

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I'm sure there are--but I wasn't trying to argue that. The suspension was well deserved.

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Did not deserve 5 games.

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Marchand has a history, I believe, right? As a repeat offender he was going to get something. The hit was very dangerous. It's not a hip check at all. He takes out his legs, and everyone who knows physics, knows that Salo is going to fall on his head. It was stupid and reckless.

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Yeah, it's really tough. I can't imagine what it's like for that kid that hit him. At only 16. There were people (kids) sending him death threats on Facebook apparently.

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Marchand had one suspension and a fine prior to this one. But look at this hit by Rene Borque which occurred 2 games after he came off a suspension and he got 5 for this. The hit was cheap but not as bad as this hit by Borque which received the same suspension. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I38dKQlTP1E

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Marchand is far from dirty.

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Ricky this is not true.

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Ricky brings the dumbz

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UCFish trying to be GoCubs. Never a good thing.

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He is not a dirty player.

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Bourque and Marchand's hits are the same IN THE SENSE THAT they were completely unnecessary.

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You are wrong.

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One is a blatant head shot. The other is not.

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I know. Head shots are not the only suspendable hit in the league. Marchand and Salo had the exact same play only 10 seconds before the hit, and Marchand did the right thing. What he did on that hit was completely unnecessary.

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Nah I'm not.

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I'm aware. Like I've said it's a dirty play. However I think 5 games is pretty ridiculous given that similar hits have not even been penalized, and he got the same suspension as Bourque, who was fresh off a suspension and issued a head shot.

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Cest Le Vie

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Brad Marchand is a very nice guy.

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These guys wouldn't hurt a fly. http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-con...pink-bunny.jpg