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I would be SHOCKED if -

1) Ehrhoff was resigned by the Hawks
2) Svedberg plays in the NHL for more than 10-20 games (mostly for injury fill in)
3) Campbell plays on the bottom pair
4) Kempny isn't on the opening day roster

It'll likely be more like this -

Keith - Hjalmarsson
Campbell - Seabrook
Kempny - TVR
Roszival

With Pokka and Svedberg being call-ups if needed.

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Stevie Y does it again. Great signing.

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If Kilorn gets 4.5 what is Kuch gonna get and Johnson next year?

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Agreed on Erhoff, I too doubt he remains in Chicago.
Unsure about Kempny to be honest, Hawks have a deep D so he may not be on the opening day roster.
I agree Campbell should be on the first or second D pairing but I think given his status as a vet having him on a line with young guys like Svedberg or TVR would be very beneficial to their development.

Regardless though - Keith is going to anchor the first pairing and Seabrook will anchor the second pairing (and BOTH will likely be on the ice together during PP's) regardless of who they are paired with.

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Kempny will almost certainly be on the opening day roster. Dude was a KHL stud, came over here with the expectation he plays in the NHL, not the AHL. I'm guessing he was all but guaranteed a spot on the roster when he signed kind of like Panarin was.

He's going to be really good.

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Johnson is so interesting...curious where he lands.

Still can't believe they got Stammer for only 8.5. Blows my mind.

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He knew what the only $ they could get offer was. While his cap hit seems low, those state taxes do play into what he actually gets plus an 8th year. If Detroit or Buffalo gave him 10.5mil, he'd only take home like 500k more per year than he's taking home in TB and Tampa could give an 8th year so he's making about $2mil more overall in Tampa than he could have gotten in either of those two places at a 10.5mil cap hit.

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I was!

I still maintain that my personal preference was N1. But both were VERY good and couldn't go wrong.

There were songs in N1 that I enjoy and haven't heard in awhile that push over the top for me. First three songs in N2 were just amazing, even though Last Stop was kind of a mess for the first 5 minutes. And I just don't hold Two Step and Halloween in the same regard as others so it doesn't push it past N1 for me.

Missing Jimi though was really a win for everyone there and the world.

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Where did you see that? I have a hard time believing that's accurate, since the state taxes are taken out based on where you play. Over the course of a 7 year contract, he'd only have an extra $1,561,875 taken out in Michigan considering Michigan's state income is 4.25%. He'd make up that difference in no time, plus whatever he'd get paid in the 8th year when he signs another contract.

10.5*7 = 73,500,000 - 1561875 = $71,938,125
8.5*8 = 68,000,000

Math for reference - 10,500,000*.0425=$446,250/2(home games in Michigan)=223,125*8(years)=$1,561,875

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So for consistency's sake, if we look at a "per year" basis -

10.5*7 = 71,938,125 = 10,276,875 per year
8.5*7 (with no state income for FLA home games) = 59,500,000 = still 8.5 per year...so another 1.77m per year

I have no idea where you read that 500k number, but it's not right.

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https://www.capfriendly.com/post_tax_calculator

That's including all taxes federal and state.

10.5mil per year in Detroit after all taxes: 5.6mi per year for 7 years= 39.2mil

8.5mil per year in TB: 5.1mil per year for 8 years=40.8mil.

So even though his cap hit would be higher in Detroit, he's making more in Tampa at a lower cap hit.

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I prefer Kucherov to Johnson, I just think he's a better player. He'll probably be asking for 6-7 range. If we can lock him up for 6x6.5 or something like that I'd be happy. They've got about 8.5 of space left right now after the Killorn deal.

Palat and Drouin are also RFA in 17-18 with Johnson. We have $19 million in projected space. Johnson would get more than Palat, close to what Killorn signs for. Palat probably 5-5.5 million. I'm not so sure of what type of offer Drouin would be looking at. I trust in Yzerman to know which guys he can keep and who may have to walk or get moved.

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Interesting...I'm not sure how accurate that is. I just sent them an email, as it seems they are just comparing 1 vs 1 for tax rates. For example, check out Andrew McCutchen's pay stub:

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-con...pay-stub-2.jpg

See how he's had state income taken out in Illinois, Missouri, etc.? Because everything is "per game", when he plays home games there, that's where taxes are taken out.

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The per game thing is interesting, especially when you get into some of these more recent NHL contracts where a large portion of the contracts are being paid in signing bonuses. If you get a large sum of it at once do you still get taxed at a per game basis? Stammer will get 9.5mil this year and 8.5mil of it is a signing bonus so his salary is actually only 1mil cause he's already got the 8.5mil up front.

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Interesting trade, Rangers sending Brassard to OTT for Zibenejad.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2016/07/18/...for-zibanejad/

Brassard quietly had a great last season for the Rags (I only noticed because he was on my fantasy team), so that's a solid pickup for the Sens. However, Zibenejad is rounding out into a really solid player as well and is a bit younger.

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Rangers dump some salary over 3 years which is good for them. When everything is all said and done in a few years I think the Rangers win. Got rid of the salary and added a younger player.

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And when was the last time the Rangers got YOUNGER after a trade? ;)

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1989?? Just guessing though. ;)

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:lol so true

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:lol
I don't hate the trade, but will miss DB.

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He was really underrated, TBH. Started out pretty one-dimensional, but I thought he'd really rounded out his game the last couple seasons.

However, Zibenejad has a ton of upside. Plays hard and has the skill to match. Good trade for the Rags.

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Yeah...that changes a lot, too, since I'm sure that signing bonus is based in Florida so no state income tax on that...

Since when was hockey so much about math? :lol

At what point do the Rags move Hank? I mean, what if they traded him for someone like Lehtonen and a couple first round picks? They clearly aren't winning the Stanley Cup this year (Rangers). Do they realize their window to win one with Hank is closed so they move him to a team with some cap space that's basically a goalie away from being a real SC contender? Maybe to the (gulp) Islanders for Halak, Michael Dal Colle, and a first? Maybe Nashville retains some salary for Rinne, sends him and Kevin Fiala over and a first?

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I don't think Hank gets moved anywhere in the Metro. Rangers will likely deal him to a team that's a contender, like you said, much like Ryan Miller. I was ready to start over once Talbot started showing signs of competency. Sucks to say, but it'll have to happen at some point. I don't want to see him fizzle like Marty.

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You have to think it's crossed their mind, right? Honestly, it seems difficult to move goaltenders right now. Especially highly-paid ones.

I'll be honest, I haven't even thought about it until right now, but the possibility of him coming to the Avs is slightly intriguing. I love Varly, but I think if Pickard continues to develop, he's our guy of the future. But still, we could use an established vet for another couple seasons probably. Would be kinda cool to trade Varly and a prospect to NYR for Hank, have Hank start for a couple seasons in COL and be a good example for Pickard, and then Pickard take the reigns.

Two concerns: Money, which isn't all that bad if we move Varly and have Iggy come off the books. And time. Hank is still at an age where he COULD potentially have 4-5 years left in him. In most scenarios, that would be a GOOD thing; in the one I outlined above, that's almost TOO much time, you know? I would think Pickard would be ready to start in 2 seasons... and I'd hate to have an $8 million (or whatever his salary is) whale sitting on the bench.

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5 more years of him at 8.5mil is a lot and most of it is actually salary. Hard for a team to take that on when it's not just cap hit. I'd say he could retire early but he's still making $7mil in his 2nd to last year. He's not leaving that on the table.

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I had a whole long reply to this, then accidentally closed the tab :BANG

But short version - maybe that's where Nashville makes the most sense? Team is ready to contend for the Cup now, and Hank is a clear upgrade over Rinne. If they move Fiala to join Zibenejad in NY, the Rags have some solid building blocks for the future without having to go through the hard "overhaul" stage, still have a solid goaltender, get some money off the books in the future, etc. If Nashville retains a couple mil for Rinne, then they REALLY have some money off the books, and meanwhile, Nashville (IMO) becomes the immediate favorite in the West.

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That's great.

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I dedicate that post to you, Sal.

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It was my birthday yesterday and that line was my favorite present. Thanks.

Don't need a bunch of wishes now. Thanks in advance. When you get to my age, we don't acknowledge them anyways :D:lorraine

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:lol :lol

Happy bday, Sal