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Look, I'm not trying to trump my opinion over anyone else's, just simply express it.
No penalty is, by definition, a "hockey play". That's why they hand out penalties for it. Subban comes in swinging hard and recklessly, making it way more severe than a normal slash. Even more than a double minor. It sucks that Stone got hurt, it really does. I hate seeing players get seriously injured, especially in the playoffs. But I don't see enough to warrant a suspension, or even an offense warranting removing the player from the rest of the game. As a ref, the only reason I would even consider removing him from the game after that would be if the game was already super chippy and I feared more injuries could occur if he continued to play, i.e., Sens players taking dangerous runs at Subban himself out of retribution. If the atmosphere of the game was already such, I might give him the game just to get him outta there and hopefully calm things down. I didn't watch this particular game, so not sure if that was the case. Either way, it's such a fluid thing that changes from game to game. |
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As for this being a "hockey play," I kind of disagree. Yes, hockey is violent and injuries will happen. But a slash, by definition, is an illegal play. A penalty. As Denis Lemieux says in Slap Shot, "You don't do dat." I get that slashes will occur in battles for the puck, but that's not the case here. Should he get suspended? I don't know. Subban certainly has a history, but I don't like when the NHL gets arbitrary and reactionary in its justice. If possible, the rules should be clearer, i.e. if you intentionally slash a player away from the play after having choked up on the stick, five minutes, game misconduct, one game suspension (or more for multiple offenses.) |
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that actually may have played into the decision to give him the game misconduct. i will be surprised if he doesn't get some extra attention in game 2 regardless. |
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never change, guys, never change
but i hope the league does |
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Melting faster in here than the ice in Staples.
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So u agree that there should be a rule change to include a suspension for that act? Please quote where u said that |
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I'd say someone should stand up and fight him in game 2 but PK won't dance and that lovely instigator rule would just hurt the Sens. That's where I give Weber props back in 2012, that when Bert went after him, he accepted. |
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edit: my bad, thought you quoted fonzzz post. |
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NHL would rather have Montreal in than Ottawa. Same reason why officials were biased for Chicago. It's a conspiracy and Gary B is behind it!!!
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All joking aside, the thing I can't get passed is the fact of he was away from the play and broke the guy's wrist and he's a repeat offender.
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I have always wondered, what would Bettman want if he had the choice. A big market like Chicago in the Finals, or one like Nashville or Arizona. Chicago is better for ratings but Nashville/Arizona getting there helps the market, but the ratings probably wouldn't be good. |
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There needs to be a logical step-by-step narrative and reason why guys are suspended and for how long. The length can never, and will never be "however long the other guy is out" because it's WAY too open ended. Guys heal differently, different injuries have different recovery times, etc. It's completely arbitrary, and would never fly. |
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So I suppose yes, I would be giving him a game misconduct because I still wouldn't feel comfortable giving him anything less than a 5-minute penalty. Quote:
EDIT: But yeah, to Tim's point, there's no way Subban goes with it. |
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If no injury, then I wouldn't be calling for a game suspension and as I said earlier, I don't usually need to 'factor in if a guy was injured to determine suspension". It was not even close to a hockey play. He raised the stick above his head and came down in that chopping motion exactly where he knew Stone would be most vulnerable. But I was okay with no suspension before the injury news so I am not really hardcore calling that he needs to be now. I just think he should be.
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I think it's wrong to say the Islanders can't be any better than they were last night, but I think it's correct to say the Caps can't be any worse. I don't expect game 2 to look like that.
I do think they are fucked though |
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Is he actively participating in it, no. But he has a lot more power that he chooses not to use. I hope the Stanley Cup Finals comes down to Nashville vs. Tampa Bay. |
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