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Dannyyankou 09-28-2020 10:07 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
I take everything with a grain of salt these days. It was looking like they were working on a new album in 2014, which they were, but it took 4 years to get it.

ToySoldier#34 09-28-2020 10:09 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannyyankou (Post 17793706)
I take everything with a grain of salt these days. It was looking like they were working on a new album in 2014, which they were, but it took 4 years to get it.

But I think this guarantees we see an album in the next half decade which is very exciting

Dannyyankou 09-28-2020 10:10 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmkratt (Post 17793545)
Sugarwill is the shit.

Thereís a studio version with Leroi. I want it.

Cptn. Monkeyman 09-28-2020 10:21 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmkratt (Post 17793545)
Sugarwill is the shit.

Indeed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannyyankou (Post 17793710)
Thereís a studio version with Leroi. I want it.

Is this confirmed? I know the rumors that they went into the studio in 2004, but do we have any confirmation that the songs worked on were actually recorded? That would be one of the best demo sessions the band could offer.

Fpuonpko 09-28-2020 10:38 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cptn. Monkeyman (Post 17793725)
Indeed



Is this confirmed? I know the rumors that they went into the studio in 2004, but do we have any confirmation that the songs worked on were actually recorded? That would be one of the best demo sessions the band could offer.


yes, in April 2004 there is confirmation the band recorded at Haunted Hollow. sugar will was recorded, as was half of stand up. they also re-recorded OSW, Recently and TSTJL

BTCS_JTR 09-28-2020 10:44 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Current Sugar Will doesn't make it move for me

Dannyyankou 09-28-2020 10:46 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cptn. Monkeyman (Post 17793725)
Indeed



Is this confirmed? I know the rumors that they went into the studio in 2004, but do we have any confirmation that the songs worked on were actually recorded? That would be one of the best demo sessions the band could offer.


Yeah thereís even a short clip of it from one of the early big whiskey sessions

https://youtu.be/sQWXMWC4e08

ToySoldier#34 09-28-2020 10:50 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BTCS_JTR (Post 17793744)
Current Sugar Will doesn't make it move for me


You should see a doctor and play a recent version from YouTube, see if they have any thoughts

BruceW 09-28-2020 11:40 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannyyankou (Post 17793746)
Yeah thereís even a short clip of it from one of the early big whiskey sessions

https://youtu.be/sQWXMWC4e08


I donít think thatís Sugar Will. I can see the similarities but I disagree

Whatever it is sounds awesome, and wow Dave looks young. It feels like yesterday that that video came out

Cscottrun 09-28-2020 11:44 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannyyankou (Post 17793746)
Yeah thereís even a short clip of it from one of the early big whiskey sessions

https://youtu.be/sQWXMWC4e08

I think this is what you were referring to: https://youtu.be/ipEqAdPPUSE?t=617

ToySoldier#34 09-28-2020 11:47 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceW (Post 17793792)
I donít think thatís Sugar Will. I can see the similarities but I disagree

Whatever it is sounds awesome, and wow Dave looks young. It feels like yesterday that that video came out

This is Time Bomb

grilldanmo 09-29-2020 12:11 AM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Instead of little snippets of tunes w/ Roi or songs that include him where he isn't really featured, they should release the recorded versions of as many of the songs that he was on as possible. The fans would eat it up, his family/estate could get more royalties, these songs could get added to sets, etc.

I get sitting on stuff that you've moved away from as an artist (at least in theory), but these songs are a part of Roi's legacy and one of the only chances for it to grow. I also think about someone like Zappa who'd take a solo from one his player's feature from live shows and literally write a song around it. From what we've been told over the years, Roi would lay down lots of versions of stuff that could be applied to other pieces if the band were interested. Of course, it could be emotionally difficult and that's likely part of why they haven't done much with the archival stuff featuring Roi.

I would love to hear as much stuff as they have in the can from Roi as possible. Perfection shouldn't be goal, especially from a band that's all about the live performances. Releasing demo versions, alternate takes, unreleased stuff, etc. has been a regular practice for decades, especially for artists that have passed. Atlantic has released almost every note that Coltrane played in the studio when he was on their roster...

Cptn. Monkeyman 09-29-2020 07:25 AM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Yeah, I love that clip of Dave playing along to Sugar Will in the studio with Cavallo. I donít think Roi was on that track, but it is possible.

Cptn. Monkeyman 09-29-2020 07:27 AM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fpuonpko (Post 17793738)
yes, in April 2004 there is confirmation the band recorded at Haunted Hollow. sugar will was recorded, as was half of stand up. they also re-recorded OSW, Recently and TSTJL

So they were already working with Batson this early? I find this hard to believe.

BruceW 09-29-2020 07:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34 (Post 17793798)
This is Time Bomb


No heís talking about the first 2 seconds or so of the video

ToySoldier#34 09-29-2020 07:59 AM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceW (Post 17793824)
No heís talking about the first 2 seconds or so of the video

Ahh, definitely not Time Bomb, or Sugar Will

kevinmavs 09-29-2020 08:40 AM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Sugar Will took another step once Tim joined full time. Wasn't a huge fan of the 2004 versions but then it started to grow on me overtime. I think it's one of the best songs they have over the last 15 years.

SeekUpTheCubs 09-29-2020 08:48 AM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Im into seeing some of Break Free, Break For It, Sugar Will, Shotgun, etc. I would certainly not complain; however, i do like these songs living as live tunes that change year in and year out

I want Bismark - I still feel like this represents current DMB in a strong enough way to make the album. I also want the guys to play it again regularly

I'd prefer almost entirely new songs.

jaymas9 09-29-2020 09:31 AM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceW (Post 17793792)
I donít think thatís Sugar Will. I can see the similarities but I disagree

Whatever it is sounds awesome, and wow Dave looks young. It feels like yesterday that that video came out

:thumbsup I've wanted whatever those 4 seconds are for 12 years.

Cscottrun 09-29-2020 09:54 AM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceW (Post 17793824)
No heís talking about the first 2 seconds or so of the video

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34 (Post 17793829)
Ahh, definitely not Time Bomb, or Sugar Will

I hear an extended jam over the Time Bomb beat in the first 2 seconds.

grilldanmo 09-29-2020 11:17 AM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cptn. Monkeyman (Post 17793820)
So they were already working with Batson this early? I find this hard to believe.

I was talking to my wife about this and wondering if they worked on SU tunes w/o or before Batson, why they'd give him co-write credits on any of those older tunes?

ToySoldier#34 09-29-2020 11:19 AM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grilldanmo (Post 17793995)
I was talking to my wife about this and wondering if they worked on SU tunes w/o or before Batson, why they'd give him co-write credits on any of those older tunes?


This is actually a topic I'm really interested in and not nearly as educated on as I'd like to be

eggsrsweet 09-29-2020 11:22 AM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
SBC Soundcheck 2005: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBh45cR6gls

The fact that the band created that, never played it live for an audience and then just slam dunked it right into the recycle bin is just fucking astounding to me. Considering he debuted Cornbread and Can't Stop the next year.

It is hands down the most frustrating thing about Dave... his taste in his own music is atrocious. I think Batson and Rashawn are to blame for this as well tbh.

BruceW 09-29-2020 12:20 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eggsrsweet (Post 17793999)
SBC Soundcheck 2005: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBh45cR6gls

The fact that the band created that, never played it live for an audience and then just slam dunked it right into the recycle bin is just fucking astounding to me. Considering he debuted Cornbread and Can't Stop the next year.

It is hands down the most frustrating thing about Dave... his taste in his own music is atrocious. I think Batson and Rashawn are to blame for this as well tbh.

Hot take I guess, but I have honestly never understood the total infatuation with this.

It's the Dreaming Tree jam with Dave throwing in some chord changes to make it deviate. Boyd is even playing his DT part alongside some minor soloing. It sounds great, but it wasn't some groundbreaking new song.

LaLaLaLaHey 09-29-2020 12:31 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceW (Post 17794057)
Hot take I guess, but I have honestly never understood the total infatuation with this.

It's the Dreaming Tree jam with Dave throwing in some chord changes to make it deviate. Boyd is even playing his DT part alongside some minor soloing. It sounds great, but it wasn't some groundbreaking new song.


It’s in 7/4, but it’s not the DT jam. Key is Em instead of Dm, Stefan and Carter are playing different things. Kind of makes me think of Raven if it were in 7/4 haha combined with some hints of #27 because of the chords Dave’s playing.

Anyway, I think Bartender and DDTW sound way more similar than this and DT do. Could’ve definitely made this into a record. Bartender and DDTW literally share the same verse and chorus chord progressions (albeit Bartender has a bit of a riff and one other chord in the verse).

BruceW 09-29-2020 12:50 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
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Originally Posted by LaLaLaLaHey (Post 17794063)
Itís in 7/4, but itís not the DT jam. Key is Em instead of Dm, Stefan and Carter are playing different things. Kind of makes me think of Raven if it were in 7/4 haha combined with some hints of #27 because of the chords Daveís playing.

Anyway, I think Bartender and DDTW sound way more similar than this and DT do. Couldíve definitely made this into a record. Bartender and DDTW literally share the same verse and chorus chord progressions (albeit Bartender has a bit of a riff and one other chord in the verse).

Carter is literally playing the DT outro.

Vorony 09-29-2020 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceW (Post 17794075)
Carter is literally playing the DT outro.

Unless the band was planning on bringing back DT in Em that year, itís not the DT outro. It may sound similar, but itís a completely different key.

BruceW 09-29-2020 01:29 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
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Originally Posted by Vorony (Post 17794087)
Unless the band was planning on bringing back DT in Em that year, itís not the DT outro. It may sound similar, but itís a completely different key.


I already said Dave was playing it in a different key.

And thatís exactly what it sounds like to me. Dreaming Tree outro in a different key. Because the rest of it is DT. Boyd even plays his part.

dmbnut21 09-29-2020 03:20 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
You guys are all sitting here talking about a new album (which I'm 100% all about) but I'm just sitting here wondering if there is any chance Carter joins Dave for the request show on 10/2 and does some killer bongos.

CrAzYEasyDMB04 09-29-2020 03:43 PM

Re: New Album Coming Soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceW (Post 17794093)
I already said Dave was playing it in a different key.

And thatís exactly what it sounds like to me. Dreaming Tree outro in a different key. Because the rest of it is DT. Boyd even plays his part.


Carter farted on the 1... thats how i know this is dreaming tree in Em... you guys are all children... grow up. Its clearly a variation of something they had been working on.


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