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crounsa810 08-13-2022 06:41 AM

Re: Random dmb thoughts that don't need their own thread
 
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Originally Posted by 8nalive (Post 18249044)
What do you think was the best DMB year from 2011-2020 and why?

2013, no doubt

Bearclaw_ 08-13-2022 08:56 AM

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Different kind of answer: I’m partial to the 2011 caravan approach. I wouldn’t want a music festival approach again but I did enjoy the 3 days of DMB + D&T.

ToySoldier#34 08-13-2022 11:55 AM

Re: Random dmb thoughts that don't need their own thread
 
From what I remember over various interviews the process of finishing DDTW in the studio was really a challenge, the band more or less gave up on it and drank that night all upset that it wasn't going to happen. Then Lillywhite worked on it all night and had the band come in the next day and they had a track. I'd love to be able to listen to whatever they had when they gave up on it and see the changes that Lillywhite made, it's a great track and hard to imagine it was so hopeless they gave up on it a day before the form we know it as.

8nalive 08-13-2022 10:47 PM

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I am about halfway through the new Live Trax 60 that I received in the mail today. I listened to Water into Wine a few times. It is very country like and makes me want to have a hoedown! Dave says, "Oh, Texas gold" in a funny voice. Roi is so smooth

Dannyyankou 08-15-2022 11:02 PM

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Heard Old Dirt Hill playing at ShopRite today.

btpeters 08-16-2022 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dannyyankou (Post 18250159)
Heard Old Dirt Hill playing at ShopRite today.


Bring those deals back to me again

hopewelljones 08-16-2022 10:10 AM

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I’ve always loved Spaceman. Classic Dave + Fonz + Carter interplay. Tim playing cool parts that add texture without just mimicking Dave’s parts (love his riff in the pre-chorus). I like the lyrics too, it’s a vibe that allows saying “I love you baby” a million different ways to not be annoying. Really dig “I’m not all bad but I’m a faithful sinner, I might get lost but I’ll be home for dinner” and “I’d be a dog for a tail [tale] to chase.” Awesome horn parts (sadly missing from the studio cut) and a Rashawn solo that actually, usually, shows restraint. Studio cut is kinda whack but I really dig the banjo. One of, if not the, most underrated tracks post-2000.

Edit: just listened to studio again. Forgot how much I actually like it. The vocal overlays are super cool. Just needs horns!

Cptn. Monkeyman 08-16-2022 10:19 AM

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Spacemans awesome. Carter and Stefan own it, and Rashawn sounds great on it.

TypicalBilly14 08-16-2022 05:35 PM

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I'm sure it has been answered elsewhere, but why did Jake the mod take off from AM.Org?

Dannyyankou 08-16-2022 06:14 PM

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I was listening to the AFTW bonus dvd. They auto tuned the hell out of Dave's voice, especially BOWA

https://youtu.be/oGi6diDsjR0?t=3228

dmb417 08-17-2022 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dannyyankou (Post 18250574)
I was listening to the AFTW bonus dvd. They auto tuned the hell out of Dave's voice, especially BOWA

https://youtu.be/oGi6diDsjR0?t=3228

I don't mind them autotuning Dave, sometimes it really ruins the moment for me when Dave goes really flat

bowa36 08-17-2022 01:06 PM

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Been on an Eh Hee kick lately. Want it to come back.

crounsa810 08-17-2022 08:41 PM

Re: Random dmb thoughts that don't need their own thread
 
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Originally Posted by TypicalBilly14 (Post 18250552)
I'm sure it has been answered elsewhere, but why did Jake the mod take off from AM.Org?

Oh wow, yeah he’s been gone almost a whole year now. That’s crazy

jwrice5 08-18-2022 09:07 AM

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So this past weekend I listened to both Stand Up and Come Tomorrow, and outside of a couple of songs, they are kind of unlistenable.

AFTW came next, and while I do like many of the songs, it just feels flat; lifeless.

Everyday was on the docket for today, and it just straight up fucking jams. Live, the songs kill, and as strange as it is to say now (compared to the time of its release), it sounds more like “classic” DMB than anything since Busted Stuff.


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kmb40oz 08-18-2022 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jwrice5 (Post 18251321)
So this past weekend I listened to both Stand Up and Come Tomorrow, and outside of a couple of songs, they are kind of unlistenable.

AFTW came next, and while I do like many of the songs, it just feels flat; lifeless.

Everyday was on the docket for today, and it just straight up fucking jams. Live, the songs kill, and as strange as it is to say now (compared to the time of its release), it sounds more like “classic” DMB than anything since Busted Stuff.


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Steve Hyden had a scathing review of AFTW but he absolutely nails it. Hyden is by no means a DMB fan and has openly stated that but he is a music critic and he does know good music.

"As much as I hated my brief experience seeing Matthews live, at least he played with conviction. Away From the World feels like an afterthought, which makes the half-assed stabs at “meaning” all the more ineffectual."

Nail, meet hammer. Spot on.

TypicalBilly14 08-18-2022 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by crounsa810 (Post 18251186)
Oh wow, yeah he’s been gone almost a whole year now. That’s crazy

do you know the reason why? Family, new location, school, etc? Just curious as I missed what happened.

cantstopagain 08-18-2022 05:05 PM

Re: Random dmb thoughts that don't need their own thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jwrice5 (Post 18251321)
So this past weekend I listened to both Stand Up and Come Tomorrow, and outside of a couple of songs, they are kind of unlistenable.

AFTW came next, and while I do like many of the songs, it just feels flat; lifeless.

Everyday was on the docket for today, and it just straight up fucking jams. Live, the songs kill, and as strange as it is to say now (compared to the time of its release), it sounds more like “classic” DMB than anything since Busted Stuff.


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Agree with Stand Up. It is atrocious. Bad all around. Come Tomorrow is way better in my opinion, but knowing that it's a last minute ditch effort to get it out leaves a bad taste in my mouth about it.

I would agree with everything you've said here, but Big Whisky is still a really good moment in the band's studio history. I love that album.

cantstopagain 08-18-2022 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TypicalBilly14 (Post 18250552)
I'm sure it has been answered elsewhere, but why did Jake the mod take off from AM.Org?

He gave up on DMB and their fans. 30 years was enough.

cantstopagain 08-18-2022 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dmb417 (Post 18250742)
I don't mind them autotuning Dave, sometimes it really ruins the moment for me when Dave goes really flat

yet people mind when they edit Boyd.

bigeyedpigs 08-18-2022 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jwrice5 (Post 18251321)
So this past weekend I listened to both Stand Up and Come Tomorrow, and outside of a couple of songs, they are kind of unlistenable.

AFTW came next, and while I do like many of the songs, it just feels flat; lifeless.

Everyday was on the docket for today, and it just straight up fucking jams. Live, the songs kill, and as strange as it is to say now (compared to the time of its release), it sounds more like “classic” DMB than anything since Busted Stuff.


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Absolutely agree. Everyday is in a different tier than the other three.

grilldanmo 08-18-2022 09:49 PM

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I'll take CT and AFtW over ED every-damned-day, twice on Sundays. While SU is still my least favorite album based on the music and sound itself, ED is the least DMB sounding album from the catalog PLUS Some Devil. As I've said before, while I don't care for the results I appreciate that SU had the band working together to create music instead of Dave writing with the "rock" hitmaker de jour and using the band like 2nd tier studio musicians (top tier players contribute/create parts and sometimes help w/ arrangements).

I can agree that ED stands out, but not in way that I enjoy at all.

ToySoldier#34 08-18-2022 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bigeyedpigs (Post 18251742)
Absolutely agree. Everyday is in a different tier than the other three.


It's miles better than everything that has come after it aside from BS and the fact that it was written so quickly is impressive

spoot388 08-19-2022 02:53 AM

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speaking of everyday, i listened to the only thing earlier today for the first time in a while and i had a thought that it felt like an everyday (album) song. it was like DIDO meets i did it, but in a good way.

crounsa810 08-19-2022 06:53 AM

Re: Random dmb thoughts that don't need their own thread
 
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Originally Posted by TypicalBilly14 (Post 18251718)
do you know the reason why? Family, new location, school, etc? Just curious as I missed what happened.

I can only assume the band started playing Fool to Think too often for him.

KevinTH 08-19-2022 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by grilldanmo (Post 18251906)
I'll take CT and AFtW over ED every-damned-day, twice on Sundays. While SU is still my least favorite album based on the music and sound itself, ED is the least DMB sounding album from the catalog PLUS Some Devil. As I've said before, while I don't care for the results I appreciate that SU had the band working together to create music instead of Dave writing with the "rock" hitmaker de jour and using the band like 2nd tier studio musicians (top tier players contribute/create parts and sometimes help w/ arrangements).

I can agree that ED stands out, but not in way that I enjoy at all.

As a working musician myself this comes off very narrow minded. To call a studio musician that shows up and plays charts “2nd tier studio musicians” is really a slap to how talented those musicians are. Some of those Everyday interviews back in the day may have been fluff, but I do in fact believe Carter when he said he felt like a professional throughout that process. Studio musicians that can come in and play whatever it is you ask of them speaks to how talented they actually are. There are SO many musicians we have never heard of that have contributed their sound to some of the biggest names in the business.

None of us had a clue as to who Buddy Strong was until he got pulled into DMB, but the guy had played with top artists like Ariana Grande. There are so many different kinds of working musicians out there you’ve never heard of that are top tier musicians but they can read charts fluently and don’t always play to 20,000 people every night. Where do you think the thousands and thousands of Berklee trained musicians go when they graduate?

bigeyedpigs 08-19-2022 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34 (Post 18251907)
It's miles better than everything that has come after it aside from BS and the fact that it was written so quickly is impressive

Absolutely. I know most won't agree and there may be musical and technical differences that would draw fans to the other three discussed, but just from an "enjoyable" perspective I think everyday blows them out.

jwrice5 08-19-2022 10:18 AM

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I feel like a lot of folks “hate” ED because of the “controversy” around LWS/ED/BS. Had LWS been released, followed by ED, I think people would have felt different. Many would have still been like “WTF” but it would have been different.

Musically and especially lyrically, it is far superior to anything since (again, with the exception of BS).


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Dannyyankou 08-19-2022 10:36 AM

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I listened to all the albums before I joined any forums or knew what the Lillywhite Sessions were, and Everyday was always near the bottom of my list. I never liked how produced it sounded, almost as if it was created specifically for radio.

Cptn. Monkeyman 08-19-2022 11:31 AM

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I really like half of tracks from the Everyday album, the other half range from meh to bad. When you don’t like 6 out of 12 tracks, it’s hard to rank an album any higher than a C

ToySoldier#34 08-19-2022 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cptn. Monkeyman (Post 18252143)
I really like half of tracks from the Everyday album, the other half range from meh to bad. When you don’t like 6 out of 12 tracks, it’s hard to rank an album any higher than a C


I have it higher than 6 but even if I was at 6 that'd be more than any DMB album since aside from BS


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