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bonzo48280 03-04-2014 01:34 PM
Oduya is top 4 on one of the best defensive cores in the league (possibly the best) and top 4 on a silver medal team. He's a lot better than people think.

lockman21 03-04-2014 01:36 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Luongo gone!

HallowBillies7 03-04-2014 01:43 PM
The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15164813)
Luongo gone!

Glad he's out of that cluster fuck finally. Funny part is him and Thomas are now teammates :lol, for now anyway.

Edit: how do the Canucks go from Schneider and Luongo to Eddie Lack all in less than a year? Bad moves.

lockman21 03-04-2014 01:45 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15164774)
True but he really is barely a top 4 and on a top 10, he is a 3rd pair. Wish he resigned because he is a solid 2nd pAir for us but he won't be worth the money he gets. He is going to block a lot of shots but makes a lot of mistakes near his own net and is not very physical. Decent 2nd pair dman on the pp, too.
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Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 15164794)
Oduya is top 4 on one of the best defensive cores in the league (possibly the best) and top 4 on a silver medal team. He's a lot better than people think.
He wasn't talking about Oduya there, Mike.

swordo84 03-04-2014 01:47 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Bobby Lou back to the Panthers. Gillis has officially hit the reset button.

Tomorrow is on pace to be a bore.

HallowBillies7 03-04-2014 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 15164848)
Bobby Lou back to the Panthers. Gillis has officially hit the reset button.

Tomorrow is on pace to be a bore.

Gillis should be fired for getting rid of both Schneider and Luo, awful ideas IMO.

swordo84 03-04-2014 01:50 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HallowBillies7 (Post 15164854)
Gillis should be fired for getting rid of both Schneider and Luo, awful ideas IMO.
Yeah, I don't know how you can get rid of both of those guys.

salrx95 03-04-2014 01:50 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 15164787)
Flyers get Andrew MacDonald for two picks and a prospect that I never heard of.
Are you really a prospect at 24? AHL fodder.

Best news on luongo is that Fla should pass. Isles now which means better draft pick :D

lockman21 03-04-2014 01:52 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 15164848)
Bobby Lou back to the Panthers. Gillis has officially hit the reset button.

Tomorrow is on pace to be a bore.
Writing is on the wall for Kesler.

salrx95 03-04-2014 01:53 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15164839)
He wasn't talking about Oduya there, Mike.
Thanks. Yep. On my phone at work so hard to cut text, type quickly and accurately.

Roose13 03-04-2014 01:54 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15164861)
Are you really a prospect at 24? AHL fodder.

Best news on luongo is that Fla should pass. Isles now which means better draft pick :D
Everyone else called him a prospect haha.

And Florida is so dumb in giving up on Markstrom.

lockman21 03-04-2014 01:57 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Rumors coming out that the reason for Kesler/Luongo getting to this point is huge conflicts with Torts.

HallowBillies7 03-04-2014 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15164883)
Rumors coming out that the reason for Kesler/Luongo getting to this point is huge conflicts with Torts.

So how long until Vancouver riots?

bonzo48280 03-04-2014 02:00 PM
Torts is a terrible coach. So awesome he's in Vancouver.

Sooooooo happy for Luongo.

fonzz41 03-04-2014 02:02 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15164883)
Rumors coming out that the reason for Kesler/Luongo getting to this point is huge conflicts with Torts.
This is what I was guessing.

Yeah, the Canucks have given up on this year. Kesler will be gone tomorrow.

How much longer can Gillis keep his job with the mess he's created?

EDIT: Might as well unload Edler too at this point.

salrx95 03-04-2014 02:07 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 15164878)
Everyone else called him a prospect haha.

And Florida is so dumb in giving up on Markstrom.
Lol. No, I know. I think they call anyone in a trade not in the NHL a prospect.

As for Markstrom, I agree. Even though it seems like we've been hearing about him forever and he hasn't "arrived", its too early for a team in fla's situation

fonzz41 03-04-2014 02:11 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
The Panthers are in a tough spot, so I don't blame them too much for trading for Luongo, even at the expense of Backstrom. On one hand, they want to rebuild and stock the roster with young talent. On the other hand, they don't have the luxury of being in a hockey-crazy market who will support them through tough times, like the Oilers and Flames. Basically, the Panthers need to put butts in seats to remain financially viable, and marketable players will do that. They can market the hell out of Luongo, and should see some success doing it. He won't instantly sell out the rink, but he will help.

Unfortunately, this is a short-term solution to a very long-term problem for a team like the Panthers.

lockman21 03-04-2014 02:28 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HallowBillies7 (Post 15164893)
So how long until Vancouver riots?
Wouldn't give it long.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 15164894)
Torts is a terrible coach. So awesome he's in Vancouver.

Sooooooo happy for Luongo.
Seriously...to both of these. Torts's whole thing has gotten tired and old.

Also, as fun as it was to hate on ol' Bobby Lou during the heat of the Canucks/Blackhawks rivalry, the guy has been nothing but class about the whole thing. Heart goes out to him.

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15164902)
This is what I was guessing.

Yeah, the Canucks have given up on this year. Kesler will be gone tomorrow.

How much longer can Gillis keep his job with the mess he's created?

EDIT: Might as well unload Edler too at this point.
I'd be so upset if I were a Canucks fan. James Mirtle made a great point when he said:

"If I'm a Canucks fan, what worries me is management seems to have no plan here. Why deal Schneider in June then do this? It's nuts."

There seems to be no real direction in the front office, then again, I think they didn't see this season playing out this way. I think they thought they would be top 3 in the West again.

I mean, it's not like Lack is a scrub, but this thing is crazy.

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Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15164914)
Lol. No, I know. I think they call anyone in a trade not in the NHL a prospect.

As for Markstrom, I agree. Even though it seems like we've been hearing about him forever and he hasn't "arrived", its too early for a team in fla's situation
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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15164922)
The Panthers are in a tough spot, so I don't blame them too much for trading for Luongo, even at the expense of Backstrom. On one hand, they want to rebuild and stock the roster with young talent. On the other hand, they don't have the luxury of being in a hockey-crazy market who will support them through tough times, like the Oilers and Flames. Basically, the Panthers need to put butts in seats to remain financially viable, and marketable players will do that. They can market the hell out of Luongo, and should see some success doing it. He won't instantly sell out the rink, but he will help.

Unfortunately, this is a short-term solution to a very long-term problem for a team like the Panthers.
Important part is the bolded, especially considering what Matty just said. Markstrom might turn out to be a hell of a talent, but it's not working out as well as they would have liked yet, and Bobby Lou is a big name that Panthers fans know already.

Seems like a good haul for the Panthers to me, especially considering Vancouver is retaining part of the salary.

lockman21 03-04-2014 02:29 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
This is a classic Dale Talon move. He's a GREAT GM for markets that aren't exactly thriving. You need to spend money, and bring in names to try and get the team in contention. He knows that, and Bobby Lou was a big win for FLA.

Vancouver in full melt down mode as well.

fonzz41 03-04-2014 02:35 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15164970)
Important part is the bolded, especially considering what Matty just said. Markstrom might turn out to be a hell of a talent, but it's not working out as well as they would have liked yet, and Bobby Lou is a big name that Panthers fans know already.

Seems like a good haul for the Panthers to me, especially considering Vancouver is retaining part of the salary.
:thumbsup (And obviously I meant Markstrom in my post before, not Backstrom. Sorry)

Luongo's "star" power mixed with his past history with the club will be one of the bigger draws the Panthers have had in a while. They can market every single game like a playoff game for the rest of the season probably... "Luongo's first game in a Panthers uniform against the Sabres in 12 years!" or whatever. It's silly, but it's what they will do. And they should.

fonzz41 03-04-2014 02:37 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Just came across this pic on Twitter...

https://twitter.com/MadelnCanada/sta...548096/photo/1

Don't feel bad for them. Not one bit.

TMoore4075 03-04-2014 02:39 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HallowBillies7 (Post 15164834)
Glad he's out of that cluster fuck finally. Funny part is him and Thomas are now teammates :lol, for now anyway.

Edit: how do the Canucks go from Schneider and Luongo to Eddie Lack all in less than a year? Bad moves.
Great day for Lou. Never been so happy for a non-Red Wings move. Didn't even think about Thomas and him together. Wonder who will be pumping whose tires. lol
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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15164868)
Writing is on the wall for Kesler.
Agreed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15164883)
Rumors coming out that the reason for Kesler/Luongo getting to this point is huge conflicts with Torts.
Not a surprise. Screw the Canucks.

lockman21 03-04-2014 02:40 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15165002)
:thumbsup (And obviously I meant Markstrom in my post before, not Backstrom. Sorry)

Luongo's "star" power mixed with his past history with the club will be one of the bigger draws the Panthers have had in a while. They can market every single game like a playoff game for the rest of the season probably... "Luongo's first game in a Panthers uniform against the Sabres in 12 years!" or whatever. It's silly, but it's what they will do. And they should.
I really hope Pirri settles in to a role there. They have some talent and some draft picks to make the future happen.

TMoore4075 03-04-2014 02:41 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
So Canucks taking part of Lou's salary too. Nice move by FLA.

lockman21 03-04-2014 02:41 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15165010)
Just came across this pic on Twitter...

https://twitter.com/MadelnCanada/sta...548096/photo/1

Don't feel bad for them. Not one bit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15165017)
Great day for Lou. Never been so happy for a non-Red Wings move. Didn't even think about Thomas and him together. Wonder who will be pumping whose tires. lol

Agreed.


Not a surprise. Screw the Canucks.
Basically.

lockman21 03-04-2014 02:45 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Blackhawks get David Rundblad from the Phoenix Coyotes of Glendale in Arizona.

Not sure why.

lockman21 03-04-2014 02:47 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Honestly feel like this is the start of a bigger deal, needing to add a defenseman to the roster before dealing another one.

Could obviously be wrong though. A 2nd round pick seems like a lot for Rundblad.

fonzz41 03-04-2014 02:48 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15165020)
I really hope Pirri settles in to a role there. They have some talent and some draft picks to make the future happen.
I hope so, too. It really sucks to see them floundering like this for so long. I just want something good to happen for them.

fonzz41 03-04-2014 02:55 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Luongo's revenge, 2021:

https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/44...945472/photo/1

EDIT: "Borrowed" this line ^ from Proteau. #creditwherecreditdue

lockman21 03-04-2014 02:55 PM
Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/44...945472/photo/1

Could get REALLLLLLL ugly for Vancouver if he retires early.


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