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~Crashintome89~ 12-09-2014 09:40 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
lol Flyers. OMG. They are just hilarious this season.

Tie the game up with 55 seconds left.

Spend two minutes inside the BJ's zone in overtime, and promptly give up a partial breakaway for the goal. :lol :lol

dmbetc 12-09-2014 10:05 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Yup, Kings still suck on the road. Sabres get a shutout against them. :lol

barbogast 12-09-2014 10:25 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Excellent game between the Caps and Lightning tonight. Both teams played exceptionally well.

kev87lads 12-09-2014 10:57 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15712780)
lol Flyers. OMG. They are just hilarious this season.

Tie the game up with 55 seconds left.

Spend two minutes inside the BJ's zone in overtime, and promptly give up a partial breakaway for the goal. :lol :lol

So much this.

salrx95 12-10-2014 07:04 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Those poor family jewels.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=UUi...&v=Pcy7-9atkWA

barbogast 12-10-2014 07:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15713247)

I love how the ref gave him a push to help him get to the bench :lol Awesome

salrx95 12-10-2014 07:40 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 15713249)
I love how the ref gave him a push to help him get to the bench :lol Awesome

As my 6 year old would so eloquently say..."he got him in the nuts".

barbogast 12-10-2014 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15713261)
As my 6 year old would so eloquently say..."he got him in the nuts".

Or as Eric Cartman would put it, "he got him SQUAAA in the NUTZZZ!!"

TMoore4075 12-10-2014 08:06 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 15712838)
Excellent game between the Caps and Lightning tonight. Both teams played exceptionally well.

Thank you for that btw. A win tonight and Wings can take over 1st in the Atlantic/East.

Also, holy crap Minny. 4 in the 3rd?

barbogast 12-10-2014 08:06 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
So Ovechkin scored 40 seconds into last night's game and then scored as time expired, for an elapsed time of 3,559 seconds between goals. Wow. That's gotta be some kind of record.

edit: nope. On 1/23/02 Michael Handzus scored 23 seconds into a game and then again with 3 seconds left for an elapsed time of 3,574 seconds. Ovie is second. Damn you, Elias Sports Bureau

lockman21 12-10-2014 08:07 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15713247)

Is it sad that is my absolute worst nightmare every time I take the ice? Not worried about my face, teeth, neck, etc. I just don't wanna take a shot to the dick.

lockman21 12-10-2014 08:08 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 15713278)
So Ovechkin scored 40 seconds into last night's game and then scored as time expired, for an elapsed time of 3,559 seconds between goals. Wow. That's gotta be some kind of record.

:lol That EN goal was such a dick move. There's literally no reason to do that. God, I hate Ovechkin.

barbogast 12-10-2014 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15713281)
:lol That EN goal was such a dick move. There's literally no reason to do that. God, I hate Ovechkin.

Meh. Tampa left their net empty and Backstrom won the draw clean. No big deal in my opinion. Haters gonna hate I guess.

hailtopitt 12-10-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15712509)
He made such a big deal about that brawl with islanders 2 years ago and how it's bad for hockey and it doesn't belong in the sport yet he was employing Cooke and this year brought in Downie. Those guys are not exactly choir boys and play dirty on the wrong side of the rules "code" often. Downie can be effective player like last night when under control but he was cheap a couple of times versus islanders and he has a history as did Cooke.

It just comes across rather hypocritical to me. That's all.

yea pretty much everyone outside of pittsburgh feels this way, but here's my take:

Matt Cooke totally reformed himself shortly after that brawl, most likely under the direction of Mario. He stayed clean for basically the rest of his tenure as a penguin and i give Cooke, and Mario, a lot of credit for that. I think Lemieux did the best job he could at backing up his word. Let's not act like the Isles weren't total goons and went WAY over the line that night

Also, and i sympathize with Mario/the pens for this, if the league isn't going to start doing a better job of policing dirty play, the Penguins are at a distinct disadvantage. Lemieux tried to pioneer a clean play movement that the rest of the league wanted no part of. So in turn the penguins got bullied for a few years after that. And then the Sean Thronton ASSAULT on Brooks Orpik happened along with the subsequent punishment (which was an absolute joke btw)...Well, enough was enough and the Penguins have finally said that if the rest of the League is unwilling then we better do something about it. Hence the new coach, Steve Downie, Robert Bortuzzo etc...

jrkarger 12-10-2014 09:22 AM

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The move to bring in Downie was more of a "can't beat 'em join 'em" type thing, IMO. The Pens can't have another post season allowing the likes of Dubinski and Staal to absolutely beat on Crosby like a ginger step child.

From the little I've seen so far this season it seem like the Pens have stepped up their physicality.

jrkarger 12-10-2014 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15712056)
:lol

Rick Tochett would be my next choice since he's back on the staff

I have a Recchi throwback complete with the badger bob patch. If I were to get another one I'd probably go Francis or Coffey.

Or this...

http://www.icejerseys.com/products/H...8374/?pstart=1

EDIT: nhl.com is selling a white Mario 1991-1992 era jersey. I hope they are gauging interest in bringing back those jerseys full time. Worked for the Sabres.

http://shop.nhl.com/Pittsburgh_Pengu...rowback_Jersey

hailtopitt 12-10-2014 09:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jrkarger (Post 15713387)
The move to bring in Downie was more of a "can't beat 'em join 'em" type thing, IMO. The Pens can't have another post season allowing the likes of Dubinski and Staal to absolutely beat on Crosby like a ginger step child.

From the little I've seen so far this season it seem like the Pens have stepped up their physicality.

that's exactly it

Lemieux tried to spearhead an important movement, and you would a think a voice like Mario's would be heard, but to no avail. hockey wants to stay in the caveman era so Mario basically said "fuck it, might as well try to win then."

hailtopitt 12-10-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jrkarger (Post 15713403)
I have a Recchi throwback complete with the badger bob patch. If I were to get another one I'd probably go Francis or Coffey.

Or this...

http://www.icejerseys.com/products/H...8374/?pstart=1

that's pretty cool

this is my favorite sweater that i own right now

http://www.coolhockey.com/images/hpitrbkks25t_s.jpg

Rebecca De Mornay 12-10-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15713247)

:lol the announcer says during the slow motion replay "it looks like it hit him in the --- inner thigh?"

another win for CBJ tho, right back in it now somehow, having Dubi back makes a huge difference.

jrkarger 12-10-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15713420)
that's pretty cool

this is my favorite sweater that i own right now

http://www.coolhockey.com/images/hpitrbkks25t_s.jpg

BA stuff right there!

lockman21 12-10-2014 10:26 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 15713284)
Meh. Tampa left their net empty and Backstrom won the draw clean. No big deal in my opinion. Haters gonna hate I guess.

Not really, but ok.

fonzz41 12-10-2014 12:26 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15713247)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15713279)
Is it sad that is my absolute worst nightmare every time I take the ice? Not worried about my face, teeth, neck, etc. I just don't wanna take a shot to the dick.

Not sad. True. Recently I didn't have a cup for a game I was reffing (no idea how it didn't end up in my bag)... I have never been more scared in my life on the ice. And it was a high school game so it wasn't like little kids who can't even lift the puck off the ice (although little kids are scary too because they can't control their sticks :lol). I was petrified.

I mean, I once played a couple scrimmage games with a bunch of Utah Grizzlies (our minor league club) back in the day and had John Erskine bearing down on me. Not even that was as scary as reffing a game with no cup. :lol

kev87lads 12-10-2014 12:52 PM

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I'm sad that the Flyers are so bad.

~Crashintome89~ 12-10-2014 12:59 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Yeah, especially considering the fact the NHL would never let us win the McDavid lottery.

salrx95 12-10-2014 02:09 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15713371)
yea pretty much everyone outside of pittsburgh feels this way, but here's my take:

Matt Cooke totally reformed himself shortly after that brawl, most likely under the direction of Mario. He stayed clean for basically the rest of his tenure as a penguin and i give Cooke, and Mario, a lot of credit for that. I think Lemieux did the best job he could at backing up his word. Let's not act like the Isles weren't total goons and went WAY over the line that night

Also, and i sympathize with Mario/the pens for this, if the league isn't going to start doing a better job of policing dirty play, the Penguins are at a distinct disadvantage. Lemieux tried to pioneer a clean play movement that the rest of the league wanted no part of. So in turn the penguins got bullied for a few years after that. And then the Sean Thronton ASSAULT on Brooks Orpik happened along with the subsequent punishment (which was an absolute joke btw)...Well, enough was enough and the Penguins have finally said that if the rest of the League is unwilling then we better do something about it. Hence the new coach, Steve Downie, Robert Bortuzzo etc...

The islander that night who went over the line was Trevor Gillies, a total meathead who didn't deserve to be in the nhl. He is one that had the dirty elbow on Tangradi (sp?) and then taunted him. A guy like that doesn't belong in the nhl.

I didn't have a problem with pretty much everything else. You guys had it coming and frankly, I was glad to see the Islanders stick up for themselves. Some of our young guys like Hamonic grew up that night.

I understand what you are saying with the other stuff but Detroit doesn't employ those guys to protect Dats and Zetts. While I understand the rivalry dynamics with the Patrick division teams, it obviously can done.

He is still my favorite non islander ever and still angry over Graves breaking his arm with the slash and I still feel cheated that cancer and injuries robbed me of watching him more.

fonzz41 12-10-2014 03:17 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15714224)
The islander that night who went over the line was Trevor Gillies, a total meathead who didn't deserve to be in the nhl. He is one that had the dirty elbow on Tangradi (sp?) and then taunted him. A guy like that doesn't belong in the nhl.

I didn't have a problem with pretty much everything else. You guys had it coming and frankly, I was glad to see the Islanders stick up for themselves. Some of our young guys like Hamonic grew up that night.

I understand what you are saying with the other stuff but Detroit doesn't employ those guys to protect Dats and Zetts. While I understand the rivalry dynamics with the Patrick division teams, it obviously can done.

He is still my favorite non islander ever and still angry over Graves breaking his arm with the slash and I still feel cheated that cancer and injuries robbed me of watching him more.

But that's the thing about today's NHL, you very rarely have the total meatheads in the game now. Guys like Parros retires, Bissonnette is out of a job, guys like Orr are getting sent down to the minors.

The Steve Downies and Matt Cookes and Cody McLeods (guys who can play regular minutes) are the norm for teams in terms of protection. I like it. Sad to see some of these enforcers losing their jobs, but I also like seeing talent on the ice. Teams like Detroit have those types just as much as the next team.

And I didn't reply to your injury update, but glad to hear things are going well!

lockman21 12-10-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15713907)
Not sad. True. Recently I didn't have a cup for a game I was reffing (no idea how it didn't end up in my bag)... I have never been more scared in my life on the ice. And it was a high school game so it wasn't like little kids who can't even lift the puck off the ice (although little kids are scary too because they can't control their sticks :lol). I was petrified.

I mean, I once played a couple scrimmage games with a bunch of Utah Grizzlies (our minor league club) back in the day and had John Erskine bearing down on me. Not even that was as scary as reffing a game with no cup. :lol

:lol Little kids can be more terrifying than adults because sticks are flying everywhere.

I think I told you this story before, but one time I showed up for rat hockey with my buddy and he forgot his cup. He really wanted to skate so he just said "fuck it" and wadded up his shirt and shoved it in his pants.

hailtopitt 12-10-2014 04:00 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15714224)
The islander that night who went over the line was Trevor Gillies, a total meathead who didn't deserve to be in the nhl. He is one that had the dirty elbow on Tangradi (sp?) and then taunted him. A guy like that doesn't belong in the nhl.

I didn't have a problem with pretty much everything else. You guys had it coming and frankly, I was glad to see the Islanders stick up for themselves. Some of our young guys like Hamonic grew up that night.

I understand what you are saying with the other stuff but Detroit doesn't employ those guys to protect Dats and Zetts. While I understand the rivalry dynamics with the Patrick division teams, it obviously can done.

He is still my favorite non islander ever and still angry over Graves breaking his arm with the slash and I still feel cheated that cancer and injuries robbed me of watching him more.

fair enough. but the Red Wings still have their share of tough guys, and are just one example out of 30 teams so it's not that fair of a comparison. I think Lemieux's intentions were in the right place, maybe his platform and delivery were a bit off but i'm glad he wanted to pioneer a movement that hockey absolute NEEDS. cheap shots, head shots and fighting are dangerous and outdated and are terrible for the sport IMO...i think it's more courageous than it is hypocritical to make that statement while Matt Cooke was still on the roster

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15714356)
But that's the thing about today's NHL, you very rarely have the total meatheads in the game now. Guys like Parros retires, Bissonnette is out of a job, guys like Orr are getting sent down to the minors.

The Steve Downies and Matt Cookes and Cody McLeods (guys who can play regular minutes) are the norm for teams in terms of protection. I like it. Sad to see some of these enforcers losing their jobs, but I also like seeing talent on the ice. Teams like Detroit have those types just as much as the next team.

And I didn't reply to your injury update, but glad to hear things are going well!

:thumbsup was waiting for the obligatory Matty weigh-in

did not disappoint

salrx95 12-10-2014 05:05 PM

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Did you guys see the Martin hit. I think martin will get suspended, though it will be unfair. It's terrible to see anyone get hurt but I really feel like Ballard caused it by turning so so late and also lowering himself. That was not a good idea to turn late and lower yourself as Martin was committed to the hit and there was nothing he could do at that point. His arm/elbow makes contact with Ballards head but ballard lowered himself.

The hit definitely turned the momentum and game around.

I was never more nervous for an injured guy during a hockey game than I was for Ballard. When he started convulsing and they turned him to his side , I was so scared.

The video is not the greatest of angles.

http://m.espn.go.com/nhl/story?storyId=12007352

fonzz41 12-10-2014 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15714521)
Did you guys see the Martin hit. I think martin will get suspended, though it will be unfair. It's terrible to see anyone get hurt but I really feel like Ballard caused it by turning so so late and also lowering himself. That was not a good idea to turn late and lower yourself as Martin was committed to the hit and there was nothing he could do at that point. His arm/elbow makes contact with Ballards head but ballard lowered himself.

The hit definitely turned the momentum and game around.

I was never more nervous for an injured guy during a hockey game than I was for Ballard. When he started convulsing and they turned him to his side , I was so scared.

The video is not the greatest of angles.

http://m.espn.go.com/nhl/story?storyId=12007352

Sheesh. Glad to see he's ok as well.

I agree with you, that's tough for both guys. Ballard is trying to avoid the hit and turn away. It's a natural inclination, and Ballard actually turned the correct way (if he was going to turn at all) by not presenting his numbers to Martin.

Martin comes in completely within the rules - including tucked elbows - and is within bounds to complete the check. Yes, his elbow extends when he makes the hit, but I wouldn't say it OVER extends. The problem was, Ballard's head happened to get crunched between the elbow and the glass. His head smacking against the ice like that as he fell certainly didn't help.

It definitely wasn't "dirty". Isn't Martin almost perennially a leader in hits for NYI? The guy knows how to hit. But in today's NHL, which focuses so much on head injuries, I wouldn't be surprised to see him sit for a bit. Especially considering the precedence set by Bortuzzo's suspension a week ago.


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