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bradshaw06 04-05-2017 10:46 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16760405)
i'll be honest with you, and this is my hockey fan talking. not my penguins fan talking i promise you. Giroux is barely a 2nd liner.

never had a 30 goal season and only topped 80 points twice in 9 seasons

three straight years as a minus player, and only 1 good season on the power play

Voracek and Simmonds are your best forwards IMO and should be building the offense around them, especially Simmonds. He just looks so much more dangerous than everyone else IMO.
Had my cousin in law a few years ago attempt to argue with me that Giroux would be a hall of famer. I just let time tell the story.

aeroshady 04-05-2017 10:48 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
I understand where Barbs is coming from.

That said, I only like avoiding teams in the first round. After that, I say bring it on. I would love to get a shot at the Caps again this year. I would also like to renew our rivalry with the Pens. Looks like it will have to be ECFs to get that shot this year though. Hopefully the Rangers can take out the Habs at least.

fonzz41 04-05-2017 10:58 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 16760406)
Giroux was definitely not top 250 material this season...
Top 300 maybe, but yeah.

Lcsulla 04-05-2017 10:59 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16760280)
Wish I could agree with you, my friend, but I'm rooting for a Duchene trade. And it's not because I don't like him. He's worked his ass off for the Avs. Always gives 100%, is a fantastic team guy, has rounded out his 3-zone game, and is one of the most visible guys in the Denver community in terms of charity and such. A great guy for any team to have. He can get streaky, but that shouldn't take away from all the positives.

However, they've got to move someone in order to land some solid defensive help. I agree on keeping MacKinnon. He is a franchise centerpiece. And although Landeskog isn't putting up the points that I think people expected, he has something about him that I think the Avs need. A lot of Peter Forsberg in his game in terms of combining finesse with grit. I also think this season has been important for his evolution as a captain. I've said this a couple times, but on many nights it looks like he's dragging the team to the season's finish line through pure force of will. I'm interested to see him next season with the lessons he's learned this season.

Duchene is simply going to be their best bet for fetching a solid return. And if moving him is what it takes to start improving defensively, I'm for it. He's enticing trade bait precisely because of the things you and I have talked about. It pains me to say it, but it's true.

What softens the blow of moving him is also what you pointed out: The youngsters. Raantanen has been fantastic, Compher has looked great, Jost has all the potential in the world, and Andrighetto was a HELLUVA pick up by Sakic. As those guys continue to develop, they will replace Duchene's production.

Can't wait for next season!
Agreed, he does everything a captain should do and then some. Absolutely perfect fit out there, great person and great player.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 16760319)
However, I can't fault Barbs for wanting to avoid the snake that keeps biting him. :lol
True! :lol

Quote:
Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16760341)
i know i agree. it's just the news was so devastating about Letang. Would've maybe been different had we known right away...but 3 games before the playoffs we get a bomb dropped on us after expecting him to be healthy and ready to go.

sucks
Yup, that is a rough one to swallow, timing is awful.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16760355)
A part of me is happy the Kings didn't make the playoffs. Very satisfying after they fucked over Dustin. Also should be the nail in the coffin for Sutter.
Agreed, I never really want to face LA in a conference championship because they can dial it up so I cannot say I am sorry they are out but what they did to Dustin was a dick move.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16760405)
i'll be honest with you, and this is my hockey fan talking. not my penguins fan talking i promise you. Giroux is barely a 2nd liner.

never had a 30 goal season and only topped 80 points twice in 9 seasons

three straight years as a minus player, and only 1 good season on the power play

Voracek and Simmonds are your best forwards IMO and should be building the offense around them, especially Simmonds. He just looks so much more dangerous than everyone else IMO.
This, 100%.

TheLastPig 04-05-2017 11:00 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Member when Crosby passed the baton to Giroux for best player in the world? :lol :lol :lol :lol

Roose13 04-05-2017 11:03 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16760396)
Agreed, may as well be watching ping pong it goes back and forth so much it is a bore. I would watch if they spotted each team 100 points and played 5 or 10 minutes, the game would still last over an hour given all the fowls, timeouts and free throws.
I hate it when too many fowls get on the field at Wells Fargo Center too.

aeroshady 04-05-2017 11:06 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
I hear that the NHL team in Anaheim is Fowl.

hailtopitt 04-05-2017 11:07 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
awww yea i meember

JRS1386 04-05-2017 11:08 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aeroshady (Post 16760437)
I hear that the NHL team in Anaheim is Fowl.
They are mighty fowl

TheLastPig 04-05-2017 11:10 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
This is a bit random but the fowl talk has me thinking.

Does anyone know why the thrashers logo was some kind of bird? Is thrashing something birds do? I think that was an attack for one of the bird pokemon :lol

YouNeverKnow25 04-05-2017 11:15 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
a thrasher is a bird.

bradshaw06 04-05-2017 11:17 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Kind of ironic Cam Fowler plays for the ducks...

unccrombie 04-05-2017 11:24 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25 (Post 16760457)
a thrasher is a bird.
wonder if he knows a penguin is also a bird

YouNeverKnow25 04-05-2017 11:25 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
no a penguin is a pokemon

jrkarger 04-05-2017 11:26 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
https://media.giphy.com/media/s1j8lCWpdlH7q/giphy.gif

unccrombie 04-05-2017 11:26 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
ohokbye.

bradshaw06 04-05-2017 11:32 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Well, maybe dinosaurs have more in common with present-day birds than they do with reptiles. Look at the pubic bone: turned backward, just like a bird. Look at the vertebrae: full of airsacs and hollows, just like a bird. And even the word 'raptor' means "bird of prey."

barbogast 04-05-2017 11:33 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16760447)
This is a bit random but the fowl talk has me thinking.

Does anyone know why the thrashers logo was some kind of bird? Is thrashing something birds do? I think that was an attack for one of the bird pokemon :lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_thrasher#State_bird

DMBstandUP1984 04-05-2017 11:35 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
I think I'm going to take Bruins for the upset if they have to play Washington.

barbogast 04-05-2017 11:36 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DMBstandUP1984 (Post 16760491)
I think I'm going to take Bruins for the upset if they have to play Washington.
Cool. :thumbsup

DMBstandUP1984 04-05-2017 11:37 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
I just wanted to get that hot take out there now.

pathetic 04-05-2017 11:38 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DMBstandUP1984 (Post 16760491)
I think I'm going to take Bruins for the upset if they have to play Washington.
not happening

TheLastPig 04-05-2017 11:51 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Sorry Im not up on my state birds and bird types guys.

hailtopitt 04-05-2017 11:59 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
speaking of fowl, that Cam Fowler injury looked ugly

Dramageek 04-05-2017 12:08 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16760428)
Member when Crosby passed the baton to Giroux for best player in the world? :lol :lol :lol :lol
OMGCG!!! :lol :lol

lockman21 04-05-2017 12:22 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pathetic (Post 16760205)
Think of it like someone new walking into your bar. I drink too, I just don't drink here that often. Don't be sensitive like Soccer fans
Quote:
Originally Posted by rickyh24 (Post 16760209)
And it doesn't bother anyone in any other thread :lol :lol yet you guys do this every year. See what we are saying?
Not at all.

lockman21 04-05-2017 12:41 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Fuckin' bummer about Letang.

~Crashintome89~ 04-05-2017 12:43 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
wow, a pens fan thinks claude giroux isn't good.

how about that?

hailtopitt 04-05-2017 12:45 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16760599)
wow, a pens fan thinks claude giroux isn't good.

how about that?
figured you couldn't see through the fog. that's what i get for expecting reason and logic from Flyers fans.

and conveniently left out the praise i gave to Voracek and Simmonds

hailtopitt 04-05-2017 12:46 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16760597)
Fuckin' bummer about Letang.
you're tellin' me...

K270 04-05-2017 12:47 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
I admit to not paying to much attention to this thread, but when did the NHL start playing on a field? I thought it was called Home Ice.

TheLastPig 04-05-2017 12:49 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K270 (Post 16760612)
I admit to not paying to much attention to this thread, but when did the NHL start playing on a field? I thought it was called Home Ice.
:lol :lol

hailtopitt 04-05-2017 12:50 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K270 (Post 16760612)
I admit to not paying to much attention to this thread, but when did the NHL start playing on a field? I thought it was called Home Ice.
this is the field hockey thread dude

barbogast 04-05-2017 12:51 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K270 (Post 16760612)
I admit to not paying to much attention to this thread, but when did the NHL start playing on a field? I thought it was called Home Ice.
:lol :lol :lol

Perfect

jrkarger 04-05-2017 12:52 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K270 (Post 16760612)
I admit to not paying to much attention to this thread, but when did the NHL start playing on a field? I thought it was called Home Ice.
Goooood, Gooooooooood

Everything is going according to plan

Brohan_Santana 04-05-2017 12:55 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrkarger (Post 16760283)
What everyone else said, Climb.

Letang was just as important as Sid during last year's run. He damn-near single-handily beat San Jose in game 6 last year. He gives you 30 min a game of goal line to goal line play.
I mean it's not like they don't have a player that's severely outplaying what his ceiling really is in Justin Schultz. (for league minimum)

Healthy Matta and Daley and the Penguins are fine

Brohan_Santana 04-05-2017 12:56 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16760300)
doubt the Pens get past CBJ in the first round without Letang
as long as they have home field advantage they should get by CBJ in 6 or 7 games. But CBJ will certainly bruise them up badly, that team is v dirty

TheLastPig 04-05-2017 12:57 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16760628)
I mean it's not like they don't have a player that's severely outplaying what his ceiling really is in Justin Schultz. (for league minimum)

Healthy Matta and Daley and the Penguins are fine
Neither of those guys have played up to their ability this year though. And Daley having another lower body injury, you dont know how much it will be nagging him when he does come back.

hailtopitt 04-05-2017 12:57 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16760628)
I mean it's not like they don't have a player that's severely outplaying what his ceiling really is in Justin Schultz. (for league minimum)

Healthy Matta and Daley and the Penguins are fine
no they aren't fine

and the only time Schultz was producing was when he was getting 2nd pair minutes (i.e. when Letang was healthy)

his production has plummeted since getting top pair minutes

Brohan_Santana 04-05-2017 12:59 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16760355)
A part of me is happy the Kings didn't make the playoffs. Very satisfying after they fucked over Dustin. Also should be the nail in the coffin for Sutter.
Dude won't be in the league past 2018-2019, he's getting old and the production isn't there. That contract is rough and Kings have to eat it through 2021. Unless they can dump it on a team that needs to reach the cap floor.

Kopitar was and has been the leader on the ice.

Brohan_Santana 04-05-2017 01:00 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16760355)
A part of me is happy the Kings didn't make the playoffs. Very satisfying after they fucked over Dustin. Also should be the nail in the coffin for Sutter.
oh and Sutter is old and dumb :thumbsup

lockman21 04-05-2017 01:03 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K270 (Post 16760612)
I admit to not paying to much attention to this thread, but when did the NHL start playing on a field? I thought it was called Home Ice.
:lol Post of the thread.

Brohan_Santana 04-05-2017 01:06 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16760599)
wow, a pens fan thinks claude giroux isn't good.

how about that?
Do you think Claud Giroux is good???

barbogast 04-05-2017 01:07 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Guys, I just wanna say I love that we've crushed like 5 or 6 pages today. Best time of year.

hailtopitt 04-05-2017 01:08 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16760645)
Guys, I just wanna say I love that we've crushed like 5 or 6 pages today. Best time of year.
just wait til next wednesday

it's shaping up like we're going have to best 1st round matchups we've seen in years

Brohan_Santana 04-05-2017 01:13 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16760648)
just wait til next wednesday

it's shaping up like we're going have to best 1st round matchups we've seen in years
Habs/Rags
Jackets/Penns

both should be great matchups

If the Bruins fall to #8, Caps/Bruins will be great to watch. And then Leafs/Sens will get the 7 P USA/CNBC treatment

Hawks v Blues/Preds will be great with either team.

Pacific matches are still way up in the air

lockman21 04-05-2017 01:20 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16760645)
Guys, I just wanna say I love that we've crushed like 5 or 6 pages today. Best time of year.
Amen. I can't even keep up.

Really, really hoping the Hawks get Calgary and not Nashville.

lockman21 04-05-2017 01:22 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16760648)
just wait til next wednesday

it's shaping up like we're going have to best 1st round matchups we've seen in years
Dude, I know. I was really hoping for an Anaheim/SJS matchup too.

hailtopitt 04-05-2017 01:25 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16760673)
Dude, I know. I was really hoping for an Anaheim/SJS matchup too.
Oilers v Sharks could be interesting if that happens

tons of talent on the ice if nothing else

barbogast 04-05-2017 01:27 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16760669)
Amen. I can't even keep up.

Really, really hoping the Hawks get Calgary and not Nashville.
I'm sure Nashville is hoping the same thing :lol

Brohan_Santana 04-05-2017 01:32 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16760682)
I'm sure Nashville is hoping the same thing :lol
I'm sure Nashville would like to enjoy and actual home game with an advantage

fonzz41 04-05-2017 02:19 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16760645)
Guys, I just wanna say I love that we've crushed like 5 or 6 pages today. Best time of year.
Yeah, can barely keep up by backreading.

But to sum up:

- Fowls are bad
- I am rattled by the playoff posters
- OMGCG is Top 300 now
- Home Field is a big deal in the NHL playoffs

fonzz41 04-05-2017 02:20 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16760636)
Dude won't be in the league past 2018-2019, he's getting old and the production isn't there. That contract is rough and Kings have to eat it through 2021. Unless they can dump it on a team that needs to reach the cap floor.

Kopitar was and has been the leader on the ice.
You shut your trap.

You're talking about the future captain of the Vegas Knights.

Brohan_Santana 04-05-2017 02:36 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16760743)
You shut your trap.



You're talking about the future captain of the Vegas Knights.


I thought that Mike Richards took that honor. Eight Ball giveaway for 18+


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dmbetc 04-05-2017 03:56 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16760636)
Dude won't be in the league past 2018-2019, he's getting old and the production isn't there. That contract is rough and Kings have to eat it through 2021. Unless they can dump it on a team that needs to reach the cap floor.

Kopitar was and has been the leader on the ice.
Brown's captaincy was his best asset. Kings taking that away devalues him, imo. It only hurt themselves with trade value. It was an awful move. Was 100% political.

Brown was a better player than Kopi this year.

rickyh24 04-05-2017 04:00 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16760560)
Not at all.


Not surprised.

Brohan_Santana 04-05-2017 04:03 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16760805)
Brown's captaincy was his best asset. Kings taking that away devalues him, imo. It only hurt themselves with trade value. It was an awful move. Was 100% political.



Brown was a better player than Kopi this year.


Brown is aging and hasn't been the same since the most recent lockout. Kopitar is the best all-around player on that Kings team outside *maybe* Doughty.


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dmbetc 04-05-2017 04:11 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16760811)
Brown is aging and hasn't been the same since the most recent lockout. Kopitar is the best all-around player on that Kings team outside *maybe* Doughty.


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Not saying Kopi isn't a better all around player than Brown. I'm saying the move was political and they handeled it extremely poorly. Didn't disagree that Brown's on ice production has trickled downward. Spoken to him plenty about it, glad you can see the obvious though :thumbsup

Brohan_Santana 04-05-2017 04:16 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16760815)
Not saying Kopi isn't a better all around player than Brown. I'm saying the move was political and they handeled it extremely poorly. Didn't disagree that Brown's on ice production has trickled downward. Spoken to him plenty about it, glad you can see the obvious though :thumbsup


Did you tell him not to suck?


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Lcsulla 04-05-2017 04:39 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16760642)
:lol Post of the thread.
The one about Benn being a center is up there as well. :)

bradshaw06 04-05-2017 05:33 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
What is going on with okposo? Just read he is in ICU

Dramageek 04-05-2017 06:44 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 16760884)
What is going on with okposo? Just read he is in ICU
Yikes. I hope he's okay!

Uh oh, Caps! Hold on for one more period and it's another President's Trophy! Get the banner ready!

fonzz41 04-05-2017 07:42 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
If the Caps keep winning Presidents Trophies, they're not going to have room for a Stanley Cup banner.

Climb2safety 04-05-2017 08:07 PM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Time for the second season

~Crashintome89~ 04-06-2017 05:40 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16760603)
figured you couldn't see through the fog. that's what i get for expecting reason and logic from Flyers fans.

and conveniently left out the praise i gave to Voracek and Simmonds
In the past six or seven years, Claude Giroux is in the top ten overall for points. So no, you're wrong. He's actually pretty good.

lockman21 04-06-2017 06:52 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
lol I love that we're arguing about the talents of Claude Giroux and Dustin Brown right now.

aeroshady 04-06-2017 07:04 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
So glad the Caps won the presidents trophy again :lol

It always makes me laugh when the weight of the world is on that team heading into the playoffs.

Roose13 04-06-2017 07:10 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Anyone who thinks Claude Giroux isn't good (Brohan) should leave this thread. Now, as for being great... that's a different story.

barbogast 04-06-2017 07:36 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aeroshady (Post 16761101)
So glad the Caps won the presidents trophy again :lol

It always makes me laugh when the weight of the world is on that team heading into the playoffs.
Yeah it's just a laugh factory

~Crashintome89~ 04-06-2017 07:52 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16761169)
Yeah it's just a laugh factory
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/201665/trololo-o.gif

Brohan_Santana 04-06-2017 07:54 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 16761116)
Anyone who thinks Claude Giroux isn't good (Brohan) should leave this thread. Now, as for being great... that's a different story.


Claude Giroux is decent. I never said he wasn't. I just asked Crash what he thought. Maybe you should actually start reading things instead of insinuating. I mean aren't you supposed to be a journalist?

Claude Giroux isn't what the Flyers need though.


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Roose13 04-06-2017 07:55 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16760644)
Do you think Claud Giroux is good???
When you write something like this, you're saying a player isn't good. Don't play dumb, Brohan.

Brohan_Santana 04-06-2017 07:59 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 16761198)
When you write something like this, you're saying a player isn't good. Don't play dumb, Brohan.


You're insinuating a lot from a simple question, and you're completely wrong.

If you can read I called Dustin Brown bad and I asked Crash (who has yet to respond) if CG is good


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Roose13 04-06-2017 08:01 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Do you think Claude Giroux is good?

Roose13 04-06-2017 08:03 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16761020)
In the past six or seven years, Claude Giroux is in the top ten overall for points. So no, you're wrong. He's actually pretty good.
And this is all we need to know.

dmbetc 04-06-2017 08:06 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
:lol https://twitter.com/pkessel81/status/849990419496742915

~Crashintome89~ 04-06-2017 08:17 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16761202)
You're insinuating a lot from a simple question, and you're completely wrong.

If you can read I called Dustin Brown bad and I asked Crash (who has yet to respond) if CG is good


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I did respond. Not my fault you can't read.

Brohan_Santana 04-06-2017 08:18 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 16761207)
And this is all we need to know.


Even shitty players have the puck go off there stick to good players from time to time


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Brohan_Santana 04-06-2017 08:27 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Centers that are better than CG:

Crosby
Malkin
Backstrom
McDavid
Bergeron
Stamkos
Toews
Scheifelle
MacKinnon
Jamie Benn
Seguin
Getz
Kessler
Kopitar
Johansen

There's 15, and I'm probably missing a couple. CG isn't a top 15 center


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Roose13 04-06-2017 08:38 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16761228)
Centers that are better than CG:

Crosby
Malkin
Backstrom
McDavid
Bergeron
Stamkos
Toews
Scheifelle
MacKinnon
Jamie Benn
Seguin
Getz
Kessler
Kopitar
Johansen

There's 15, and I'm probably missing a couple. CG isn't a top 15 center


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You seem to equate good with being great. No one is doing that. Claude Giroux is a good player. He's just not a great player.

English is tough, I know.

Brohan_Santana 04-06-2017 08:42 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 16761240)
You seem to equate good with being great. No one is doing that. Claude Giroux is a good player. He's just not a great player.



English is tough, I know.


So below average is considered 'good' now?


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Roose13 04-06-2017 08:44 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
The fact you're calling Claude Giroux "below average" is just wrong.

There are 120 centers eligible for active lineups. Giroux is still a top 20 center in the league. That's the definition of good. I don't know why I'm wasting my time with this.

JRS1386 04-06-2017 08:44 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16761244)
So below average is considered 'good' now?


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You went from calling him not good to decent to now below average. What the hell is going on with you.

Brohan_Santana 04-06-2017 08:45 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 16761250)
You went from calling him not good to decent to now below average. What the hell is going on with you.


When I actually started looking around the League I realized how bad he actually is


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Brohan_Santana 04-06-2017 08:48 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 16761247)
The fact you're calling Claude Giroux "below average" is just wrong.

There are 120 centers eligible for active lineups. Giroux is still a top 20 center in the league. That's the definition of good. I don't know why I'm wasting my time with this.


He would be a 2nd or 3rd line center on most teams not named Flyers.

What good has come from CG's captaincy?


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lockman21 04-06-2017 08:51 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Claude Giroux is at least in the top 250 players in the league.

bradshaw06 04-06-2017 08:55 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
He plays better when he has home field, if anything.

Brohan_Santana 04-06-2017 08:56 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Typing out and saying that gingers name has made me vomit

Congrats to the Caps for clinching their division. Time for the season to really start now


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lockman21 04-06-2017 09:15 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 16761272)
He plays better when he has home field, if anything.
Very true. He definitely excels when they have home field advantage.

fonzz41 04-06-2017 09:17 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
If Giroux had Kessel on his line we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Lcsulla 04-06-2017 09:30 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 16761116)
Anyone who thinks Claude Giroux isn't good (Brohan) should leave this thread. Now, as for being great... that's a different story.
This, he is a good player, well above average but I don't think anyone who follows hockey would ever consider him great or elite.

Dramageek 04-06-2017 09:51 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Claude Giroux is a National Hockey League center. True statement.

lockman21 04-06-2017 09:52 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 16761320)
Claude Giroux is a National Hockey League center. True statement.
Do you have sources to prove this?

Roose13 04-06-2017 09:55 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16761300)
This, he is a good player, well above average but I don't think anyone who follows hockey would ever consider him great or elite.
Exactly. He's the third best forward on the team now. Still a good player.

JRS1386 04-06-2017 10:00 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where home field advantage matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 16761275)
Typing out and saying that gingers name has made me vomit

Congrats to the Caps for clinching their division. Time for the season to really start now


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For the Capitals? Their season is over.

hailtopitt 04-06-2017 10:07 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16760946)
If the Caps keep winning Presidents Trophies, they're not going to have room for a Stanley Cup banner.
hey man, can we not say "Stanley Cup" and "Caps" in the same sentence until it's absolutely necessary? i got a little nauseous reading your post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16761020)
In the past six or seven years, Claude Giroux is in the top ten overall for points. So no, you're wrong. He's actually pretty good.
like i said, he's barely a 2nd line center

4 or 5 years ago he was good. not doubt about that. very good at times

but the last 2 seasons have been average or worse. mainly worse. he hasn't been good since 13-14

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 16761116)
Anyone who thinks Claude Giroux isn't good (Brohan) should leave this thread. Now, as for being great... that's a different story.
do you think 57 points and a -15 is good for a 1st line center? i don't, but then again i've been watching Crosby and Malkin for a decade so maybe my standards are higher

and the whole "if he had better linemates" argument is a cop out.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 16761320)
Claude Giroux is a National Hockey League center. True statement.
fact.

~Crashintome89~ 04-06-2017 10:13 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
good lord, some of you people are dumb.

rickyh24 04-06-2017 10:14 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
2 games for the cup check.

lockman21 04-06-2017 10:30 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rickyh24 (Post 16761360)
2 games for the cup check.
I have no problem with this in a vacuum, but the DoPS is so inconsistent it's amazing. I don't understand it.

I'm fine with this if they start making this stuff suspendable, but in the past - it hasn't been.

TheLastPig 04-06-2017 10:37 AM
Re: The NHL Thread (where the Presidents Trophy matters!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16761378)
I have no problem with this in a vacuum, but the DoPS is so inconsistent it's amazing. I don't understand it.

I'm fine with this if they start making this stuff suspendable, but in the past - it hasn't been.
Marchand is a repeat offender though.


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