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swordo84 06-24-2016 12:16 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Good chance Edmonton is a very different team by tomorrow morning. Talks of trading their pick, Subban, Jets, 2 d-men from Anaheim.

Its all happening!!

hailtopitt 06-24-2016 12:17 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16484091)
why not? as I said, Wings did it in 99. You trade someone, or something, to them so they don't take Murray. Back in 99 certain UFA's would still get you a draft pick back if they signed elsewhere. Wings traded Ulf Samuelsson's rights to Atlanta so they wouldn't take someone the Wings left unprotected (I forget who). So Thrashers got an extra pick out of it and then took the Wings backup goalie. Not saying it happens but it is a possibility if it comes to that.

if you forget who it was, then he wasn't as important or as promising as Matt Murray...

Alazais 06-24-2016 12:37 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Read somewhere the offer has improves to OEL, first round pick and Strome for 1st overall. Geez. That is a hard offer to pass up.

TMoore4075 06-24-2016 12:58 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16484130)
if you forget who it was, then he wasn't as important or as promising as Matt Murray...

That's fine but that's not where the conversation started. I brought it up as a possibility cause that has been used in the past, and because someone in the media also brought it up in the last few weeks. You said they couldn't make the deal with Vegas and yes they CAN but would they is a different argument.

TMoore4075 06-24-2016 12:59 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alazais (Post 16484176)
Read somewhere the offer has improves to OEL, first round pick and Strome for 1st overall. Geez. That is a hard offer to pass up.

Yotes that desperate to get Matthews? If that was offered, it would be tough for TO to pass it up but I also think it would be dumb for the Yotes to give that up.

hailtopitt 06-24-2016 01:06 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16484237)
That's fine but that's not where the conversation started. I brought it up as a possibility cause that has been used in the past, and because someone in the media also brought it up in the last few weeks. You said they couldn't make the deal with Vegas and yes they CAN but would they is a different argument.

i meant "no way" they could make a deal with Vegas as in Vegas would ask way too much in return

TheLastPig 06-24-2016 01:38 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Word is Ekblad 8 years 60 mil.

Love the kid but damnnnnnnn

lockman21 06-24-2016 01:39 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16484239)
Yotes that desperate to get Matthews? If that was offered, it would be tough for TO to pass it up but I also think it would be dumb for the Yotes to give that up.

He's from the Phoenix area, right?

fonzz41 06-24-2016 01:50 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16484314)
Word is Ekblad 8 years 60 mil.

Love the kid but damnnnnnnn

Worth every penny.

TMoore4075 06-24-2016 01:57 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16484253)
i meant "no way" they could make a deal with Vegas as in Vegas would ask way too much in return

I know that now but that's not how I read it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16484314)
Word is Ekblad 8 years 60 mil.

Love the kid but damnnnnnnn

As people on twitter have said, he's giving up some UFA years signing for 8 so you gotta pay up to get that. A little high now, but if he continues to be what we think, probably worth it in a couple years.
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16484317)
He's from the Phoenix area, right?

Yes, but give up a #1 D, a top level prospect and what could become a top level prospect to get one guy who is good but would be a marketing ploy? If he was from the midwest do you make that deal? That's how I would look at it. Are Matthews skills worth those 3 assets? My philosophy would be make your team the best it can and forget the rest of shit.

lockman21 06-24-2016 03:11 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16484348)
Yes, but give up a #1 D, a top level prospect and what could become a top level prospect to get one guy who is good but would be a marketing ploy? If he was from the midwest do you make that deal? That's how I would look at it. Are Matthews skills worth those 3 assets? My philosophy would be make your team the best it can and forget the rest of shit.

In all fairness, marketing for the Blackhawks is quiet the different beast than marketing the Phoenix...sorry...Arizona Coyotes.

I'm not saying I would do it, but they seem pretty hell bent on getting him as their cornerstone, and that has to be a huge reason why.

TMoore4075 06-24-2016 03:30 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16484509)
In all fairness, marketing for the Blackhawks is quiet the different beast than marketing the Phoenix...sorry...Arizona Coyotes.

I'm not saying I would do it, but they seem pretty hell bent on getting him as their cornerstone, and that has to be a huge reason why.

I get their team/fans will look at it differently than you or I would but I just think it could backfire.

It's gotten quiet out there the last few hours. Need more rumors and news.

lockman21 06-24-2016 04:18 PM

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lol Shaw's camp asking for 4.5

adios amigo

~Crashintome89~ 06-24-2016 04:59 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16484332)
Worth every penny.

took the words right out of my mouth.

TMoore4075 06-24-2016 05:02 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Vanek getting bought out.

TMoore4075 06-24-2016 05:52 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Rumors Bishop is asking for 7x7 from Calgary, TBL gave permission to talk, and Calgary might turn attention to Howard. If true, thanks Bishop.

~Crashintome89~ 06-24-2016 05:53 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
I think they go with Bishop. If they're already at the stage where they can talk to him about an extension, it's close.

trd1610 06-24-2016 06:00 PM

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If they can get Stamkos for that $8.5 million to stay and it means shipping Bishop off for picks and players I'm in favor of the move.

fonzz41 06-24-2016 06:04 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
So much for me just sitting around and waiting to watch the trades roll in...

They'll probably all start while I'm on my drive home.

lockman21 06-24-2016 06:07 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16484044)
Looks like Vanek gonna get bought out, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16484771)
Vanek getting bought out.

Hey, Tim, try and fuckin' keep up, would ya?

lockman21 06-24-2016 06:08 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16484871)
So much for me just sitting around and waiting to watch the trades roll in...

They'll probably all start while I'm on my drive home.

Exciting day at work for Matty!

TMoore4075 06-24-2016 06:09 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16484875)
Hey, Tim, try and fuckin' keep up, would ya?

I was reporting news you were reporting a rumor.

fonzz41 06-24-2016 06:18 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16484879)
Exciting day at work for Matty!

I cleaned my desk. It was awesome.
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16484883)
I was reporting news you were reporting a rumor.

Chris: Eklund

Tim: LeBrun

lockman21 06-24-2016 06:39 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16484902)
I cleaned my desk. It was awesome.

Chris: Eklund

Tim: LeBrun

Chris: McKenzie

Tim: Brohan

fonzz41 06-24-2016 06:40 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Speaking of McKenzie, the guy is reporting a lot of chatter between CGY and CBJ...

kev87lads 06-24-2016 08:32 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Eller to Caps.

Shaw to Habs.

lockman21 06-24-2016 08:54 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16484703)
lol Shaw's camp asking for 4.5

adios amigo

2 fur 2 wit deez rumors1!!!1!

lockman21 06-24-2016 08:57 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Honestly, fucking ecstatic with the Shaw trade. Hell of a return. Ryan Hartman should slot right in and do 90% of what Shaw did but with a little more skill and power than pure grit and scrapiness.

Will always and forever have a soft spot for Andrew Shaw, though. That little pest brought some special moments and had a hell of a personality along with it. Hope he gets paid, he deserves it after what he sacrificed for Chicago. Never forget "I LOVE SHIN PADS!" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk7eU0wSpew

TMoore4075 06-24-2016 09:00 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Keith is th size of a house now.

lockman21 06-24-2016 09:02 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Wait, Jesse Puljujarvi fell to 3? Really? Edmonton with ANOTHER forward?


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