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aeroshady 12-30-2013 05:03 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Rangers back at .500!!!! Oh wait...that is every other game....

fonzz41 12-30-2013 11:25 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Oduya is so underrated as a solid, dependable, 2nd tier d-man.

bonzo48280 12-31-2013 12:32 AM

The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
I think hjalmarsson is more of the secret than Oduya, and they are really the 1st pairing because they have been getting top assignments all year, because Seabrook sucks.

Anyway, Kings real good, Hawks way better.

bonzo48280 12-31-2013 01:02 AM

Hahahahahahah

@FaberBrandon: In the 2013 calendar year, the #Blackhawks played 113 total games and lost just 21 times in regulation.

fonzz41 12-31-2013 02:38 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 15008072)
I think hjalmarsson is more of the secret than Oduya, and they are really the 1st pairing because they have been getting top assignments all year, because Seabrook sucks.

Anyway, Kings real good, Hawks way better.

That's cool - wasn't really trying to compare, just making an observation about Oduya. But certainly Hjalmarsson has grown into playing a very solid role for the club.

kev87lads 12-31-2013 01:00 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Another SO win! First time the Flyers have won two shootouts in a row since 2006. lollerflyers.

And lollernucks while I'm at it.

hailtopitt 12-31-2013 01:04 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 15009081)
Another SO win! First time the Flyers have won two shootouts in a row since 2006. lollerflyers.

And lollernucks while I'm at it.

holy crap to the bolded, i thought DET was bad in the SO

Bron Yr Aur 12-31-2013 01:19 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15008362)
That's cool - wasn't really trying to compare, just making an observation about Oduya. But certainly Hjalmarsson has grown into playing a very solid role for the club.

I will agree with bonzo in that Hammer is the better player. He is just much more solid in the defensive zone. Almost never seems to make a mistake. Oduya is more dynamic with his quickness but tends to gamble a bit more and make a few more mistakes.

But even though folks look at Keith & Seabrook as the #1 D-pair, Oduya and Hjalmarsson is the pair that plays the most minutes against the toughest competition. Part of the reason the Hawks are so good is that those two can stifle opposing top lines and free up Keith & Seabrook to utilize their offensive skills a bit more.

Roose13 12-31-2013 02:15 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 15009081)
Another SO win! First time the Flyers have won two shootouts in a row since 2006. lollerflyers.

And lollernucks while I'm at it.

You have the stat wrong. From their PR when they email us the post game sheets:

Quote:

These two games mark the first time since March 6-8, 2006 that the Flyers have won consecutive games in the shootout.

bradshaw06 12-31-2013 02:43 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Team USA announced tomorrow. Any last minute predictions?

bonzo48280 12-31-2013 02:45 PM

Saad is making it

ZacBrown 12-31-2013 02:46 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15003698)
hahahaha, canada lost in a shootout.

hahaha USA loses to Canada!!! Takes first place. Happy New Years.

bradshaw06 12-31-2013 02:57 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...oices/4257385/

Kevin Allens predictions (he had access to meetings).
Parise-Kesler-Kane
JVR-Pavelski-Kessel
Brown-Backes-Callahan
Pacioretty-Stastny-Oshie

Extra: Wheeler, Stepan

Suter-Martin
McDonagh-Fowler
Orpik-Shattenkirk
JJ-Faulk

Miller
Quick
Howard

dmbetc 12-31-2013 02:58 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 15009313)
Team USA announced tomorrow. Any last minute predictions?

A bit worried about Brownie making it.

Bron Yr Aur 12-31-2013 03:01 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Dustin Brown....past his prime if you ask me. Brandon Saad is the better player and IMO should make it instead. Probably won't happen, though.

bonzo48280 12-31-2013 03:10 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Saad should make it over Callahan, Pacioretty, and Oshie

TMoore4075 12-31-2013 03:15 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Watching these old guys is brutal.

lockman21 12-31-2013 03:18 PM

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:lol First off...classic Hawks fan idiotic posts. 1 said Seabrool sucks and another saying 29 year old Brown is "past his prime". I love when Bron thinks hockey players are past their prime like they are on the same career clocks as NFL running backs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 15009359)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...oices/4257385/

Kevin Allens predictions (he had access to meetings).
Parise-Kesler-Kane
JVR-Pavelski-Kessel
Brown-Backes-Callahan
Pacioretty-Stastny-Oshie

Extra: Wheeler, Stepan

Suter-Martin
McDonagh-Fowler
Orpik-Shattenkirk
JJ-Faulk

Miller
Quick
Howard

I've heard that it's Miller's net. Which it should be.

Shocker leaving off Ryan and Yandle. USA is smoking crack leaving those two off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 15009363)
A bit worried about Brownie making it.

He'll make it!

kev87lads 12-31-2013 03:20 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 15009259)
You have the stat wrong. From their PR when they email us the post game sheets:

Whew. Good. Thanks, John.

Either way. They still suck in the SO.

Bron Yr Aur 12-31-2013 03:24 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15009417)
:lol First off...classic Hawks fan idiotic posts. 1 said Seabrool sucks and another saying 29 year old Brown is "past his prime". I love when Bron thinks hockey players are past their prime like they are on the same career clocks as NFL running backs.

Give me a break Chris. Brown was always one of the more overrated players in the league if you ask me. But he has not looked good this year.

But yes, forwards' prime years are generally 25-27.

lockman21 12-31-2013 03:54 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 15009445)
Give me a break Chris. Brown was always one of the more overrated players in the league if you ask me. But he has not looked good this year.

But yes, forwards' prime years are generally 25-27.

How much LA Kings hockey have you watched to make a statement like this?

I think Brown is rated extremely appropriately. He's only been in one all-star game, he's not a huge points guy, but brings a physicality to the game and is defensively very responsible. He takes away time and space very well, which will be very key in Sochi. Having the bigger ice is going to require guys that can do that.

Brown is a great choice.

And as for the age thing, look at tons of guys around the league. You're ridiculous. You don't even need to leave Chicago. Patrick Sharp has been getting better and better as he gets older, is having the best season of his life, and is 32. Wayne Gretzky still was putting up 130+ point seasons into his mid-30s. Jagr is still effective at 41, Selanne has clearly slowed down but was still great into his late 30s and early 40s.

To think that Brown is "past his prime" at 29 is hysterical.

dmbetc 12-31-2013 04:02 PM

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I wouldn't say that Brown has not looked good but he isn't on top of his game. That has a lot to do with injuries, some of which weren't publicly known. I believe he will find his way back to getting more points. But yes, he is still playing LA Kings/Brown hockey (hard hitting, wear down the opponent).

I know he is frustrated as he just signed a big contract and wanted to come out having a better year. It'll come though.

dmbetc 12-31-2013 04:32 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
NBC Sports Network is showing the Top 10 Toughest Places to Play right now. What will be #1?

lockman21 12-31-2013 04:43 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 15009580)
NBC Sports Network is showing the Top 10 Toughest Places to Play right now. What will be #1?

Right now or all time?

Chicago or Boston

Bron Yr Aur 12-31-2013 04:51 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15009502)
How much LA Kings hockey have you watched to make a statement like this?

I think Brown is rated extremely appropriately. He's only been in one all-star game, he's not a huge points guy, but brings a physicality to the game and is defensively very responsible. He takes away time and space very well, which will be very key in Sochi. Having the bigger ice is going to require guys that can do that.

I don't know if I agree with this. On the bigger ice, the US should be looking for guys who have elite speed and skill.

Quote:

And as for the age thing, look at tons of guys around the league. You're ridiculous. You don't even need to leave Chicago. Patrick Sharp has been getting better and better as he gets older, is having the best season of his life, and is 32. Wayne Gretzky still was putting up 130+ point seasons into his mid-30s. Jagr is still effective at 41, Selanne has clearly slowed down but was still great into his late 30s and early 40s.

To think that Brown is "past his prime" at 29 is hysterical.
Dude, you can't pick out three of the greatest forwards ever and Patrick Sharp to argue that the mid-20's aren't the prime ages for forwards. Why on earth would you compare a guy like Dustin Brown to those guys?

For every Patrick Sharp there are many more guys like Scott Gomez who flame out in their early 30's. The fact is that most forwards' scoring prime is ages 25 & 26. That much is inarguable.

Roose13 12-31-2013 05:00 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 15009616)
I don't know if I agree with this. On the bigger ice, the US should be looking for guys who have elite speed and skill.



Dude, you can't pick out three of the greatest forwards ever and Patrick Sharp to argue that the mid-20's aren't the prime ages for forwards. Why on earth would you compare a guy like Dustin Brown to those guys?

For every Patrick Sharp there are many more guys like Scott Gomez who flame out in their early 30's. The fact is that most forwards' scoring prime is ages 25 & 26. That much is inarguable.

Brown isn't a scoring forward, dude :confused

lockman21 12-31-2013 05:06 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 15009616)
I don't know if I agree with this. On the bigger ice, the US should be looking for guys who have elite speed and skill.



Dude, you can't pick out three of the greatest forwards ever and Patrick Sharp to argue that the mid-20's aren't the prime ages for forwards. Why on earth would you compare a guy like Dustin Brown to those guys?

For every Patrick Sharp there are many more guys like Scott Gomez who flame out in their early 30's. The fact is that most forwards' scoring prime is ages 25 & 26. That much is inarguable.

:lol I don't even know why I bother.

Anyway, they just announced Stevie Y, and it compelled me to rewatch one of my all time favorite non-Blackhawk playoff moments (even if it is Detroit):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRoNqiiY6Lg

lockman21 12-31-2013 05:09 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Also, congrats to Jimmy Howard on making team USA. How do you feel about that Tim?

fonzz41 12-31-2013 05:34 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 15009120)
I will agree with bonzo in that Hammer is the better player. He is just much more solid in the defensive zone. Almost never seems to make a mistake. Oduya is more dynamic with his quickness but tends to gamble a bit more and make a few more mistakes.

But even though folks look at Keith & Seabrook as the #1 D-pair, Oduya and Hjalmarsson is the pair that plays the most minutes against the toughest competition. Part of the reason the Hawks are so good is that those two can stifle opposing top lines and free up Keith & Seabrook to utilize their offensive skills a bit more.

:lol Again, I wasn't comparing the two, just making a statement about Oduya. I've watched both enough to make comparisons.
Me: "Oduya is a really stead--"
Hawks fans: "HAMMER!
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 15009390)
Saad should make it over Callahan, Pacioretty, and Oshie

Yes definitely to Pacioretty. Love the idea of a player like Saad playing for the Yanks. :thumbsup
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15009417)
.
I've heard that it's Miller's net. Which it should be.

Shocker leaving off Ryan and Yandle. USA is smoking crack leaving those two off.

Agree with all of this, obviously.

Basically, if USA goes with any other team than the one I suggested, they are screwed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 15009514)
I wouldn't say that Brown has not looked good but he isn't on top of his game. That has a lot to do with injuries, some of which weren't publicly known. I believe he will find his way back to getting more points. But yes, he is still playing LA Kings/Brown hockey (hard hitting, wear down the opponent).

I know he is frustrated as he just signed a big contract and wanted to come out having a better year. It'll come though.

I was wondering if perhaps he's had some nagging injuries that aren't being talked about. Just not his usual tenacious self out there.

Still, he 100% is the type of player you want on an Olympic roster. It's about balancing the roster with the right types of skill sets, and Brown brings a dynamic to the table that few other countries can match.

Roose13 12-31-2013 05:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15009713)

Still, he 100% is the type of player you want on an Olympic roster. It's about balancing the roster with the right types of skill sets, and Brown brings a dynamic to the table that few other countries can match.

The roster balance was why USA was so good four years ago and nearly beat the over-talented (best problem ever :lol) Canadian team.

fonzz41 12-31-2013 05:48 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 15009735)
The roster balance was why USA was so good four years ago and nearly beat the over-talented (best problem ever :lol) Canadian team.

You got it buddy. It's about finding the right guys to fill roles on the team. Likes been said before, it's not about looking at a stat sheet and pickin the top 20 guys.

TMoore4075 12-31-2013 06:00 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15009636)
:lol I don't even know why I bother.

Anyway, they just announced Stevie Y, and it compelled me to rewatch one of my all time favorite non-Blackhawk playoff moments (even if it is Detroit):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRoNqiiY6Lg

love it. Second game is much better so far than the first. Most of these guys are the not as old players. Loved seeing the Russian 5 photo-op and they started the game with the honorary Russian, Doug Brown, taking Vladdie's spot on D.
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15009642)
Also, congrats to Jimmy Howard on making team USA. How do you feel about that Tim?

Well he kinda backed his way in. Anderson having a bad year, Schneider has been good but as pointed out in one article hasn't been able to take the job in NJ. Bishop has been good but I think Howie's getting it because he's had more consistent success. Not a very good year so far this year, some of that to do with injuries but was fantastic last year and the couple years before that. Good for him but he'll be the 3rd guy so barring injury be surprised if he backs up one game.

fonzz41 12-31-2013 06:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15009812)
Well he kinda backed his way in. Anderson having a bad year, Schneider has been good but as pointed out in one article hasn't been able to take the job in NJ. Bishop has been good but I think Howie's getting it because he's had more consistent success. Not a very good year so far this year, some of that to do with injuries but was fantastic last year and the couple years before that. Good for him but he'll be the 3rd guy so barring injury be surprised if he backs up one game.

Nice analysis. Bishop is close (has the edge if youre comparing this years stats) but I think you're right as to why Howard got in over him.

dmbetc 12-31-2013 06:27 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
This is turning into quite the exciting alumni game.

TMoore4075 12-31-2013 06:39 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 15009933)
This is turning into quite the exciting alumni game.

Love the Yzerman, Dino and Shanny line. Would love to have the 96 versions of them on the ice together.

Roose13 12-31-2013 06:53 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Wait... Shanny is playing?!?! Please post a link of the roster aha

dmbetc 12-31-2013 06:55 PM

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http://redwings.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=81853

dmbetc 12-31-2013 06:55 PM

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Shanny scored, too.

Roose13 12-31-2013 06:57 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Oh fuck, that's right it would have been today. God dammit I missed it. I suck so much. Being busy has turned me around :lol:lol

TMoore4075 12-31-2013 07:07 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
I dunno if it was shown on NBC/CBC but on Fox Sports Detroit Stevie Y gave his stick to a girl sitting right over the dugout and she absolutely broke down crying. What a moment for her and nice move by the captain.

Also loved seeing Jiri Fischer out there again. With all the success the Wings have had over the last 20 years or so there are still two big what if's and that's Vladdie and Jiri. Both cut down in their prime.

Roose13 12-31-2013 07:30 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
So awesome that Mark Howe played and his pops was a coach. One of the greatest highlights of my writing career was meeting and chatting with both of them during intermission of a game last season. Both incredibly nice people. I'm in the middle of reading Mark's book which is just fantastic.

efraser77 12-31-2013 09:54 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Ugh, this game can be so frustrating. Sharks dominated the first but trail 1-0. Ducks goal was a fluke bounce off a weak point shot, we appeared to score on the PP as time ran out, but time had indeed run out.

salrx95 01-01-2014 10:29 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
back to back come from behind wins for Isles. Just finished watching the game this morning as I avoided the score all last night. Isles making the annual mid-season push back towards respectability??? Getting Nabby back has helped. Getting Vis back would really help, too.

Okposo has really come on strong and sure hope he makes team USA today. Will be disappointed if he does not.

berman1125 01-01-2014 11:06 AM

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So many touching moments yesterday at the alumni game...I cried like a baby! haha totally unexpected

Roose13 01-01-2014 12:39 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Game is on at 1pm, right? I'm off all day and not missing this :lol:lol

salrx95 01-01-2014 01:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 15010608)
Game is on at 1pm, right? I'm off all day and not missing this :lol:lol

yep, they are out for pregame skate now. I imagine they won't drop the puck til like 1:20.

Weather is nuts. Should be fun. Hope it is like this at Yankee Stadium next month, up until game starts. Awesome atmosphere.

Roose13 01-01-2014 02:01 PM

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Holy fuck this is so awesome

aeroshady 01-01-2014 02:05 PM

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Winter Classic looks great!!! Go Wings today!!

salrx95 01-01-2014 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aeroshady (Post 15010658)
Winter Classic looks great!!! Go Wings today!!

That we can agree on. Have hated the Leafs since our '02 nasty series vs. them. Only conflict is Bernier is my goalie in fantasy hockey. Hate when fantasy interrupts real life.

TMoore4075 01-01-2014 02:18 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
CBC's production quality is just so much better. Love that I can watch this.

salrx95 01-01-2014 02:23 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Detroit's uniforms are so cool. Simple yet so effectively good.

efraser77 01-01-2014 02:43 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Watching the NBC broadcast, it feels lie the center ice cameraman is having a hard time adjusting to the increased distance from the rink. It's very jerky, he doesn't seem to know how much the camera needs to move as he pans.

dmbetc 01-01-2014 02:48 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Love Detroit's sweaters.

Really fun game to watch, snow is really effecting the gameplay.

Roose13 01-01-2014 02:56 PM

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I love the numbers on Detroit's jerseys. They match the Winterclassic font

dmbetc 01-01-2014 03:03 PM

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Love the numbers too, didn't notice that they match the winter classic font. Nice!

Roose13 01-01-2014 03:04 PM

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I don't know if it was intentional but I think it fits the theme nicely

TMoore4075 01-01-2014 03:05 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
I had a lot of Xmas money and thought about getting one buy put it towards a new iPad mini instead. Get a lot more use out of it.

fonzz41 01-01-2014 03:28 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Oh man, Liles goes out for warm ups the gets traded before the game and doesn't get to play. How bad does that suck? :lol

bonzo48280 01-01-2014 03:57 PM

The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
When do they announce the team USA roster?

AlpineValley804 01-01-2014 04:02 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 15010819)
When do they announce the team USA roster?

After the game is over.

berman1125 01-01-2014 04:12 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15010778)
Oh man, Liles goes out for warm ups the gets traded before the game and doesn't get to play. How bad does that suck? :lol

that sucks so bad! hahah

bonzo48280 01-01-2014 04:19 PM

No they're announcing the roster at the end of this period

bonzo48280 01-01-2014 04:24 PM

Wait the women's team? Ugh

Roose13 01-01-2014 04:32 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Phil Kessel's sister looks a lot less awkward than he does.

Speilmen230 01-01-2014 05:02 PM

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I need to find myself a hockey girl. They like hockey and the majority of them were cute as hell.

Excited for the mens team announcement.



HAWKEY!!

fonzz41 01-01-2014 06:02 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Wow. Lots of surprises for that roster.

TMoore4075 01-01-2014 06:02 PM

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Another shootout loss. It sucks even more for a game like this.

Roose13 01-01-2014 06:07 PM

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No Bobby Ryan or Keith Yandle is kind of shocking.

bonzo48280 01-01-2014 06:09 PM

No bobby Ryan or Keith yandle? The hell

bradshaw06 01-01-2014 06:33 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Go team USA! Going to pick up a Martin Shirtsy very soon

salrx95 01-01-2014 06:52 PM

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though annoyed Okposo didn't make it, I am not surprised. He is not fleet of foot and the big ice I know was gonna be a knock vs. him. But he more points than Stepan and Callahan combined.

Was surprised to see GM Poile basically said he won't be a guy that is considered ever going forward.

http://islanderspointblank.com/islan...t-for-big-ice/

dmbetc 01-01-2014 06:53 PM

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Who is the coach?

bradshaw06 01-01-2014 07:04 PM

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Dan Byslma.

~Crashintome89~ 01-01-2014 07:23 PM

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no keith yandle boggles the mind.

bradshaw06 01-01-2014 07:24 PM

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"I think we have to know what we're taking with Bobby," says Burke, who had him in Anaheim when the Ducks won the Stanley Cup in 2007.

"He's a passive guy," Burke says. And over 82 games, yes, Saad and or Pacioretty might be more attractive than Ryan. But Ryan's a game-breaker.

"He is not intense. That word is not in his vocabulary," Burke says. "It's never going to be in his vocabulary. He can't spell intense."

TMoore4075 01-01-2014 07:24 PM

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No Scott Gomez surprised me. ;-)

bradshaw06 01-01-2014 07:29 PM

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http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/10...pics-was-named

how the team was picked, including why Yandle wasnt.


But Burke remains skeptical about Yandle's place on the team.

"I always assume a disaster's going to happen," he says.

What happens if Paul Martin goes down on the first shift of the first game?

"Who plays those minutes?" Burke asks.

"If Keith Yandle goes in our top four, I think everyone we play is excited," Burke says.

bonzo48280 01-01-2014 07:48 PM

Saad was the last player cut after Oshie and Wheeler. Saad should be on the team over both of them.

bonzo48280 01-01-2014 07:48 PM

Burke is an idiot

~Crashintome89~ 01-01-2014 07:58 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
I think Oshie and Wheeler are good choices. I haven't seen enough of Saad's defensive game to really know how he stacks up with the other guys, but the only way USA is going to win gold this year is if they shut down offensive teams like Canada and Russia.

Bron Yr Aur 01-01-2014 08:33 PM

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Leaving off Byfuglien is more egregious than Yandle IMO. Huge mistake to leave him off. Dynamic offensively and has massively improved his defensive game. He is Winnipeg's best defenseman and it's not even close.

bonzo48280 01-01-2014 08:39 PM

Byfuglien was barely considered towards the end.

bonzo48280 01-01-2014 08:46 PM

@twolinepass: since 2008-09, only 11 players in the NHL have scored 160 goals or more. you'll never guess who's on that list. (it's bobby ryan)

@twolinepass: bobby ryan has 18 goals this season. callahan and brown had 14 combined.

@twolinepass: since 09-10, only three defensemen have 200+ points. they are duncan keith (220 on an all-star team), erik karlsson (201), and KEITH YANDLE?

@twolinepass: but brooks orpik was a lock from the outset.

bonzo48280 01-01-2014 09:05 PM

Burke said if he could go back he would take jack Johnson over bobby Ryan. How is that guy employed?

Bron Yr Aur 01-01-2014 09:17 PM

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Burke is a fucking moron. Ugh, the fact that his opinion is given so much importance in this process is ludicrous, when you consider how guys like Lombardi & Bowman have had so much success recently. In the end, seems like Burke got his guys. What has he done lately, again? Oh that's right.

TMoore4075 01-01-2014 09:29 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Silver medal 4 years ago that's why. I don't like how he puts an NHL team together but he did well in 2010. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until they screw up.

Roose13 01-01-2014 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15011158)
Silver medal 4 years ago that's why. I don't like how he puts an NHL team together but he did well in 2010. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until they screw up.

This.

People criticized 2010 and they damn near beat Canada.

~Crashintome89~ 01-01-2014 10:13 PM

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People don't like Brian Burke because he's so outspoken, but he knows how to put a team together with bold moves.

bonzo48280 01-01-2014 10:21 PM

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you can grit your way to a win on NHL ice. There is too much space for that type of style on big ice.

lockman21 01-01-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 15011013)
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/10...pics-was-named

how the team was picked, including why Yandle wasnt.


But Burke remains skeptical about Yandle's place on the team.

"I always assume a disaster's going to happen," he says.

What happens if Paul Martin goes down on the first shift of the first game?

"Who plays those minutes?" Burke asks.

"If Keith Yandle goes in our top four, I think everyone we play is excited," Burke says.

Basically that article makes it clear Burke hates Yandle.

I think the Ryan omission makes sense. I know he's offensively really talented, but all the reasons why they left him off makes sense. Yandle, however, I think is a huge mistake to leave off. I don't understand that at all.

bonzo48280 01-01-2014 11:24 PM

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Bobby Ryan can potentially score 40 goals this year and he got left off Team USA. that's awesome.

fonzz41 01-01-2014 11:33 PM

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There are so many things I disagree with on the USA roster that I would love to complain about, but I realize I'm always the guy here that's saying teams need to be built with the "right" players and not necessarily the "best" ones, so I'm just going to bite my tongue for now. The builders of the team may be seeing something in some of these guys that I'm not, so who knows. But with all that said, I'm still a bit nervous, and may not be able to contain myself from tossing around a few "I told you!"'s if things don't go well once the games start.

Bron Yr Aur 01-01-2014 11:42 PM

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I mean you can argue Ryan/Saad over guys like Wheeler/Pacioretty but I don't really think there is a huge difference there so...I don't really think that stuff changes much. Is Bobby Ryan a guy who can be an effective 4th liner? If not, then he is superfluous. You can't bring him just to play on the PP. I mean the big issue we always were going to face is our weakness up the middle in comparison to, say, Canada. That isn't changing, so...whatever.

I think the discussion on d-men is much more important. By taking Orpik & Martin it seems like they are going the route of (unsurprisingly) Nashville in focusing on stifling the great teams rather than trying to match them with elite skill. Personally I would have loved to see Seth Jones or Yandle or Byfuglien get a shot. Those guys are dynamic in ways that you don't see often from defensemen. With guys like Faulk/Fowler/Shattenkirk/Orpik/Martin, you have a much smaller but "safer" group. I don't particularly care for that.

~Crashintome89~ 01-01-2014 11:48 PM

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Canada was stacked offensively in Vancouver, so was Russia--look what happened to both. Russia doesn't even medal, right? Of course Canada won the gold, but they were one goal from being knocked out.

USA played their cards right by building a team, not an all-star team. USA is gunning for gold, you betcha the guys they selected were personally selected with how they were going to match up with Canada.

fonzz41 01-01-2014 11:55 PM

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How they match up with canada is precisely why I'm worried about this team. But, like I said, I guess I'll wait and see. At this point, I can only hope they serve me up a healthy dose of crow

Bron Yr Aur 01-02-2014 12:00 AM

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LOL this team does not "match up" well with Canada. IMO as far as forwards go, Canada is the Blackhawks or Pens and the USA is Columbus or Nashville. And that might be a generous comparison for the US.

bradshaw06 01-02-2014 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15011351)
How they match up with canada is precisely why I'm worried about this team. But, like I said, I guess I'll wait and see. At this point, I can only hope they serve me up a healthy dose of crow

Changing the subject a bit, apparently the pens have been scouting the avs pretty hardcore the last few months, some feel a big deal could be brewing. Possibly Despres. pens need forwards, the avs need D-men, What do you think would be a good trade?

bonzo48280 01-02-2014 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 15011360)
LOL this team does not "match up" well with Canada. IMO as far as forwards go, Canada is the Blackhawks or Pens and the USA is Columbus or Nashville. And that might be a generous comparison for the US.

this is inaccurate.

bradshaw06 01-02-2014 12:37 AM

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Speaking of snubs
https://31.media.tumblr.com/5d38cf52...mwbgo1_500.jpg

Roose13 01-02-2014 12:44 AM

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About par for the course as far as Bruins fans go.


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