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i just don't get how hockey fails in a North/North East market.

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It's mostly the mediocrity both on the ice and off. What is it, four total playoff games played over the course of their existence? They're just not taken seriously. No one would expect them to win the Cup, but if management doesn't seem to take the team seriously, and if even some of the players don't seem to take the team seriously, how could anyone expect the fans to pay good money and take them seriously?

If I'm not mistaken, there was a good buzz in the community when they made the playoffs in '09 and when they've made some important moves, but to witness disappointment after disappointment is deflating for fans of any team.

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if Buffalo can make football still work, Ohio can make hockey work.

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I agree that they can, but do they even want to at this point?

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This is all true. People were really excited for the playoff games and then they got swept. There was good excitement after the Jeff Carter trade and then they started 0-8. The attendance at games isn't horrible actually, there is just literally no serious following of them in the community. It also doesn't help that they are in the Western Conference so half of their road games start at 9/10PM.

They won't be moving anytime soon, the city owns them so they will be fine financially. It's just a shame.

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It's debatable how well football is working in Buffalo :lol

It's not an economy issue here, it's a hockey interest/performance issue.

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Great point that I didn't initially consider. Who wants to stay up to watch them play a game in San Jose, Anaheim, or Dallas?

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Nobody does. It would be tough even if they were good.

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people are going to the games...

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Kind of, they had a few blacked out last year. I agree, it works much better than hockey in Columbus in terms of an interest level

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:lol:thumbsup Just bustin' your chops.

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Wow that is a pathetic call on Hartnell.

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lollercaps!!!! :lol

Had a 2-0 lead with 2;30 to go. Gave up one. Then another, FROM CENTER ICE. And lost in a shootout. lollers!

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Another dramatic win for the NYR in overtime, Mr. Clutch Broadway Brad Richards!

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Effing choke job. AH! :BANG

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:lol


Unrelated items:

1) The Hartnell goal > fight was great.

2) Hilarious how NHL Network is hyping up the BIG NEWS out of Detroit that we've all known for a while.

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Real lucky win for the Jets tonight...Caps totally blew it. Idiots.

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Scott Gomez scored a goal tonight for the first time since last February.

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per twitter:

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Well, stupid-as-fuck name/logo and horrible on-ice product for an extended period of time probably aren't helping things.

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It truly baffles me how much he has fallen off in terms of production in just one season.

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http://www.didgomezscore.com/ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Great Ranger win!

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lollercaps lollerbrohan!

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I love hockey and my teams is good and I don't like to stay up late for those games. The NHLPA blocking the realignment hurt a lot more than they think.

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Nice 5 point cushion we have on the East!

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I thought you were kittens. I was like "what the h?"

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Thought the same exact thing. :lol

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No doubt about it. In related news I went to the CBJ game last night against Dallas. Virtually ever seat was filled and by the end of the game every fan was on their feet rooting for a tie when they pulled the goalie. I was shocked. It was the loudest I've ever heard that arena since the playoff games against detroit in 09.

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Very cool to hear :thumbsup. We've talked about the negativity surrounding the team, but I am all for seeing hockey succeed in whatever market it's in. I would be just as happy as anyone to see NHL hockey work in Columbus and for the team to find some success.

Cool story about the fans, it's a perspective we wouldn't get without having you mention it. It really is a credit to the fans for sticking with the team even through the tough times.

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Shut up, Kittens.

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I am the female Kittens: I have long hair and I like pussy.

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Apparently horton has suffered another set back while recovering from his concussion. Awesome. :BANG

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Epic. :lol

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Sorry I need to sig for awesomeness

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New Bucci: http://proxy.espn.go.com/nhl/story/_...ans-super-bowl

As I started, I was like, "c'mon Bucci, why are you even trying to find common ground between the NFL and NHL?" Then I kept reading. :thumbsup

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No Hjalmarsson, no Montador for Hawks against Sharks. This is going to be a clusterfuck in our own end. Would be a huge win if they could pull together, though.

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Don't worry, we're right about in the middle of one of our slumps. We're a streak-slump team, no in between, and we've given up 9 goals the last two games.

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Ya know the Hawks have lost 6 in a row right? And we've also given up 8 or 9 in our last 2. I think 16 GA in the Hawks' last 3 games.

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Yeah, I know, so you guys are more due to break the slump than we are. And I guess the score will be 7-6 tonight... :lol

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Anyone watch Wings vs. Ducks tonight? The best regular season game I can remember seeing in a very long time. I'm a Wings fan though, so I'm admittedly biased, but both teams just played great the whole way through.

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how we came out of that scrum on the kill, I have no idea. If anything, that was a wash between Toews Thornton Clowe and OD. Joe Thornton is the biggest jagbag in the league.

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That was just about the worst 1st period imaginable. The PP is so bad.

Q has officially lost it, though. He plays Michael fucking Frolik on the 1st line with Hossa and Toews....why? Kid has done nothing all year. Meanwhile, Stalberg gets stuck on the 4th line. We spend nearly 6 minutes of that period on the PP and Stalberg doesn't see the ice once. Meanwhile, we have Brunette-Shaw-Kruger out there on the 2nd unit. It's just nonsense. You have 3 borderline NHL'ers on the 2nd PP unit together. Just let that sink in.

Not to mention the dreadful PK that just gives up goals instantly....2 let in by the PK and another that was disallowed (and was a very soft call).

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I get it. I think we got it in October. Enough already.

We don't need to get into details. There are a lot of things wrong right now

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Thought this was a discussion board. My bad.

Just wondering, you think Q should stay? I'm starting to become on the fence. Just no excuse for Stalberg > 4th line, Frolik > 1st line. Even after Frolik commits a 4-minute high-stick (same thing he did in Calgary) on his first fucking shift.

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Well, the same things have been said since October. I'm tired of having the same discussion.

There has been, no doubt, terrible player management for the Hawks this season, and especially lately. Where to begin?

Lepisto: There is no reason this guy should not have been getting more of an opportunity, unless this guy banged Q's daughter. He has done nothing horrible in all of his time, and the thought that John Scott and Dylan Olsen are getting opportunities before this guy says something. Why is he even on the team? Glad he's playing tonight.

Montador: This guy has not been nearly as bad as the majority of people would say, because he has been stuck with OD and John Scott all damn season. The 3rd worst PK in the league, and John Scott is getting PK time before Montador? What does it take for this guy to get a chance?

Frolik: Without question, he plays his best when with Bolland, and that line played very well at the beginning of the year. Why they have not gone back to this is questionable.

Bickell: Plays his best game of the year against Vancouver, looks to have started to turn the corner, get benched for 3 games. I just don't get it.

I can very well keep going. You pile that on top of Q's ease in switching lines on a period-by-period basis, but will make no adjustment on the PP or PK schemes, especially when Kitch's PK scheme of a triangle +1 system has given him bottom 5 PK his entire coaching career.

I don't get it.

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This sharks broadcast is terrible. Hahn and Remenda are garbage.

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Good period from the Hawks...can't be making mistakes at the opponent's blue-line like that. Tough to win games when you give up 3+ goals every single night.

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2 GA for us is the new 0.

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Hawks need this, turn this bastard around now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCRae5mRoRE

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Bickell scoring a goal and fighting??!?!? WTF is going on?

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Crawford good lord.

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Stalbergs turnover is worse than Leddy getting worked all the time. Got it?

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I can't decide what is worse, team D or goaltending.

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It is the same song on repeat for the Hawks. On a losing streak like this, with a team this good, the blame is now shifting to the coaches.

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uhh....team D. not even close.

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I'll say. Crawford has looked like a deer in headlights last 2 goals though.

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something needs to change

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Here's what I don't get. Yeah, it was a stupid play. He waited too long to make the pass to Keith, it get deflected bounced in the air, Keith couldn't keep it in >>> 2-on-1

But to bench him for the entirety of the 3rd is just plain stupid when he brings so much energy. Frolik fucking took a 4-min minor (his 2nd in 3 games) in the first minute of the hockey game but he still got more looks on the 1st line after that.

Stalberg fucked up. Ok, yeah, on the same shift that he kept the puck in because of his effort on the fore-check. Doesn't mean you just say fuck off to one of your 6 most skilled forwards for the 3rd period.

Crawford was terrible. Godawful side to side on the first goal....4th goal completely loses his net like usual.....5th goal he just doesn't move. He played horrible on a night when the team as a whole played a pretty strong game and really fucking worked for it.

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Hawks lose in Columbus next week and I believe Q gets the ax, hopefully with Mike Kitchen to follow. Worst run special teams in hockey.

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Kitch should go. I'm starting to come around to the Q leaving thing, but it's just because he doesn't have the balls to tell Kitch to get fucked. I would love Haviland as the Head Coach.

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Q's the head coach. If he doesn't like the system Kitchen is running than its his fault for not getting rid of it. Kitchen is Q's good buddy though from STL so that won't happen. It is time for a change team is a joke right now and it's not getting better anytime soon.

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So hawks bringing the terriblez?

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The bruins need to bounce back against the preds today. They've been struggling to score and Nashville is coming to town, so I'm not really sure that'll help matters.

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Something wrong with the Hawks?

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A win today puts some serious room between NYR and Philly with a tough schedule ahead for the rangers. Caps tomorrow, bruins tuesday.

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The Rangers will be fine - apparently it's "call inexplicable penalties against the Flyers" day down at the WFC. :freak

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These refs are terrible.

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It's all about the refs, huh? How about sestito grows up with the post-whistle bullshit that the flyers are SO good at??

Rangers have dominated the period either way.

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Talk about a jinx....

The game has definitely settled in. This period is taking forever.

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Great, intense game. 19 in a row bitches! Joey Mac looking good. See ya later Conks. lol

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The Flyers and Rangers don't like each other.

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First bold: Sestito is a punk
Second bold: give me a fucking break, you homer.

:lol what can I say? The flyers are always putting bodies to the puck, some of them late. I know every team does, but with philly, it's every play.

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Hey, they have not been this physical as of late but their last two games against the Rangers they decided to play with edge. They're tired of losing and being pushed around by the big bad Rangers. I like seeing this.

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Probably has a lot to do with the fact that its an intense division rivalry between 2 good teams.

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Omgggggggcg!

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Giroux is probably the only flyer I like. Such a good player.

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Omgcg!!!!!!!! <3

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Quit crying. It was a love tap. You fellas wanted to go.

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I'm certainly not crying. Just have a hard time taking a player like sestito seriously. THree fights last week in what, 7 minutes of ice time?

This power play is disgusting today. Amazing passing.

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Man, I wish I could watch this game!

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this page was :lol :lol :lol

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^what a guy. Nicely done.

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Fixed for accuracy. :)

Hoping they can pull off two more to get the all-time NHL record. :thumbsup

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Will be at Hawks-Yotes tonight, hoping they can finally pull a win.

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I don't take him seriously either. And apparently, I'm in the minority with this opinion to the Flyers fans. It caused a big debate the other day when I wrote a piece on it haha.

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I recall the debate. :lol. Rangers got really passive there in the second. Better get the next goal or we may blow this one.

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Aw thank you hon :hug but I'm not on my home computer, on my phone.

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This game is over.

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This team can not beat New York.

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Haha it was even better on Twitter.

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And Dubinsky is scum

EDIT: but far more useful than Sestito :lol

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Can't believe how badly these pretty boy fucks own us. Such an unlikeable team.

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Geno just set up Letang for a amazing goal. 3 assists so far.

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shut the hell up, Torts.

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Not many can this year ;)

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:lol pretty boy fucks haha

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And malkin with a breakaway goal, 4 points. team on his back