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And thirded! Or firsted (reprise). Non HD is fine too....

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Try this one, Kev. Not great quality, but at least it's something:

http://fullepisode.info/247-flyersra...lassic-part-4/

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Luongo not playing against Boston tomorrow :lol

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Supposedly the reason is cause it's Schneider's hometown. I half believe that.

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I don't buy that at all. I expected it though. No reason to ruin the guys confidence when he's been playing well. The crowd will let him hear it though.

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That's why I think it's half. Cool for Schneider and don't wanna fuck up Lou. But in saying that don't treat the guy with kid gloves. If he's a real competitor he should want to face that head on. What if it's Canucks/Bruins in the final again? Lou only plays at home?

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LOL :lol

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I really dont think Lou is a true competitor. If he was hed be begging to be in net tomorrow to help him forget about last year. And if Lou told Vignault he wanted to play vignault would play him. Instead I think he's actually very relieved hell be able to sit on the bench the whole game.

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And with the way the bruins have been playing there might be an outside chance that they Chase schneider from the game and Lou is forced to come in. That'd be hilarious. :lol

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Penguins giving us a run for our money early on. They will score first tonight.

Edit: :lol yup. Not even 30 seconds after this post lovejoy scores.

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the NHLPA shot down realignment. It won't happen next season. I'm mad and I sense trouble. This is not good in any sense.

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Realignment delayed

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=610343

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Winnipeg is still in the SE for next season.........

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Rangers are a lot of fun to watch right now. Lundqvist is stellar.

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:lol he is such a joke

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Seems like dickhead posturing by the union, and I'm usually pro-union on these things. So help me God, if there's another lengthy lockout...

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Puck hit a fan in the face at the end if NYR/PIT game. Don't see that often, hope she's okay.

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Most heartless effort of the year so far from the Hawks tonight. Team defense and goalie are major concerns going forward.

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Avs are 9-2 during this run. Tons of energy and a blast to watch. Severely lacking in consistency though. Watch they'll lose 5 straight after this. They could sure use a couple veteran presences in the locker room. But an awesome game tonight from everyone....

even if I'm the only one in the thread that feels that way;)

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Horrible game......

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And here I was getting almost excited for the realignment.

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Here's my recap of the AHL Outdoor Classic game: http://flyers.thecheckingline.com/bl...-game-phantoms

I'm working on a story about Michael Leighton that I should have up tomorrow. Got to ask him a few questions after the game.

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ONe reason..length of road trips. Ummm WC teams deal with this now so that's not a real reason. Another was disadvantage for playoffs. That one is valid for the two western divisions BUT I could argue it's not fair when a team like the Canes in 02 were the 8th team in points in the East had home ice advantage over teams all but 2 playoff teams.

This sucks for for Winnipeg and the SE the most. WTF? I love (actually hate) reading comments on facebook and articles saying it should just say as is. NO it shouldn't. If PHX goes to Quebec then that's an argument. But not it should not stay as is with a Central Timezone team from Canada being in the SE division. I hope the Jets do make the playoffs just to fuck with the PA while they bitch about travel.
I think the same thing. And I am worried.

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lollerpens

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I heard on NHL Network last night that one of the main reasons they denied the realignment was due to not having time to do the schedule for next seasons game. I haven't looked much into that claim, or even read anything on the realignment this morning, but that seems like a load of BS. I understand that it is a big pain in the ass to have to reschedule things, but seriously?

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I didn't hear that but if they said that it is total BS. Winnipeg got dates squared away in a month. The part I heard was they wanted to see how the road trips would work out in length and stuff. This is feels like the US Congress to me. Making up stupid reasons to block something just for positioning.

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Yup. It's all politics.

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The reason the deadline was yesterday was so that they could make the schedule

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even Schneider said he was surprised he is getting the start and the Vancouver coach said he is keeping the reasons Luongo not starting private.

Luongo is just a bitch clearly he went to the coach and said he wanted no part of this game or the coach came to him and told him that. Plus Scheider played much better against the Bruins in the finals last year.

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Flyers/Sens hockey at 1PM.

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He is a little bitch who is pretty overrated. He got a huge paycheck from the Cancuks after never even making the playoffs.

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And I'm kinda glad this realignment wasn't approved mainly because it would be weird seeing one of these five teams miss the playoffs: NYR, WAS, PIT, PHI, NJ

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So I got to ask Michael Leighton a few questions last night and I also manned up and asked him about his thoughts on returning to Philly. Leights is a very nice guy btw. Really great attitude despite playing in the AHL:

http://flyers.thecheckingline.com/bl...ds-classic-win

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And that would be fine if teams didn't have to switch conferences. But it really blows for the Jets who get yet another year of the SE division. I'm beyond interested to see what happens if PHX goes to Quebec. Do we have Winnipeg in the SE and Quebec in the Pacific? That would actually benefit Detroit, Chicago and Columbus. lol

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One for the ages in Boston this afternoon.

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even if Boston loses this game...what an embarrassment for Vancouver honestly how many fights are you going to back down from.

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Fucking brutal to call 5 minutes on Marchand for that. This Vancouver team is the biggest group of pussies I have ever seeen.

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Awful call. The Canucks are an embarassment to the game of hockey. Id be perfectly fine with the bruins losing thiw game 10-2 if they just come out in the 3rd and beat the piss out of those pussies.

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Vancouver is afraid to drop the gloves and this is your typical Sedin game. Pile up the points on the PP when no one can touch you.

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Danny B hat trick!

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Briere with a monster game!

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Clearly Boston is a bigger and tougher team, why would the canucks try to out-rough them? it didnt work in the finals...

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You should have asked him if he thinks he will ever play in the NHL again after he went AWOL on the Flyers after Game 6 against Buffalo last year...

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:lol :lol pens have the worst luck ive ever seen. Staal out 4-6 with a knee injury, Neal out weeks with a broken foot.

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Ouch thats rough.

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Well if you read the last quote in the story, he still wants a shot:

“Obviously I wanted to be here and it didn’t work out,” Leighton said. Any time you get to come back - and at the end there I was walking off and people were cheering for me. That’s a good feeling. Obviously I want to come back someday so hopefully things will work out.”

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Oh I'm sure he still wants a shot...

That's why I would have been interested to see what he would have said to the question

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That's a goal.

(First post in about 2 weeks in here)

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Worst times to have to take a dump - 2 minutes left in a tied Hawks/Wings game.

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horrible end

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Hawks need a few D men.

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Rumors flying around that Sharp may be out for a while. Hopefully thats not true

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What a let down for the flyers today. Giving up four unanswered goals in the final period is not something that Peter Laviolette is going to like very much. :lol

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What a hockey weekend, eh?

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I just want to say, thanks to 24/7, I have the song "Festival" stuck in my head now.

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Nothing like two games in a row where the Flyers forget to show up/forget there are 60 mins to a game.....

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Not NHL related, but hockey related, and very close to me at the moment. This might be a little bit of a read, not sure how much I want to type out yet, but I wanted to share this with hockey folk that I know:

This past week and a half (or so) I spent in upper Wisconsin and Minneapolis with my girlfriend and her family. Shortly after I got there (couple days) we learned of one of my girlfriend's brother's close friends being checked from behind, and potentially facing paralysis for the rest of this life from the hit. He was apparently checked from behind, went into the boards, and suffered multiple spinal injuries as a result. 16 year old Jack Jablonski.

Anyway, sparing all the details from the week, last night I went to a game between my girfriends brother's team (St. Louis Park in Minneapolis) and this kids former team (Benilde-St. Margaret). The place was absolutely packed for this HS hockey game. Estimated 4,500 people there. They had Jack's brother drop the ceremonial puck, and he was introduced as an honorary member of the Benilde team. Everyone was cheering, I'd be lying if I said I thought there was a dry eye in the entire place.

The support has been second to none. It was truly remarkable to see exactly how great the hockey community can be.

Anyway, figured I'd share. You can follow his story almost anywhere just by googling his name, but here are a good couple articles on it:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1187684.html

A follow up on him moving his arm with a video that's worth watching including moments from the game I was talking about (go to about 1:20 in the video to watch his brother skate out to the blue line with the starters of last nights game and listen to the roar he gets):

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/n...ms-jan-08-2012

There's a video of my girlfriend's dad interviewing Jack's mom somewhere on that myfoxtwincities website, but I can't seem to find it. Anyway, last but not least, here's the website his family set up for him:

http://www.jabby13.com

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Wow Chris, I read about this a few days ago--amazing how the internet can connect so many people together in an instant. As a fellow hockey fan, I hope Jack gets better soon, God knows he's probably wanting to get a speedy recovery to get back on the ice with his teammates.

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That's all he can talk about, I guess. Keeps asking when he can lace up the skates again.

I gave his mom a hug after the game while my girlfriend's mom was talking to her. You could tell that the support was incredibly overwhelming to her. I don't think she knew how to react, whether to cry or smile. She only has done one interview, and it was the one with my girlfriend's dad, which is why I really want to find it. I think she felt comfortable only talking to him, and knew he would ask the right questions the right way. It's the interview the news stations keep using bits and pieces of, but I want to find the whole thing.

My heart goes out to the kid that hit him. God knows what he's going through. I feel so bad for him, too. Jack has said the same thing many times, that his heart goes out to that kid and his family, and he holds nothing against him. It wasn't a malicious hit by any means.

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I liked it.
Good news for the Wings next weekend. That guy always burns them. Not saying it's good he's hurt, never want to see anyone get hurt. Well that's not totally true. Claude Lemieux could have broken his leg and I wouldn't have cared. Bad news for the Hawks though. Been struggling and to lose him is a blow.

Was weird to hear the guys on tv last night keep saying the Wings and Hawks were trailing the Blues.

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Datsyuk's game winner last night was redonk

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I couldn't imagine being the kid who paralyzes another athlete. Hockey is such a fast game and it's so unfortunate these things happen. As for the paralyzed player, there is nothing worse to hear than having the thing you love taken away and told you could never do it again, let alone the fact his life will forever be altered.

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So the vote by player reps for the realignment was 28-2. The two teams? Detroit and Columbus. Big shock. But Winnipeg voted for it? Really? The SE is better for you? Some of the stuff they are saying is find it fair for everyone and with the travel. Well Western teams shouldn't care really cause it'll be easier travel. The Pacific teams might have longer ones but that's it there. It levels the playing field in terms of who travels and who doesn't. And the playoff thing, yeah you are playing with 8 teams instead of 7 in some divisions but top 4 is top 4. They also say it's not CBA posturing? Yeah right. Paul Kelly, former head of the PA, laughed because the players wanted to have a home and home with every team following the lockout and the NHL said no cause the only was more games. Well now they get a home and home and the players don't want it? This is the best way to make it as level as possible. Unless they go to like 84 games again.

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Arniel fired in Cbus. That whole organization is a cluster f**k. It's too bad cause if they could get it together I think it could work there.

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Absolute shit show going on between Vancouver and Boston management since Saturday. I love it. And vignault has to be the biggest hypocrite in the league and I love that julien called him out on it.

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Another tough season to sit through :(

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Elaine Vigenault and the Canucks are a complete joke.

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I know we've been saying it for 3 years now but they have a bright future.

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Fuck, tell me about it! :lol I know it's cliche, but injuries have really hurt the cause again this year. I guess as long as we aren't drafting 1st overall thats a plus...right?....right? Playoffs seem like such a distant, unreachable dream right now.

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The only downside to all the high picks, if they all work out it'll be hard to keep them all. So I guess pray for what happened to the Hawks and win it quickly before the entry level deals are up.

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I used to think this too but I'm losing faith pretty quickly. Nobody likes hockey here, Ohio State has one of the best men's teams in the country and there is literally nobody talking about it. The team will stick around for a while because they are now tax-payer subsidized by the city but boy will it be brutal to watch

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It's just hard to tell when the team isn't good. I'd like to see them even like a Nashville team where they are in the playoffs almost every year.

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Just heard Sharp out 3-4 weeks on the radio.....not good

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Well we may never find out :lol

I just think that if there was any interest in hockey here there would be some excitement brewing for the college team.

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Since I think the Coyotes would end up in Quebec, Seattle may be calling for them. lol

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Agreed, but we should be able to keep most. I mean the Pens have Crosby, Malkin and Fleury under big deals. Chicago has Toews, Kane etc. We should be able to keep **most anyway. I already hate envisioning the team without any of Eberle, Hall or RNH

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RNH has been very impressive. If I had to keep one it might be him. But yeah they can make it work. It'll be the support cast which will be more work. Just if they want a stacked team they'd need to do it fast like the Hawks. They knew what they were doing in the summer of 09.

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5 games for marchand. :lol

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That was definitely clipping, albeit a very cool hit. By the suspensions Shanny's doled out lately, I'm surprised it wasn't less games. It's quite obvious Salo's apparent injury on the play was a big factor in this one.

This to me is where the line gets blurry... seems to me the question needs to be more widely considered, at what point does supplemental discipline need to be looked at by the league, and at what point do you let it be handled in game by the on-ice officials?

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When I saw the replay I agree its a dirty hit. However I don't think it deserves 5 games. Hits like that occur fairly often and I've never seen a suspension for them. Hell half of then dont even get called for penalties.

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Yeah I mean he got a pretty serious penalty in game so it's tough. I agree where do we draw the line. It's not like he didn't get a penalty in the game. Had that been the case I'd have no problem with the suspension.

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Take a look at this video. The inconsistency on hits of this nature are hilarious. One isn't penalized and the other is a 5 minute major, game misconduct, and a 5 game suspension.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10scJ...layer_embedded

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Leave it to Gillis and Vigneault to whine enough to the league so they coddle the Canucks. Never does that group of douchebags ever have to stand up for their diving, whining, and hair pulling. At least they have never won a cup and never will.

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Not at all, especially at a time when we are really, really struggling. The team has looked pretty bad lately. Defense back to being bad, goaltending back to being sub-par. Basically we're back to the mediocre team of last season because our depth is mostly injured. Kruger, Carcillo, Montador...underrated members of the team that I think we miss quite a bit. Losing Sharp makes us a 1-line team again, just like last year.

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The difference between the Mason Raymond hit and the Marchand hit is that Raymond made a play on the puck and ducked to avoid a check. Marchand deliberately avoided the puck and hit Salo low when he was in no danger of getting hit like Raymond was.

It's spot on, Marchand totally deserves to be suspended and Raymond did not. Marchand's suspension could be a tad long, but that's not that big of an issue to me.

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How was Marchand in no danger of getting hit?

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Getting hit in a dangerous way I should say. Just because Salo was going to check him if he would have made a proper play for the puck, doesn't mean Marchand can puss out and take out his knees and not even make a play for the puck.

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And for the record I'm not trying to turn this into a complete clusterfuck of an argument. I just don't see how one hit isn't penalized and the other is a 5 minute major, game misconduct and a 5 game suspension. Both guys ducked when they saw a hit coming. If one hit is a major penalty and suspension the other should be as well.

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The puck is at Marchand's feet. He ducked the hit and was going to have control of the puck. Both guys ducked on hits. I don't see how it's any different.

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One guy makes a play on a puck and commits a counter check, and the other makes no move for the puck and takes out someones knees. Just because they look the same doesn't mean they are the same situation.

Raymond is avoiding a check and the way (Marchand? Can't remember who got checked by Raymond) falls and the way Raymond ducks is just the way the play went. There is no reason for Marchand to make the check he did, especially as he is making no effort to go for the puck.

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Raymond was avoiding a check, and Marchand was initiating a check...

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The thing is clipping is described as a hit below the knees of an opposing player. It's a 5 minute penalty and a game misconduct. Would Raymond's hit be classified as that as well?

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I think that it doesn't apply if you are avoiding a check. Raymond was trying to avoid a check where Marchand was initiating a check. That's just what I think. Obviously they look like the exact same hit but the situations are completely different.

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I guess we just disagree. I don't think Marchand is initiating a check there. Salo's own momentum carried him over Marchand.

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here is the full video. Marchand make a play for the puck, in the exact same area, in the exact same way about 10 seconds before the hit, and Marchand just checks him. When I watched it the first time I was shocked to see Marchand not go down because the play is EXACTLY the same. Marchand just checks Salo and goes for the puck. 10 seconds later the exact same thing happens and instead of going for the puck, he avoids it and just takes out Salo. That's your penalty, and your suspension.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGD5DbljtfE

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nobody can hate the Canucks more than me, we all know that. that being said, Marchand's hit is bullshit.

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I think DMBcubs hates the Canucks more than you. :lol

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actually that is very possible :lol

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The hit was deserving of the penalty and a suspension. Maybe 5 games is a bit much, because to me, hits to the head are a bit worse than to the knees, and they have been getting 2 games quite often it seems.

Still, it looks like Marchand sees Salo coming so he lets the puck go so that Salo plays it and he can check him. And he does so in a very dangerous manner. Pretty shitty play, IMO.

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Marchand's hit was a cheap shot. He's a classless mother who is going to get it one day.