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unccrombie 02-04-2018 05:50 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aeroshady (Post 17005633)
North Korea and Trump have nothing on the nuclear button the Rangers are going to be pushing on this roster. Blow it up!

That hit in vesey gave me chills.

barbogast 02-04-2018 07:19 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
Congrats on the Super Bowl W, Phillie peeps!

dmbetc 02-05-2018 09:42 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
McDavid whooped the Lightning tonight. Nice to see a game like that for him.

aeroshady 02-06-2018 02:33 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
How have the Rangers not fired AV yet?

Roose13 02-06-2018 05:58 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
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Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 17006921)
Congrats on the Super Bowl W, Phillie peeps!

That’s how you attain the best record AND championship!

(Sorry barbs, not sorry Brohan)

mr.MikeD 02-06-2018 06:00 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
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Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 17008699)
McDavid whooped the Lightning tonight. Nice to see a game like that for him.

That was fun to watch. He also moved from something like 14th to tied for third in points. Not to do that 25 more times and make the playoffs...

TMoore4075 02-06-2018 06:01 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
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Originally Posted by mr.MikeD (Post 17008795)
That was fun to watch. He also moved from something like 14th to tied for third in points. Not to do that 25 more times and make the playoffs...

Sounds simple enough.

TheLastPig 02-06-2018 06:37 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
Gonna be an emotional evening tonight. Wish I was going.

fonzz41 02-06-2018 08:04 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
Brad Marchand is tired of the "dirty player" label.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2018/02/05/...?sf181375757=1

I think I know what might help the poor guy:
Click the "Show Spoiler" Button to reveal hidden text.

Chumlee67 02-06-2018 09:08 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 17009071)
Brad Marchand is tired of the "dirty player" label.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2018/02/05/...?sf181375757=1

I think I know what might help the poor guy:
Click the "Show Spoiler" Button to reveal hidden text.

He will never escape it, nor should he.

dmbetc 02-06-2018 11:00 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 17009071)
Brad Marchand is tired of the "dirty player" label.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2018/02/05/...?sf181375757=1

I think I know what might help the poor guy:
Click the "Show Spoiler" Button to reveal hidden text.

Oh boo hoo. Exactly, stop doing dirty things. yeah, he has improved his play, but when he still makes dirty plays it's going to be harder to shake that image.

Also, him seemingly enjoying the "goon" label (look at his All Star game antics) isn't helping.

Dramageek 02-06-2018 12:20 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 17009071)
Brad Marchand is tired of the "dirty player" label.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2018/02/05/...?sf181375757=1

I think I know what might help the poor guy:
Click the "Show Spoiler" Button to reveal hidden text.

Ask Boyd Tinsley to play you a tiny violin, Brad. I hear he’s not doing much these days.

Anyway, going to be an emotional night in the Paint Can tonight. Wish I could be there, as well. Should be a very entertaining game.

Lcsulla 02-06-2018 02:53 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
Agreed, if Marchand was not such an ass with a history of suspensions and fines he would not have that stigma. He has no one to blame but himself.

Lcsulla 02-06-2018 04:07 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
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Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 17008699)
McDavid whooped the Lightning tonight. Nice to see a game like that for him.

Yeah, that goal he scored beating the whole D and chipping it over Vasilevsky's shoulder from an impossible angle was just plain sick.

Lcsulla 02-06-2018 07:37 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
I also freely admit I have no clue what constitutes goaltender interference these days. If the goalie or a defender starts the contact that results in the goalie being unable to play his position that is not the fault of an offensive players IMO. A few minutes ago the Hawks scored, an official review about whether a kicking motion was instituted and the league ruled it a good goal then Calgary challenged on interference and got the goal overturned. Pathetic, especially coming shortly after that Bruins goal that did count when Allen was pushed out of his crease TWICE. This is just too confusing to keep up with night in and night out.

mr.MikeD 02-06-2018 07:51 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
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Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 17009962)
I also freely admit I have no clue what constitutes goaltender interference these days. If the goalie or a defender starts the contact that results in the goalie being unable to play his position that is not the fault of an offensive players IMO. A few minutes ago the Hawks scored, an official review about whether a kicking motion was instituted and the league ruled it a good goal then Calgary challenged on interference and got the goal overturned. Pathetic, especially coming shortly after that Bruins goal that did count when Allen was pushed out of his crease TWICE. This is just too confusing to keep up with night in and night out.

No one knows. Check out this out. Nearly 17,000 votes split 50/50
https://twitter.com/tsnbobmckenzie/s...73395734097920

Lcsulla 02-06-2018 08:34 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
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Originally Posted by mr.MikeD (Post 17009974)
No one knows. Check out this out. Nearly 17,000 votes split 50/50
https://twitter.com/tsnbobmckenzie/s...73395734097920

Yeah, it has gotten to the point of absurdity.

How on earth are both of these good goals?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9oMBQb0UOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjSMovo2ySE

Then in the Chicago game Johnny Hockey was awarded a good goal after a challenge despite the fact that his stick that tipped it in was clearly over the crossbar, even he looked down and shook his head after seeing the replay knowing it should not have counted but somehow the refs and toronto decided it was a good goal. Then calgary gets an empty net goal to make it 3-1 shortly before Kane netted one with 6+ seconds left. That rule needs to be changed - or at least the way it is interpreted. These days who the fuck knows what a good goal is unless it is COMPLETELY clear cut.

Lcsulla 02-06-2018 08:35 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
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Originally Posted by mr.MikeD (Post 17009974)
No one knows. Check out this out. Nearly 17,000 votes split 50/50
https://twitter.com/tsnbobmckenzie/s...73395734097920

No way that 'goal' should have been counted IMO.

mr.MikeD 02-06-2018 08:48 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
Haha, I voted counted... hence the 50/50... what a mess, just st kill the interference challenge.

Lcsulla 02-06-2018 09:17 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
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Originally Posted by mr.MikeD (Post 17010026)
Haha, I voted counted... hence the 50/50... what a mess, just st kill the interference challenge.

Agreed, call on the ice should stand. Get read of that silly challenge since even the refs don't have a clue as to what interference is 95% of the time!

~Crashintome89~ 02-07-2018 06:17 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
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Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 17010019)
No way that 'goal' should have been counted IMO.

Just from glancing at it, the goal shoudl count. The forward isn't in the crease. The goalie comes out and initiates contact with the forward. Forward only falls over goalie after being hit into goalie by defenseman. Incidential contact.

"Call on the ice stands, we have a GOOD GOAL!" --Wes MaCauley

Chumlee67 02-07-2018 06:31 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
On first glance, I voted no goal.

However, looking a it more closely, yes the offensive player is at the top of the crease, but the goalie comes out and initiates contact and the defensive player makes contact with the offensive player right as the puck is at their feet. I have a very hard time faulting the offensive player, who is focusing on the puck, for falling into the goalie as the puck is at their feet.

TheLastPig 02-07-2018 06:37 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
MAF tribute was amazing last night. Seeing him in tears on the ice during a stoppage in play had me all misty. Lots of people in the crowd were crying. Heavy stuff.

aeroshady 02-07-2018 06:53 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
I am actually starting to get excited about the Rangers fire sale that is coming in the next few weeks. It has been 14 years since the Rangers went through one. We came out of it with a lot of hope and a team that has made the playoffs every year except 2010 when a shootout loss to the Flyers kept them out.

All of that said, the Rangers actually only got Brandon Dubinsky and Marc Staal out of the fire sale in 2004. The rest were either busts or players that wound up playing elsewhere. So hopefully the Rangers can get a little more bang for their buck this go around.

The asking price for Nash is being reported as "A first-round pick, a top prospect, and another lesser player or prospect or pick." Not sure the Rangers would get all of that, but it is a good starting price. "The price for Grabner is expected to be more along the lines of a first-round pick. That's it."

It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.

TMoore4075 02-07-2018 07:03 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
With everyone being on a level playing field and so many teams still in the playoff race, the prices for assets are at all time lows. When you could just as easily make the playoffs as miss, teams don't want to give up that #1 pick because if you hit a slide and end up in the lottery you want your #1 pick. A few years ago Mike Green would bring you a for sure first rounder. He might not this year.

aeroshady 02-07-2018 07:10 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 17010269)
With everyone being on a level playing field and so many teams still in the playoff race, the prices for assets are at all time lows. When you could just as easily make the playoffs as miss, teams don't want to give up that #1 pick because if you hit a slide and end up in the lottery you want your #1 pick. A few years ago Mike Green would bring you a for sure first rounder. He might not this year.

All true, but for some reason the media believes the Rangers will get some big returns. All we can do is wait and see.

~Crashintome89~ 02-07-2018 10:45 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
wow, dustin brown retiring.

You okay, Sarah?

https://deadspin.com/a-tearful-dusti...-in-1822803881

dmbetc 02-07-2018 10:47 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 17010675)
wow, dustin brown retiring.

You okay, Sarah?

https://deadspin.com/a-tearful-dusti...-in-1822803881

Man, he's changed A LOT since the last time I saw him.

TMoore4075 02-07-2018 11:06 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
From 31 Thoughts:

2. Trade that might make sense only to me: something around Justin Faulk from Carolina to Detroit for Andreas Athanasiou.

No...fuck you.

Lcsulla 02-07-2018 12:19 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Golden Knights are alright)
 
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Originally Posted by mr.MikeD (Post 17010026)
Haha, I voted counted... hence the 50/50... what a mess, just st kill the interference challenge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 17010178)
Just from glancing at it, the goal shoudl count. The forward isn't in the crease. The goalie comes out and initiates contact with the forward. Forward only falls over goalie after being hit into goalie by defenseman. Incidential contact.

"Call on the ice stands, we have a GOOD GOAL!" --Wes MaCauley

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chumlee67 (Post 17010207)
On first glance, I voted no goal.

However, looking a it more closely, yes the offensive player is at the top of the crease, but the goalie comes out and initiates contact and the defensive player makes contact with the offensive player right as the puck is at their feet. I have a very hard time faulting the offensive player, who is focusing on the puck, for falling into the goalie as the puck is at their feet.

The more I look at this I agree with you all that it should count since it does not look like the FWD initiated the contact. I originally saw the no goal signal and to be honest those camera angles are lousy so I thought the call on the ice should stand. After looking at it a few more times that is definitely a good goal.

That is what annoys me so much about that rule, it is just so damn subjective that it can often seem absurd.


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