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Watchtower works well anywhere. I think it's just beaten to death in that E2 spot.

Would be super fun to have Stefan open a show with his usual bass solo and then the band slowly gets into place while he's soloing to open the show with it.

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I find AATW just as amazing as when I heard it for the first time on LS.

Oh, and page 500, Warehouse announcement announcing this album is imminent!

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I'm only on page 150. We have a long way to go.

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I want to hear the Shotgun they supposedly laid down with Cavallo during the Big Whiskey sessions.

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I’d love to hear idea of you and any 04 songs too.


Did lillywhite get a shot at shotgun, Idea of you and 04s for AFTW? I’d love to hear those too.

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The new Wilco album is really good.

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The fact that it was a late scratch for the bonus cd for -- i believe #27 -- is really, really heart breaking

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People are coming out they hated every Shotgun after its first appearance, they'd hate what was laid down now.

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No one has said they hated every Shotgun after the debut.

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There's this:

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That doesn’t remotely say “I hate every Shotgun after it’s debut”. Man the C is a mess these days.

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If the only one that makes sense to him is the debut, it stands to reason that he's not particularly fond of anything afterward.

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I continue to hold out hope we'll one day get a studio Sugar Will. Odds are relatively low, I'd guess (I have zero inside information).

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Absolutely agree, not even close, I do have a strong connection to SB for personal reasons but a couple years ago before that was the case I'd still take SB over Shotgun.

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Wait... why is Shotgun being compared to Space Between? That seems like an incredibly random comp.

I'd argue that Shotgun's comp is closer to American Baby Intro with the wailing and the heavy emotional aspect. Space Between has become a sweet tiny little song and would gladly take it at any show. Even better as an E1 solo song.

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Yeah, that is not close to saying they hate every other performance. Maybe they do, but that's a huge leap.

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Shotgun was on the setlist, but Space Between was played in its spot.

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Because Dave replaced Shotgun (written in the setlist) with Space Between at the show on Saturday...

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I don't think you read his post properly.

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Oops :lol

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Ahhhhh.

I'd be OK either way as both are +1 for me. I've seen Space Between twice and Shotgun once. Gun held to my head, I'd probably go Space Between as it is complete. If Shotgun were to ever get finished and have some lyrics dialed in, it might be a different discussion. Space Between has a real argument for a top 30 DMB tune for me.

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I’m not particularly fond of sirloin steak, there are much better steaks out there…doesn’t mean I hate it. Hate is a pretty strong word to imply.

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Space between is fantastic, I think it is the perfect E1 but like it anywhere. Shotgun is also great and would love to catch it if it pops up again this tour. I don't think its totally worthwhile to compare just because of this substitution. They opted out of shotgun and chose to play space between. Its not like Dave is going to be writing the next setlist and be like "oh here is that Space Between/Shotgun flex spot I've been putting in sets, better just stick with Space Between cause I did that last time"

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Call me crazy, but in the mid-late 2000s, wasn't The Space Between held in much lower regard by the fanbase?

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Why is this thread still open?

While we're on the topic, here are some cool / unique setlist scans & statistics from the almanac. I enjoy looking at the printed sets.

https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3055255&tid=38 The first known printed set.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3055010&tid=31 The second known printed set.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3054772&tid=22 The first known printed set in the format as we know it. Note the misspelled Rapunzel and "IBYU"
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.aspx?sid=13&tid=2 First time Big Eyed Fish is setlisted. Listed as "Fish Monkey"
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.aspx?sid=18&tid=2 The Space Between goes from being listed as "Space Between" to just "Space" for the first time. They would later list it as "Space Between" again during the tour and would alternate between the two. It eventually permanently became "Space Between", likely due to Spaceman existing.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.aspx?sid=31&tid=2 Sleep to Dream Her is not listed in all caps for reasons unknown. Note the lack of an encore indicator
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.aspx?sid=33&tid=2 If I Had It All is listed as "If I Had". It was originally listed with the full title and would later settle on "If I Had It".
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.aspx?sid=36&tid=2 Grey Street is listed as "Grey St." for the first time. It had previously been listed by the full title, and then "Grey".
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.aspx?sid=40&tid=2 The first NPR Fool listing.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3055772&tid=12 Three different options for the closer.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3055833&tid=58 Gravedigger is listed as "Gay Rigger (Norm)"
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3055921&tid=69 Loving Wings is put on the printed set for the first time, despite being played several times before this.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3055918&tid=69 Watchtower is listed as "All Along The", despite always being listed as "Watchtower" before
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3055980&tid=72 A reminder to keep Ants Marching short.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3055990&tid=72 A reminder to keep Two Step short.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3055995&tid=72 A planned #41 into Everyday.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056000&tid=72 A planned Fool to Think into Grace Is Gone.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056075&tid=80 The new 4 in '04 are setlisted.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056096&tid=80 The new 4 in '04 are setlisted by their actual names for the first time. Good Good Time is put on the printed set for the first time.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056101&tid=80 "Fonz' Jam In 7" (Dreaming Tree?) setlisted, Too Much Outro setlisted.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056103&tid=80 Anyone Seen the Bridge is setlisted.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056173&tid=83 Louisiana Bayou is setlisted for the first time, with the full title. Hunger for the Great Light is listed as "Great Light". It would later change to simply "Hunger"
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056175&tid=83 A setlist on a big piece of paper with some spacing in between the songs. What Would You Say is listed as "What" as opposed to the normal "What Would".
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056177&tid=83 A choice between Warehouse or "2Step".
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056214&tid=83 The very first printed #34, since they did not have this system the last time it was played.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056197&tid=83 The song debut of American Baby Intro is setlisted as "[Intro?]". It would go on like this for a time
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056232&tid=83 The song debut of Everybody Wake Up is setlisted as a choice. "Drive or Wake Up"
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056236&tid=83 There is nothing particularly special about this printed set, I just enjoy the way it looks. It's very compact and sublime looking.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056269&tid=87 #40 is put on the printed set for the very first time.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056292&tid=87 A small question mark is listed after Sister.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056302&tid=87 Louisiana Bayou, previously setlisted as "Louisiana", is changed to "Bayou". It would then alternate between the two before permanently becoming Bayou.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056473&tid=96 A reminder to keep Loving Wings short.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056485&tid=96 A question mark is setlisted. This later turned out to be Butterfly.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056514&tid=96 Two different setlists for the same night.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056492&tid=96 Lie in Our Graves reprise is setlisted.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056493&tid=96 Typical Situation is listed as [Typical] to indicate the partial version of the song they played in '07.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056581&tid=98 A choice in the encore is indicated between the songs rather than side by side.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056549&tid=98 Back to back Money setlisted with their respective artists next to them.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056552&tid=98 Back to back Money setlisted without their respective artists next to them.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056583&tid=98 Seek Up is handwritten to open the set, while Old Dirt Hill is printed as the opener.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056558&tid=98 Two different printed sets that are the same except for the opening encore song.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056565&tid=98 "Everyday -> Halloween" is setlisted.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...3056569&tid=98 The first printed set after LeRoi's passing. One Sweet World was planned for the encore, but was changed to Corn Bread.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...056616&tid=103 "Too Much Hits" is setlisted.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...056618&tid=103 Blue Water is setlisted, possibly for the first time at a DMB show.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...056681&tid=106 An option for a Tim Reynolds song is listed at a full band show.
https://dmbalmanac.com/TourSetScan.a...056631&tid=106 Lots of encore choices listed.

That's all I have time for right now, I'll probably post another for 2010-2022. I hope someone finds some entertainment in this post. I just find these little details interesting. If not, cool. Just adding to the conversation :leroi

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Yes it was. So was Too Much. People were sick of it.

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Too Much is my most seen song.

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I think the band could look to what they did with Time Bomb for Shotgun. The end of Time Bomb Dave kept the screaming "Baby when I get home..." section in a lower register and I think it still did the song justice but clearly easier on his voice and less screaming. Shotgun has a similar issue. In the Austin Shotgun (video below) skip to 2:30 and that is clearly where Dave doesn't know what to do to fill the vocals but scream. He just needs to write some lyrics... think I've heard some versions where he just repeats "talk to me, talk to me girl girl girl" or "run away from here, you and me my dear" whatever just repeat some lyrics in a lower register build towards maybe one big scream of the "YEAH YEAH YEAH" before the "What has become of us?" section which always sounds tight. You can tell its that chunk of the song Dave is uncomfortable with. Just write some lyrics, keep it lower register, and don't fill it with mindless screaming and the song is tight.

Austin Shotgun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLPDhrTR7QU

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Fascinating stuff! Thanks for sharing!

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BTW, if you look at the handwritten set lists (Jeff often posts them), Dave misspells Rapunzel in that exact way all the time. [emoji23]