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TMoore4075 06-20-2011 03:53 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12697091)
he already is the captain, or at least he was last year.

no just being a smart ass. If you were thinking he was going back to Chicago. I can't imagine Winnipeg not matching an offer unless it was stupid, which it won't be. He also sounded pretty excited go be playing there.

bonzo48280 06-20-2011 04:12 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12697101)
no just being a smart ass. If you were thinking he was going back to Chicago. I can't imagine Winnipeg not matching an offer unless it was stupid, which it won't be. He also sounded pretty excited go be playing there.

no I just want him back. It would be nice, I just reading about him. Of all the guys we lost last summer he was the only one that hurt, because I thought we would keep him.

dduncan6er 06-20-2011 04:13 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I hope Winnipeg hold on to Mark Stuart. He was very solid with the Bruins and he's a tough gritty veteran defenseman who could do a lot for guys like Byfuglien and Bogosian.

DmBand801 06-20-2011 04:58 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12696850)
Will Tampa pay to keep Stamkos if a team throws a crazy offer sheet at Stamkos?

Yes. The chemistry displayed between him and St. Louis is ridiculous.

~Crashintome89~ 06-20-2011 04:58 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
^^^^

Just for you: http://bustedcoverage.com/2011/06/20...oods-intro/#12

The caption is hilarious. :lol

fonzz41 06-20-2011 05:01 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12696850)
Will Tampa pay to keep Stamkos if a team throws a crazy offer sheet at Stamkos?

Absolutely.

dduncan6er 06-20-2011 06:11 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12697470)
^^^^

Just for you: http://bustedcoverage.com/2011/06/20...oods-intro/#12

The caption is hilarious. :lol

:lol the Bruins know how to party. Seems like Marchand, Seguin, and Rask are the big partiers on the team. Pretty funny because Seguin shouldn't even be drinking.

fonzz41 06-20-2011 07:52 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
A minor detail I hadn't really considered... what jersey will be given to Winnipeg's draft picks if the team name isn't chosen by the draft?

http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...aft-picks.html

White practice sweater with "Winnipeg" written in Sharpie gets my vote.

TMoore4075 06-20-2011 09:10 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12697972)
A minor detail I hadn't really considered... what jersey will be given to Winnipeg's draft picks if the team name isn't chosen by the draft?

http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...aft-picks.html

White practice sweater with "Winnipeg" written in Sharpie gets my vote.

So Matty assuming Phoenix stays put for 12-13, how do you feel about the Avs most likely move to the Pacific?

~Crashintome89~ 06-21-2011 10:33 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
The Flyers are trying to get into the top 10.

dduncan6er 06-21-2011 10:41 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12700008)
The Flyers are trying to get into the top 10.

9th pick for JVR. :evil:lol

dduncan6er 06-21-2011 10:47 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
In all seriousness though it's amazing the Bruins have a top 10 pick once again after winning the cup. A lot of mock drafts I've seen have them taking Murphy, who is supposed to be a pretty good PMD. I'd definitely like us to take a D-Man because it seems all of our top prospects are forwards.

fonzz41 06-21-2011 10:59 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12698193)
So Matty assuming Phoenix stays put for 12-13, how do you feel about the Avs most likely move to the Pacific?

I'm looking forward to it actually and hope it happens. The competition figures to be quite a bit more intense, but the Avs will be much better next year, I can guarantee that. Their youth should match up well with the youth of teams like LA, Anaheim, etc., and make for some fun games. Sorry to swordo and MikeD, but it's just hard for me to get too excited about the Avs playing the Oilers or the Wild right now :shrug. The travel schedule should also benefit the Avs.

TMoore4075 06-21-2011 11:16 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12700084)
I'm looking forward to it actually and hope it happens. The competition figures to be quite a bit more intense, but the Avs will be much better next year, I can guarantee that. Their youth should match up well with the youth of teams like LA, Anaheim, etc., and make for some fun games. Sorry to swordo and MikeD, but it's just hard for me to get too excited about the Avs playing the Oilers or the Wild right now :shrug. The travel schedule should also benefit the Avs.

Yeah I'm with ya. Oilers while up and coming aren't there yet and the Wild have always been boring to watch.

Now of course after I asked that last night this news came out:

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/n...-glendale.html

This could be huge and hurt the Coyotes and scare away and potential buyers. If Quebec's new arena is on it's way to being built then the Coyotes could move there but Avs would still move to the Pacific and just take their spot. The teams that would lose out would be whatever Central team that would have moved and Dallas who probably would have headed to the Central and got out of the Pacific.

TMoore4075 06-21-2011 11:36 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
From someone I follow on twitter: "Love what Flyers doing w/ Bryzgalov. Anytime u can sign 31-year old goalie to 5yr deal who's lost 8 of past 11 p-off games, u HAVE to do it."

I found that funny. And if you take away the first 3 games of 2010 when the Yotes were up 2-1 then he's lost 7 of his last 8.

fonzz41 06-21-2011 12:23 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Jagr's return imminent?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6686396

While it would be cool to see him in the winged wheel, it would be even more cool IMO to see him back in a Pens sweater.

TMoore4075 06-21-2011 12:34 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12700412)
Jagr's return imminent?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6686396

While it would be cool to see him in the winged wheel, it would be even more cool IMO to see him back in a Pens sweater.

He's gonna need to come cheap for both of them. Around $1mil would be my guess.

fonzz41 06-21-2011 12:47 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12700472)
He's gonna need to come cheap for both of them. Around $1mil would be my guess.

Agreed. Even if they weren't restricted by their current payroll, I'd be hesitant to throw too much money at a 39 year-old, I don't care who he is.

kev87lads 06-21-2011 12:52 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12700543)
Agreed. Even if they weren't restricted by their current payroll, I'd be hesitant to throw too much money at a 39 year-old, I don't care who he is.

Nick Lidstrom would beg to differ... :)

fonzz41 06-21-2011 12:53 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 12700559)
Nick Lidstrom would beg to differ... :)

I was surprised at the money he got, but yes, good point Kev.

Adding to my apprehension if I were looking at signing Jagr would be the fact that he's been out of the NHL for a few years. The KHL is getting more and more competitive, but is definitely not the NHL.

TMoore4075 06-21-2011 01:13 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12700571)
I was surprised at the money he got, but yes, good point Kev.

Adding to my apprehension if I were looking at signing Jagr would be the fact that he's been out of the NHL for a few years. The KHL is getting more and more competitive, but is definitely not the NHL.

Lidstrom = Norris Trophy finalist. Jagr = two years away from the NHL which is a much more physical league from what I understand.

swordo84 06-21-2011 01:19 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Smyth wants to go back to the Oil to finish his career. This makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Captain Canada has always been my favourite.

kev87lads 06-21-2011 01:31 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
^ HE spelled "favorite" with a "U"!!!!!! AWESOME. :lol I kid I kid.

TMoore4075 06-21-2011 01:45 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 12700785)
^ HE spelled "favorite" with a "U"!!!!!! AWESOME. :lol I kid I kid.

I always liked the way Lidstrom played defence. And my favourite player ever is centre Steve Yzerman.

swordo84 06-21-2011 01:50 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12700829)
I always liked the way Lidstrom played defence. And my favourite player ever is centre Steve Yzerman.

:thumbsup eh?

TMoore4075 06-21-2011 01:52 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 12700853)
:thumbsup eh?

Damn I knew I forgot to put something in there. :lol

DmBand801 06-21-2011 02:02 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12700412)
Jagr's return imminent?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6686396

While it would be cool to see him in the winged wheel, it would be even more cool IMO to see him back in a Pens sweater.

I wonder who the third team is that can't be named.

That screams out "Devils" right there, if you ask me. :evil

swordo84 06-21-2011 02:05 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12700870)
Damn I knew I forgot to put something in there. :lol

That's how we tell real Canadians from impostors. haha

fonzz41 06-21-2011 02:14 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12700685)
Lidstrom = Norris Trophy finalist. Jagr = two years away from the NHL which is a much more physical league from what I understand.

We have a family friend who played for our local AHL team who, as he was getting into his later 30s, was thinking of retiring. Long story short, he went over and played for some European clubs, including a stint in the KHL, and was able to extend his career into his 40s. He said it's much less physically demanding than the north american game, and the shorter seasons help as well.

~Crashintome89~ 06-21-2011 02:16 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12700829)
And my favourite player ever is centre Steve Yzerman.

You don't say?

fonzz41 06-21-2011 02:18 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 12700942)
That's how we tell real Canadians from impostors. haha

Swordo, you'd be so proud of me... I work for a Canadian company and, after talking to my co-workers up there for so long every day, I now say things like PROcess (instead of "prawcess"), my wife makes fun of me every time I say "eh", and the other day I wrote "colour" in an e-mail and didn't notice it until someone brought it up!

dmbmuskie 06-21-2011 02:19 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Jagr interests me, but I'm just not sure it's a good fit.

lockman21 06-21-2011 02:31 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Top 6 NHL jersey sales for the 10-11 season: 1. Crosby, 2. Ovechkin, 3. Toews, 4. Kane, 5. Malkin, 6. Richards

bradshaw06 06-21-2011 02:38 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12700992)
Jagr interests me, but I'm just not sure it's a good fit.

I think he'd be a great fit

neal-malkin- jagr. sounds amazing.

swordo84 06-21-2011 02:47 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12700990)
Swordo, you'd be so proud of me... I work for a Canadian company and, after talking to my co-workers up there for so long every day, I now say things like PROcess (instead of "prawcess"), my wife makes fun of me every time I say "eh", and the other day I wrote "colour" in an e-mail and didn't notice it until someone brought it up!

Very proud indeed, eh?

fonzz41 06-21-2011 02:53 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 12701055)
I think he'd be a great fit

neal-malkin- jagr. sounds amazing.

I was thinking the same thing... Malkin and him could theoretically be a pretty good fit as they play a very similar style.

If Crosby ever makes it back, that could be something special as well. Just think what Syd did with an over-the-hill Bill effin' Guerin...

~Crashintome89~ 06-21-2011 03:01 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12701027)
Top 6 NHL jersey sales for the 10-11 season: 1. Crosby, 2. Ovechkin, 3. Toews, 4. Kane, 5. Malkin, 6. Richards

I'm assuming Mike and not Brad, right?

TMoore4075 06-21-2011 03:01 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12701118)
I was thinking the same thing... Malkin and him could theoretically be a pretty good fit as they play a very similar style.

If Crosby ever makes it back, that could be something special as well. Just think what Syd did with an over-the-hill Bill effin' Guerin...

You mean lazy?

dmbmuskie 06-21-2011 03:28 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 12701055)
I think he'd be a great fit

neal-malkin- jagr. sounds amazing.

I think it would depend on what Malkin showed up, but basically anyone you plug in there would be in that category.

I'd rather have someone who is a goal scorer rather than a facilitator.

fonzz41 06-21-2011 03:32 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12701156)
You mean lazy?

And brilliant when they decide to be.

That's a big "when"

dmbmuskie 06-21-2011 03:34 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Seems like the jersey numbers would be skewed by the Winter Classic.

fonzz41 06-21-2011 03:41 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12701027)
Top 6 NHL jersey sales for the 10-11 season: 1. Crosby, 2. Ovechkin, 3. Toews, 4. Kane, 5. Malkin, 6. Richards

Any idea where in the rankings my Adam Foote jersey shirt came in?

;)

lockman21 06-21-2011 04:24 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12701155)
I'm assuming Mike and not Brad, right?

:lol Yes.

Here's the top 20:

Quote:

1)
Penguins C Sidney Crosby
2)
Capitals LW Alex Ovechkin
3)
Blackhawks C Jonathan Toews
4)
Blackhawks RW Patrick Kane
5)
Penguins C Evgeni Malkin
6)
Flyers C Mike Richards
7)
Capitals C Nicklas Backstrom
8)
Flyers RW Claude Giroux
9)
Sabres G Ryan Miller
10)
Penguins G Marc-Andre Fleury
11)
Red Wings C Pavel Datsyuk
12)
Red Wings LW Henrik Zetterberg
13)
Rangers G Henrik Lundqvist
14)
Bruins LW Milan Lucic
15)
Rangers RW Ryan Callahan
16)
Blackhawks RW Marian Hossa
17)
Penguins D Kris Letang
18)
Devils G Martin Brodeur
19)
Blackhawks LW Patrick Sharp
20)
Sharks C Joe Thornton
Your welcome, Sharp and Toews, for helping you get on this list this year. Needed to round out the collection of current jerseys/players (including my fake green Patrick Kane :lol )

My list of Hawks current players sweaters now (just incase anyone was wondering):

1) Red Sharp - A
2) White Toews - C
3) Alternate Kane
4) Green Kane (fake) :lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12701313)
Any idea where in the rankings my Adam Foote jersey shirt came in?

;)

:lol :lol

Total sales of Adam Foote jersey shirt : 1

TMoore4075 06-21-2011 04:26 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12701313)
Any idea where in the rankings my Adam Foote jersey shirt came in?

;)

They stopped making it after 2002.

fonzz41 06-21-2011 04:36 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12701493)
:lol :lol

Total sales of Adam Foote jersey shirt : 1

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12701505)
They stopped making it after 2002.

:lol:lol So that's why it was so cheap... and why I got a hand-written letter from Adam thanking me for my purchase!

bonzo48280 06-21-2011 04:41 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
full list:

1)
Penguins C Sidney Crosby
2)
Capitals LW Alex Ovechkin
3)
Blackhawks C Jonathan Toews
4)
Blackhawks RW Patrick Kane
5)
Penguins C Evgeni Malkin
6)
Flyers C Mike Richards
7)
Capitals C Nicklas Backstrom
8)
Flyers RW Claude Giroux
9)
Sabres G Ryan Miller
10)
Penguins G Marc-Andre Fleury
11)
Red Wings C Pavel Datsyuk
12)
Red Wings LW Henrik Zetterberg
13)
Rangers G Henrik Lundqvist
14)
Bruins LW Milan Lucic
15)
Rangers RW Ryan Callahan
16)
Blackhawks RW Marian Hossa
17)
Penguins D Kris Letang
18)
Devils G Martin Brodeur
19)
Blackhawks LW Patrick Sharp
20)
Sharks C Joe Thornton

bonzo48280 06-21-2011 04:41 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Pittsburgh and Chicago are the only teams with 4 players in the top 20

dmbetc 06-21-2011 07:38 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-wp7657

TMoore4075 06-22-2011 10:20 AM

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So all of you who said Bryz wouldn't get a raise seem to have been wrong. I knew he would I just didn't think it really would have been the Flyers. But I guess after playing 20 goalies they felt the need. The rumored deal is 7 years at about $7mil per. I know the Flyers are a better team in terms of talent than the Coyotes but... I dunno.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 10:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12703535)
So all of you who said Bryz wouldn't get a raise seem to have been wrong. I knew he would I just didn't think it really would have been the Flyers. But I guess after playing 20 goalies they felt the need. The rumored deal is 7 years at about $7mil per. I know the Flyers are a better team in terms of talent than the Coyotes but... I dunno.

That is an awful deal for the Flyers.

~Crashintome89~ 06-22-2011 10:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12703535)
So all of you who said Bryz wouldn't get a raise seem to have been wrong. I knew he would I just didn't think it really would have been the Flyers. But I guess after playing 20 goalies they felt the need. The rumored deal is 7 years at about $7mil per. I know the Flyers are a better team in terms of talent than the Coyotes but... I dunno.

That isn't the deal, Tim. He was looking for 7/50$ in Phoenix, or on the market. I can assure you that he's not getting 7 mil as a cap hit.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 10:26 AM

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Personally, I don't see why the Flyers wouldn't try giving Bobrovsky one more year as the starter. He was pretty solid in his rookie year. Signing Bryzgalov to a long term deal makes Bobrovsky pretty much useless. And if Bob didn't have a good year they could go after a goalie at the deadline or try to sign someone else during the off season.

TMoore4075 06-22-2011 10:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12703544)
That isn't the deal, Tim.

According to Kypreos and Friedman it is. At least the average per year. They both heard $7mil. Kypreos was the who said the years.

~Crashintome89~ 06-22-2011 10:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12703549)
According to Kypreos and Friedman it is. At least the average per year. They both heard $7mil. Kypreos was the who said the years.

If it's not Dreger or McKenzie, I'm not sold. The Flyers have been tight lipped about the whole thing too.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 10:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12703557)
If it's not Dreger or McKenzie, I'm not sold. The Flyers have been tight lipped about the whole thing too.

What's your opinion on the Flyers signing him and what kind of contract do you think he's worth?

TMoore4075 06-22-2011 10:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12703559)
What's your opinion on the Flyers signing him and what kind of contract do you think he's worth?

I'll give my opinion. I think he's worth about what he was making. Around $5mil or so. People can throw him under the bus for the playoffs all they want, he was still their MVP during the regular season. That team didn't have a whole lot of talent. And I think the whole talk of them moving got into everyone's head. Is he worth $7mil? Hell no. Definitely not at 7 years if that were to be true. But do the Flyers do it to get a true #1? They might. It's their biggest problem. I don't think anyone can argue that one.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 10:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12703576)
I'll give my opinion. I think he's worth about what he was making. Around $5mil or so. People can throw him under the bus for the playoffs all they want, he was still their MVP during the regular season. That team didn't have a whole lot of talent. And I think the whole talk of them moving got into everyone's head. Is he worth $7mil? Hell no. Definitely not at 7 years if that were to be true. But do the Flyers do it to get a true #1? They might. It's their biggest problem. I don't think anyone can argue that one.

I agree they need a #1. But they'll have to shed some salary to sign him and they'll lose a lot of their depth. I just have a hard time understanding making a major move like this when Bobrovsky was pretty good for a large majority of the year last year.

TMoore4075 06-22-2011 10:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12703583)
I agree they need a #1. But they'll have to shed some salary to sign him and they'll lose a lot of their depth. I just have a hard time understanding making a major move like this when Bobrovsky was pretty good for a large majority of the year last year.

I agree and a smart person would say the same thing. But most GM's are thinking now they aren't thinking future. Honestly I'm not sure how they would even fit him in at $5mil without shedding salary.

~Crashintome89~ 06-22-2011 11:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12703559)
What's your opinion on the Flyers signing him and what kind of contract do you think he's worth?

Ed Snider came down and said I want Bryzgalov. Literally. When the owner of the team says that he's sick and tired of seeing a guy like Tim Thomas come in and win the Stanley Cup and always constantly hearing the goaltender carsouel in Philly--it's time for a move.

Bryz is worth at the most 6 or so mil. Definitely not 7, IMO. The Flyers are making every and all effort to sign him, and it's pretty much a done deal from what I've heard.

One thing I will disagree about is the reasoning that the Flyers are going to lose a lot of depth. If they move a guy like Carter, yeah they're losing quite a few goals, but they're still at least a two scoring line team.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 11:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12703694)
Ed Snider came down and said I want Bryzgalov. Literally. When the owner of the team says that he's sick and tired of seeing a guy like Tim Thomas come in and win the Stanley Cup and always constantly hearing the goaltender carsouel in Philly--it's time for a move.

Bryz is worth at the most 6 or so mil. Definitely not 7, IMO. The Flyers are making every and all effort to sign him, and it's pretty much a done deal from what I've heard.

One thing I will disagree about is the reasoning that the Flyers are going to lose a lot of depth. If they move a guy like Carter, yeah they're losing quite a few goals, but they're still at least a two scoring line team.

I agree that they still have 2 scoring lines, but this past year they had 3 pretty solid scoring lines. Losing guys lik Carter and Leino is going to hurt.

swordo84 06-22-2011 12:13 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Looks like Stamkos is staying put;
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=369660

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 12:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 12703921)
Looks like Stamkos is staying put;
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=369660

Tampa is lucky they're signing him before a team has the chance to throw a ridiculous offer sheet at him and force them to match it.

TMoore4075 06-22-2011 12:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 12703921)
Looks like Stamkos is staying put;
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=369660

Amazing what a solid owner and a good GM will do. Just look across the state to see the other side of things.

JRS1386 06-22-2011 01:19 PM

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Bryz is not worth 7 mil but I am excited to have him in orange and black. I hope they move Carter for picks

kev87lads 06-22-2011 01:44 PM

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Bryz is definitely worth 5 or 6 (tops) but not the 7. But as Matt said: Ed Snider says get a goalie and he's not messing around this time. You better get a top 250 goalie.

~Crashintome89~ 06-22-2011 01:47 PM

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I'm going to punch whoever this "source" is that everyone keeps using for the 7/50$ figure.

TMoore4075 06-22-2011 01:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 12704290)
Bryz is definitely worth 5 or 6 (tops) but not the 7. But as Matt said: Ed Snider says get a goalie and he's not messing around this time. You better get a top 250 goalie.

LOL

In seriousness though, yeah your owners says it, it's gonna happen.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12704302)
I'm going to punch whoever this "source" is that everyone keeps using for the 7/50$ figure.

If the source is right will you then want to punch the Flyers GM? :lol

joepsu0985 06-22-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 12704191)
Bryz is not worth 7 mil but I am excited to have him in orange and black. I hope they move Carter for picks

If they pay him 7 per, Carter wont be the only one on his way out. The one thing that will be interesting is how he fits in with the Flyers system. Phoenix kind of insulated him at times with a more defensive system.

dmbmuskie 06-22-2011 02:08 PM

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@RobRossi_Trib

Heard from someone just now Jagr really wants #Pens to come through, that Pittsburgh is where he wants to be. #tribpens #jagrwatch

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 02:14 PM

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I just saw some more tweets about Bryzgalov getting 7 years/$50 mil.
Here's an article from a Philly media outlet on it. http://www.csnphilly.com/06/22/11/Re...medium=twitter

dmbmuskie 06-22-2011 02:19 PM

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I know the cap has gone through the roof, but the Flyers seem to have a roster full of guys making way too much money.

~Crashintome89~ 06-22-2011 02:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12704423)
I know the cap has gone through the roof, but the Flyers seem to have a roster full of guys making way too much money.

Thanks, Caption Obvious. :lol

bradshaw06 06-22-2011 02:21 PM

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they're going from one extreme to the other. straight up lost their minds

dmbmuskie 06-22-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12704431)
Thanks, Caption Obvious. :lol

Your cap number seems like it should be 100 million.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 12704438)
they're going from one extreme to the other. straight up lost their minds

It seems like the owner is overreacting and putting too much pressure on the GM.

~Crashintome89~ 06-22-2011 02:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12704468)
It seems like the owner is overreacting and putting too much pressure on the GM.

Ed Snider doesn't overreact. He wants to win.

dmbmuskie 06-22-2011 02:28 PM

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The quickest way to stop your team from winning is to abandon the plan your GM has in place.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 02:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12704478)
Ed Snider doesn't overreact. He wants to win.

Stepping out of the owner's box and telling your GM to get a goalie and then overpaying him isn't overreacting?

kev87lads 06-22-2011 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12704484)
Stepping out of the owner's box and telling your GM to get a goalie and then overpaying him isn't overreacting?

Not when every Flyer's GM (that's been 2 -3 guys) in the last 15-18 years has failed to get "that guy" in goal.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 12704630)
Not when every Flyer's GM (that's been 2 -3 guys) in the last 15-18 years has failed to get "that guy" in goal.

But does Bryzgalov really deserve 7 million a year at the expense of letting guys walk like Carter and Leino? Especially when Bobrovsky played pretty well last year as a rookie.
If this deal is signed I believe Bryzgalov would have a bigger cap hit than any goalie in the NHL.

dmbmuskie 06-22-2011 02:58 PM

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I know Thomas played great, but he was out of a job last year.

Who is the last marquee goalie to win a title? It just seems like they league has changed and goalies matter less than ever.

~Crashintome89~ 06-22-2011 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12704662)
But does Bryzgalov really deserve 7 million a year at the expense of letting guys walk like Carter and Leino? Especially when Bobrovsky played pretty well last year as a rookie.
If this deal is signed I believe Bryzgalov would have a bigger cap hit than any goalie in the NHL.

First of all, it's not a 7 mil deal. Let's just get that out right now.

Is Bryz worth a big contract? Yes. Even at the expense of Carter and Leino.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12704683)
I know Thomas played great, but he was out of a job last year.

Who is the last marquee goalie to win a title? It just seems like they league has changed and goalies matter less than ever.

:confused I'd still say Thomas is a marquee goalie. 2 vezinas in 3 years is pretty impressive.

~Crashintome89~ 06-22-2011 03:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12704683)
I know Thomas played great, but he was out of a job last year.

Who is the last marquee goalie to win a title? It just seems like they league has changed and goalies matter less than ever.

Marc-Andre Fleury.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 03:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12704710)
First of all, it's not a 7 mil deal. Let's just get that out right now.

Is Bryz worth a big contract? Yes. Even at the expense of Carter and Leino.

Where are you hearing this from? Multiple media outlets are reporting it is.

dmbmuskie 06-22-2011 03:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12704712)
:confused I'd still say Thomas is a marquee goalie. 2 vezinas in 3 years is pretty impressive.

I agree, but he was not the "star" goalie in the series.

He kicked ass though.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12704740)
I agree, but he was not the star goalie in the series.

He kicked ass though.

I dont get what you're saying here. You think Luongo is more of a star than Thomas?

UCFish 06-22-2011 03:07 PM

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Luongo will never win a cup

lockman21 06-22-2011 03:08 PM

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lololololololol Flyers.

We'll take Versteeg back for a double cheeseburger from McDonalds.

lockman21 06-22-2011 03:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12704740)
I agree, but he was not the "star" goalie in the series.

He kicked ass though.

:ugh:ugh Wait, what?

dmbmuskie 06-22-2011 03:09 PM

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I think Luongo was the bigger name. His performance was looked at as a referendum on the "superstar" goalie.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 03:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12704777)
I think Luongo was the bigger name. His performance was looked at as a referendum on the "superstar" goalie.

I think after the year Thomas had coupled with his 2008-2009 season he's a bigger name than Luongo as far as goalies go.

lockman21 06-22-2011 03:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12704777)
I think Luongo was the bigger name. His performance was looked at as a referendum on the "superstar" goalie.

That's like saying Dirk wasn't a star in the NBA Finals because LeBron was in it too. It makes no sense.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 03:13 PM

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And Thomas played like crap in the 2009-2010 season because of a hip injury. It was downplayed throughout the season but it obviously effected his play a ton.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 03:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12704792)
That's like saying Dirk wasn't a star in the NBA Finals because LeBron was in it too. It makes no sense.

It's not even the same as that because Thomas had a better regular season than Luongo did too.

dmbmuskie 06-22-2011 03:14 PM

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It's just the media spin on things.

dduncan6er 06-22-2011 03:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12704802)
It's just the media spin on things.

I'd say it was pretty established among nearly everyone that Thomas was the better goalie going into the series.

Bron Yr Aur 06-22-2011 03:28 PM

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Well, Philly just cap-fucked themselves.

As if they weren't already...

Didn't work out that great for Chicago last year....

bonzo48280 06-22-2011 03:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12704802)
It's just the media spin on things.

I hope you're joking


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