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Waiting on Barbs reaction. Caps trying to go all in it seems. Doesn't seem like a steep price at all. Don't know much about the goalie though but a 3rd and Brouwer isn't much.

Edit: and there he is.

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Why is no one taking Bickell?

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Well, it only took a couple days to address the winger issue.

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Totally agree. The kid is just packed with skill. Excited to see what he can do with a pivot like Backstrom.

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So, now that I have a minute to actually look at the trade, another good move from BMac in my opinion. Oshie is an upgrade from Brouwer, and the goalie is a decent kid but he's nothing special, plus we really don't need another goalie prospect. Throwing in a third is fine. This is a great move for several reasons. I'll expand my thoughts later when I have more time, but this a great move.

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I like the move as well. It's simple: The Caps had a need, and they addressed it. Without mortgaging the farm, we should add. That is the essence of what trades in sports are for. Washington achieved that here. Good move.

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Good article on how the Kings are probably full of shit and not going to get away with blatant cap circumvention.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmacr...-his-contract/

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Eh, I guess. It's all hearsay and allegations at this point. Until we get full details, we have no idea how "full of shit" the Kings are or are not.

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Yeah I know. I mean he's totally on the same level as Oshie and Williams.

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MacLellan bringing the heat.

I'm very happy about both acquisitions. This gives the Caps real options at forward, not just band aids and hopes. The top 6 could look like this:

Ovie - Nick - Oshie
Johansson - Kuznetsov - Williams

Or this:

Ovie - Nick - Burakovsky
Johansson - Kuznetsov - Oshie

Or this:

Ovie - Nick - Oshie
Burakovsky - Kuznetsov - Williams

Or several other combinations. You get my point. Adding two viable options at RW in the top 6 is massive. No matter what they do, Williams/Oshie/Burakovsky is better than Ward/Brouwer/Fehr. They can choose not to rush Andre into a top 6 role right away this season because now they've got options. They can use a player like Justin Williams in the bottom 6 if they so choose because they've got options. If Johansson gets cold they can comfortably slide him down a line because they've got (you guessed it) options. Options foster competition, competition fosters better hockey. These are two really impressive moves and provided real answers to an issue that was apparent all season last year.

Nice job, BMac. Looks like the Caps are definitely out on Patrick Sharp now.

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man, caps are legit.

about time they, you know, got some north american players on their team who actually won something.

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With Lombardi having a degree in labor law I would assume he has to be fairly certain that this wouldn't come back negatively. As Chris says, that article is all hearsay. I hope Lombardi isn't that dumb or thinks that the NHLPA is that dumb.

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Someone is sporting some serious wood tonight :lol Christmas in July, huh.

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man, for those of you who know me in real life or on the book of faces, you'll know I work at a pretty cool history museum.

today we had over 10,000 visitors.

so needless to say I'm getting blackhawk drunk on zimas right now.

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What history museum?

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Cool. History was always my favorite subject.



This mom and any parent who films their kids like this should get their asses beat.

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/789922

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Let's say it's a place (center?) that has something to do with a document that sounds like Monstitution.

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:lol :lol :lol

Kev, bud. Since we didn't do Camden this year we have to get together. Let me know.

JRS, you're invited too. We can make fun of Becca, who actually thinks he has a shot at the playoffs this year. :lol

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that video is painful.

a much better video, which I cannot find, is the "I'm not bud, I'm Voracek."

It's like a five year old in a living room with a hockey stick and a net, and the dad goes "hey bud...", and the kid goes, "I'm not bud, I'm Voracek."

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This is spot on, but you forgot something. The amount of new sexy ass women who will be walking around in Oshie jerseys next season :thumbsup:thumbsup

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He works at the Prostitutions Center

Im pretty booked for the small window I'm up in Bucks until I have to head back to VA. Maybe next time I'm up this way for sure. Blue Jackets suck :lol

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I mean Williams has value .... Oshie does not so not sure what you are going for here

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Lombardi was the same guy who did not use a complaince buyout on Richards just last year.

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He doesn't get to celebrate in June so....
He's got more value than Bickell. 55 points compared to 28.

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Oshie doesn't have value? Dude has never had a season averaging less than 0.63 points per game, with a career average at 0.70. Bickell's BEST season was 0.48 points per game, with last year at 0.35 and the year before that at 0.25.

Oshie also has a pretty good reputation for having a lot of untapped potential, and a very high ceiling. His talent was enough to get him on Team USA last Olympics. Bickell is just a fat man that happened to be in the right place at the right time during one playoff run.

Bickell will get traded, it's just going to be Bowman waiting it out until he feels he has his best return. Let the free agent market dry up, there will be someone around feeling left out. I just want someone to do it to get it over with, but understand it's potentially going to be quite the waiting period.

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Speaking of free agent market. Still nothing on Ward, Franson or Oduya?

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It was strange how practically no one of note was signed yesterday. It was very quiet. Must be a lot of cap situations with RFA, etc trying to be still sorted out before some of these other guys get signed.

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:twak:ugh

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My only remaining goals for the Flyers are to resign/extend Scorachek and Del Zottl and for none of them to play golf

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MDZ is looking good. I was talking with Carchidi about that Wednesday night at an all star football game. Also thinks B Schenn has the best shot at being traded and that it doesn't look like Lecavalier will be.

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Indeed. Adding all this forward talent gets me sprung.

Dammit.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ5FE72bewI

I do not share the same sentiment regarding Troy Brouwer

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Brouwer was good in his time at Washington, but he was very streaky as well. His playoff play wasn't very good and he was supposed to be a leader come May. Never fully showed.

As for Ward he's def gone as Cap. He's not signed yet bc he wants 4 years when really teams only want to do 3 tops


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Don't expect oshie to do anything in the playoffs....he is a ghost

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So is Brouwer. And St Louis as a whole is a ghost in the playoffs, not just Oshie

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This PC crap is getting on my nerves, now they want the Blackhawks to change their name? To hell with these PC police, fuck em.

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That is very true

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7 years, $52.5 mil for ROR. Wowzers.

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Where did you see this? They won't change it. This isn't a derogatory name like redskins.
Yikes. 6 years and $6mil per for Saad.

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Saw it on CNN actually!

As for Saad, fuck, sucks to loose him!

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Sounds about right for Saad. That's way too rich for Chicago. Feel a lot better about the trade now, in hindsight.

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Ward off to Sharks for 3 years. San Jose is just weird right now. I don't see them as a contender even with the Pacific being wide open after the Ducks.

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MDZ heading to arbitration

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ROR contract is a bit of a joke. JT gonna get 10 million at this point and deserve every penny.

What are the Sharks doing. Are they striving for mediocrity?

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Sharks have been done for a while....makes me sad :(

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Not that Martin and Ward are bad signings (Martin might be a little high but not terrible)but just seems like lack of direction. I don't see them winning so you might as well try and get younger.

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Happy 4th bitches. Stay safe.

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I wonder if Provorov has a shot to make the team with how quickly he signed

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I think he does.

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If that's the case, Gostisbehere will definitely play a few months in Lehigh

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I am a superstitious motherfucker who loves both hockey and soccer. Win or loose in the Women's World Cup final tonight (US vs Japan) I can finally shave my good luck beard - something I have not done since the day the Hawks played their first playoff game. I am beginning to look like a taliban member! :lol

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Leafs sign Rich Clune. This is a great article. Read.

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/rich-clune-hockey-nhl/

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Wings Nyquist files for arbitration so at least that guarantees no offer sheet and that he'll be signed in time for the season. Most of the time Wings don't even get to the meeting and sign them beforehand so either way it's good news. Ferraro also signed so that leaves Jurco (should be pretty cheap) and Pulkinnen. He'll get a decent amount probably based off his AHL season but still shouldn't be too bad.

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thought the saad deal was a pretty good one for the jackets. thought he'd get 6.5

not concerned about term due to his age and the cap going up.

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:lol:lol

#jacketsin5

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I wouldn't be counting at that based off this last year. If the players didn't use the inflator, the cap would have actually gone down.

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I thought that the cap was supposed to jump pretty big in 2 years...is that just speculation?

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My understanding only if revenue goes up big in 2 years. It's all based on revenue and if the Canadian Dollar continues to fall that won't help. And expansion (again from my understanding) only will help if those teams make money out of the gate cause the expansion fees are not hockey related revenue.

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Jimmy Hayes with a huge deal in Boston. Makes that Bickell signing look that much worse.

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Bickell signing looked bad from day 1

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Tarasenko just got paid

8 years/$60 million

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Yeah he did....

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Fuckin a...

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jakey jake is gonna get paid too.

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So I read Rinaldo is going to wear number zero next year. I guess he wants to wear his IQ on the back of his jersey.

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Does the AHL have any requirements for jersey numbers?

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Blues are gonna have some issues in a few years with those big contracts. They better win soon to take advantage of it.

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For those needing a little hockey fix, the Islanders has their annual blue white rookie scrimmage. Ho Sang assisted on all 3 goals for the losing team. He is looking good.

Here is the highlight everyone seems to be talking about.

http://www2.tsn.ca/bardown/Story.asp...oals&id=549947

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I mean...are they though? Who do they need to resign that's going to cause those issues? Most of those cap hits are already taking effect. If it's not screwing them now, why would it later?

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Talked to a handful of Flyers prospects on Wednesday. One was Ghost. Here's my story on him: http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/s...0451c82fa.html

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Nyquist signed for 4 years and $19mil. Down to Jurco and Pulkkinnen.

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That 2nd video is p ridiculous.

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Well that's a steal after what Saad got.

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Sharp to the Stars

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@DallasStars: ICYMI on Periscope: #Stars acquire Patrick Sharp and Steven Johns from @NHLBlackhawks in exchange for Ryan Garbutt and Trevor Daley

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And the Hawks still have work to do to get cap compliant.

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Lol. What in the dear fuck. Patrick Sharp had 78 pts 2 yrs ago. You trade him AND your best defensive prospect for a pile of hot garbage.

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The Daley acquisition puzzles me as there's rumblings that the Hawks are working with Oduya to get him signed. Does that mean they've given up on Oduya? Or maybe they plan to flip Daley in another move? If they keep him, Daley's not terrible.

I imagine Garbutt will slide into the vacancy left by the eventual trading of Bickell and/or Versteeg.

But yeah, that also hurts to give up Johns.

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Johns is probably already better than Daley, lol.

Don't know why we didn't just hold on to Sharp until later in the summer.


This is an absolute steal for Dallas. Sharp is still a very good player, the reason his numbers were down because he was hurt and then dumped to the third line.

Stan have ya lost your damn mind?

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Uh....what the shit.

What a weird offseason. I just don't like this team on paper.

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What he said ^

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hockey!! yeah I got nothing. I need some news or something. Way too long until October.

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You guys hear that thing about that guy that plays hockey for that one team?

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Well, in actual hockey news:

http://www.am980.ca/2015/07/13/buffa...?sc_ref=direct

Classic Sabres. Just when they're appearing to be good, they're in shit again.

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Oduya will not be back with the Hawks for sure now. Sounds like Stars or Sabres are the leading teams.

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If Kruger disappears is it time to start questioning Stan Bowman's decisions?

Or just the Cap is what it is and take the 3 cups and STFU. (Even though Dale Tallon did arguably a lot of the work)

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you take the 3 cups and STFU.

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Fair enough.

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Yea, shut up

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Seriously!

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Dale Tallon also did a lot of the work that fucked the cap in the first place.

Basically nothing Dale Tallon did is left, besides actually draft Toews, Kane, Seabrook, and Keith, etc. None of his contractual footprint is on this team anymore, so I'm not sure what he has to do with the conversation at this point.

Kruger will be back. We'll unload some more cap to make room for him. He doesn't really have many options at this point, being a RFA.

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I wish the Isles were in Oduya but we aren't. I am a little disappointed in our lack of impact moves this summer. Of course, Garth did damage late summer year with the trades for Leddy and Boychuk but I can't assume we will net something similar this year. I wish they weren't so reliant on assuming the youth will get better. I would have liked to see an impact veteran added this summer.

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pens fans, if any of you are actually intelligent, can you tell me why Mario is selling the team?

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because the team will never be worth more than it is now (rumored selling price of circa $850 million) and i also think Mario is tired of the day-to-day stuff

sounds like he just wants to be a minority owner and a figurehead instead of "the guy" at this point

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We can try but are flyers fans intelligent enough to understand? Anyway... here it goes....

This. Plus before Mario bought the team the team owed him back salary and compensation and such. He took equity because the team didn't have enough cash to pay him. He probably wants to cash out now to gain some of that back.

I remember when he un-retired and was a player-owner in 2000 (BTW Jagr was still the captain but the NHL should have let Mario wear an "O"). He either didn't take a salary or took the league minimum. Some teams complained saying it was unfair that the pens got a player of that caliber on the cheap and his salary should have been competitive.

I even remember one rumor had Mario getting traded to NYR because of that.

:lol

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So them plus signing Hossa....yeah he has nothing to do with it....What was I thinking.

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So Oduya to the Stars it is. Still Franson, Semin, Ehrhoff....anyone else out there?

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Stars busy this offseason.

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Trying to get the aging Hawks players.

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And at 2 yrs, $7.5? Awesome signing considering what other D-men went for. Great signing. That's not much more than what the Hawks are paying Daley, right?