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The Kovy deals can't happen anymore. So if Richards being 31 signed a 13 year deal for 80mil a year ago his cap number would just the average which is $6.1mil even if the last 4 years paid him a total $2.5mil. Now it's the amount of money he makes until he's 40 becomes the average. So instead of 80mil over 13 they do 77.5 mil over 9 years. Now all of a sudden his cap number is about $8.6mil. A little different.

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Hawks trade Campbell and Hjalmarrson, sign Sopel and Richards.

Sharp-Richards-Hossa (foaming at the mouth)

(it also won't happen)

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Bluejackets to sign all FA and go undefeated

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Only to be moved to Hartford

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:lol touche.

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The Chicago Wolves could become the farm team of the Canucks. Yuck

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Yeah well that makes sense geographically and everything :ugh

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A lot of farm teams don't make sense geographically.

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You know what else doesnt make sense geographically? The Winnipeg whatevers playing in the Eastern Conference and in the SouthEast division :lol

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Yeah I guess they focus on that more for baseball

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The Wolves were the farm team for Atlanta and the Cafucks feeder was the Manitoba Moose. I guess Winnipeg gets convenience and Vancouver gets fucked. Awesome.

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Manitoba is moving to St Johns so hardly convenient.

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I did not know this. I think the moral of this whole story is fuck Vancouver.

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:thumbsup:thumbsup

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I can agree with this.

This can't be good for Glendale:
http://www.azcentral.com/community/g...s-private.html

You don't withhold stuff if it's good. So it probably shows the whole situation in a bad light.

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serious question here....who do you think is the most hated team in the league right now?

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Vancouver or Washington

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Pretty much spot on with what I was thinking

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Blackhawks. Duh.

;)

EDIT: Hey Bonzo, I've got another business trip coming up... this time in Chicago.

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Oh yeah? When are you coming in? too bad it isn't hockey season

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I'll be in the 22nd and 23rd of June. Yeah, my company sends me to Calgary last month and Chicago this month... all AFTER hockey season! Dicks. I'll touch base with you as it gets closer and buy you a beer or something.

Goes for Chris too, wherever that dude ran off to.

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yeah it would be cool to meet up with you downtown. Let me know man.

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Winnipeg's new NHL team sold out there general public seasons tickets in under 4 minutes...

According to my watch its was under 30 seconds

I tried and got shut-out...

and now I'm 1446 of 8000 on the waiting list, guess I can wait a few more years

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that's crazy. please stick around so that we have a resident Jets fan, at least hopefully you guys become the Jets and not Moose.

Per Eklund: "And I will continue to tell you, no matter how crazy I know it sounds, don't count out the possibility of the Leafs acquiring Stamkos. It is one of those rumors that has a ton of "very, very inside people" buzzing still...I just got off the phone with one source in Tampa who said the possibility is "far more real than anyone is admitting.""

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Heard this too, fuck that!

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I heard there is a BS rumor that Crosby's career is finished. Gimme a break. He'll be back next season I expect.

But think about this hypothetically, and I stress the hypothetical part: what will that do to both Pittsburgh and the NHL itself. And would you consider him a HOFer?

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I'm hearing it's going to be neither.

rumour around Winnipeg is its going to be:

Manitoba Polar Bears.. with powder blue as the jerseys colour.. not sure about that one

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The Winnipeg Moose would be awesome! We need another pro sports team that doesn't end in "s"

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Crosby does not warrant hall of fame status yet. He is sure on the way path but if his career is over as you said a rumor stated it will go down as one of the biggest "what if" careers

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That was shot down by a few people. We'll see. I see Jets, Moose or Falcons. I'm hoping Jets or Falcons. Moose is too minor league. While I'm a huge supporter of the Jets name I saw someone say "Preserve the history of our franchise and keept Jets." What history is that? Two playoff series victories? Again I would love for them to be the Jets but lets not get crazy.
I agree. He's on his way but if his career were to end I don't see him getting in.

As for Pitt. they'd be alright. It would be a huge blow but they've got a good team without him. Not as good obviously but still pretty good and would have $9mil to spend. The NHL in terms of marketing would take a hit. I still think the league as a whole would be great, as I think many people in here would too, but the NHL feels the need for a player like that to market and have a "rivalry" between him and Ovie. So that's where it would hurt the NHL.

That said I don't believe that rumor at all because it was reported the other day he was cleared for workouts.

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I just wanted to put this in here as well. Flyers get Iyla's B's rights...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6637293

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I heard the "Moose" rumour the day the team was sold, which doesn't strike me as terribly good. Pretty sure it was also the name of the minor league team that played in Manitoba after the Jets left, but I'd also heard that the NHL was more than willing to make the Jets franchise name available to the franchise if they wanted (I'm not sure how that works, except to speculate that the NHL owns the copyrights to all franchise names, past and current, or something to that effect).

I'd prefer the Jets name comes back, although it wasn't the best the first time around, either. Polar Bears really doesn't work for me (and would certainly look ridiculous for their one season in the Southeast Division). Something evoking images of snow would probably work pretty well--the Winnipeg Blizzard (which was at one time the name of Buffalo's Major Indoor Soccer League team) wouldn't be bad.

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Can they add numbers in Philadelphia?

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Porbably not Joe, but I like the effort

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Gonna have to trade someone in the 4M - 6M range. Probably Carter as everyone knows. I'd be fine with that. They're gonna have to overpay for Bryzgalov either way.... (Reminds me of when they had to make a splash in 06-07 and signed Briere. Gonna have to overpay. But at the same time, they need it. (It being a goalie..)

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How much does Bryz want? Based off the article it sounds like he wants about $7mil.

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If anyone cares - The Bluejackets fired their two head scouts yesterday. They had both been there since the beginning.

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I've heard 5 years, 30 mil. He wants a nice paycheck--that's for sure.

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Yeah it sure is. But the Flyers really need a goalie and I'd say Bryz is definitely a top 10 goalie in the league.

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Yeah that would be money well spent for the Flyers. Although recently in this league it seems goalies can change extremely quickly. That'd be a tough contract to swallow if he lost it

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So I am on my phone at work so sorry for asking questions I could probably easily find my own, but how much space do the Flyers have? I know it's not a lot. And also did the cap go up yet this season?

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Not sure about how much cap room the flyers have but the cap is definitely going up for next year.

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I would go so far as to say top 5. He has gone largely unnoticed in Phoenix, but has been one of the most consistently excellent goalies the past two seasons, rarely having a bad game while playing for an average team.

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I think top 5 is a bit of a stretch right now with guys like Thomas, Rinne, Luongo, Miller, and Lundqvist all ahead of him. But he definitely has a shot at cracking that top 5 very soon.

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See, and last season I wouldn't put him below Miller, and maybe on par with Lundqvist. Very similar to Henrik, he had the burden of basically carrying an average team. The Rangers don't make the playoffs without Lundqvist, and the Yotes don't either without Bryzgalov. I'd be interested to see him on a bigger stage, where he'll be noticed for how good he really is.

EDIT: Sorry, I just realized how kinda silly it is to argue top 5 or top 10. I started it, my bad. I think we can both agree he's an elite NHL goaltender, and that's probably good enough.

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It'll be intersting to see how he reacts to playing in a bigger market. He'll have a lot more pressure on him to win and a lot of people will start questioning him right away if he has a slow start for them.

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And to your edit yes I agree. :lol

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The more important question to ask is if in all your mids, Ilya Bryzgalov is a Top 250 player? I say no.

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When you compare him to the types of players who are in the top 250 (i.e. a certain OMGCG), I agree with an emphatic negative!

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How about the Great One's kid getting drafted by the Cubs?

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/ml...ory?id=6635887

Baseball? Where did Gretzky go wrong as he raised this kid? :lol

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I love Gretzky's quote "I couldn't relate. I was never drafted." :lol:lol:lol

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Friend of a friend works at 670 The Score, sports radio here in Chicago. Gretzky was on today to talk about his kid being drafted by the Cubs. Check out this guys status:

"OK...Wayne Gretzky just emailed me a "Thank You" for having him on. He signed it "99". Awesome."

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Don't think the Flyers will have to overpay for Bryz. I'm not sure of the market for him or any goalies making that much in this offseason.

Remember he did go 0-4 in the playoffs this year. Overpaying him or not, some key parts of the Flyers will have to go elsewhere.

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They Coyotes didn't get swept because of him though

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I didn't say that. I'm not discounting him as a great goalie. We just have yet to see him on a team that could be a threat to go deep in the playoffs. A team with expectations. Could decrease his value a little and be beneficial for a team like the Flyers who will be up against the Cap.

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Not completely his fault. It could also be pointed out that he played well for Anaheim during their runs when called upon.

He would definitely be an upgrade, and something Philly needs to address. He's an elite goalie in his prime, and hopefully if signed he won't fall victim to the Flyers goalie curse.

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Billy G is a Penguin again. Glad to see he's officially apart of the organization.

http://penguins.nhl.com/club/news.ht...id=DL|PIT|home

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Bryzgalov should be paid around the same amount that Lundqvist makes. I think he singed something around six years/40 million.

What's more interesting, is where does Phoenix go from here? Jason LaBarbera is the slated #1 for next year, as of now.

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I was thinking the exact same thing. LaBarbera has played well in a backup role, but is unproven as a starter. Do they take a chance with him, also factoring in the money they'd save? Given their financial situation, they don't have a lot to spend on a free agent (especially with Yandle needing a new contract), but someone like Johan Hedberg or Ty Conklin would be interesting options to explore as a split-time situation with LaBarbera.

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the Flyers have about 400k right now, so probably a few more dollars after the cap goes up. they only have 18 guys on the roster, so I think even if they don't sign Bryz, people will still go.

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There aren't too many teams looking for franchise goalies this summer. I think that the two sides realize this, and a deal will get done in the 30-40 million range.

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To Ant's post, I agree. It's getting to the point where teams are pretty content with their goalies, due to all the talent in the league right now.

Because I'm bored at work (;)), here's how it's looking. Not too many question marks:

Anaheim: Hiller
Boston: Thomas
Buffalo: Miller
Calgary: Kiprusoff
Carolina: Ward
Chicago: Crawford
Columbus: Mason
Colorado: Elliott
Dallas: Lehtonen
Detroit: Howard
Edmonton: Khabibulin
Florida: ??? (Clemmenson)
Los Angeles: Quick
Minnesota: Fernandez
Montreal: Price
Nashville: Rinne
New Jersey: Brodeur
NYI: DiPietro (:lol more like Montoya)
NYR: Lundqvist
Ottawa: Anderson
Philadelphia: ??? (Bobrovsky)
Phoenix: ??? (LaBarbera)
Pittsburgh: Fleury
San Jose: Niemi
St. Louis: Halak
Tampa Bay: Roloson (Smith if he retires)
Toronto: ??? (Reimer/Gustavsson)
Vancouver: Luongo
Washington: ??? (Neuvirth, Varlamov)
Winnipeg: Pavelec

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I think Backstrom is the guy in Minnesota. Unless he's a free agent which he could be because I have no idea.

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There are rumors here that CBJ might go after Tuuka Rask

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:lol Rask isn't going anywhere unless Nash is coming to Boston.

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:lol:lol Sorry, I was thinking Manny effin' Fernandez!!!! You're absolutely right.

Living in the past obviously...

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Hey I don't make the rumors I just read them

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Can you link the rumor? I'm actually very curious about it. I just can't see Rask going anywhere and I'm curious to see what this person thinks the logic for both teams would be in this deal.

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I can look for it later - I was driving to work this morning and on the Columbus Dispatch building they have one of those scorlling news tickers - the headline was "Jackets interested in Bruins Rask"

:lol I figured he was a free agent - I have no idea why the Bruins would trade him either

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Rask is signed through next year and then he's a RFA.

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Especially with Thomas close to retirement (he's playing out of his mind, but 37 is not young), Rask's value is very high to the Bruins. They may be interested now, but I don't know if they'd be interested in Boston's price tag.

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Yeah that's the thinking I have. We have arguably the best goalie in the league with another potential franchise goalie waiting for him to retire. It's really a perfect goaltending situation to have for the Bruins and I doubt the CBJ's will want to part with what the Bruins will ask which will likely involve Nash (obviously the Bruins would have to give them something else in addition to Nash).

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If CBJ traded Nash they might as well just move the team to Hartford the same day. He's the only reason worth going to watch them play. He also loves playing here for some reason - no pressure maybe

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Honestly, I don't know how the Flyers can possibly take a cap hit of $6mil or more right now with the cap space that they don't have. I mean, Bob was so solid during the regular season, especially for a rookie. Yeah, he had a rough playoffs, but I don't think 6 starts in the playoffs without success means he can't be a great goalie in the regular season and playoffs. Yeah, last year Niemi was a rookie and played well in the playoffs, but he was much older than Bobrovsky is. I just think Philly has a really solid G already. I know that great goalies can take teams on playoff runs, but depth is what wins the Cup. I don't think you sacrifice depth for a goalie.

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I'm hoping for something on the low end of 30 million. Flyers need to tell Bryz how it is--if he's serious about contending for a Cup, he might have to take a decrease in salary, or at least backload his contract.

Flyers beat reporter also stated the Bob might be on the trade market, technically makes sense because of his cap hit--but something I do not like one bit.

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I mean, Bryz made $4.25m last season and is coming off 2 of his best seasons. The guy is not going to go along with a small raise. Someone will give him $6mil a year. I don't think the Flyers can afford to pay 2 goalies a total of $8 million.

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Yeah, but....GOALTENDING WINS STANLEY CUSP!@#@#$@#$@$!#!#!#!!#!#!#

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Bob McKenzie just tweeted that the Flyers told him they are not looking into trading Carter.

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That's old school right there :lol

The Hockey News noted that Toronto might be the team to push hardcore for Bryzgalov, while giving Reimer another season in the AHL.

Judging by that list, I'd say teams that would have interest (other than Philly) would be Colorado, Columbus and Toronto.

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People are saying the Cap can go up anywhere from 2-4 million.

I think he's going to get about 6 million.

Boosh and Leighton will be gone which will free up roughly 2.5 million

Zherdev will be gone which will free up 2 million.

I think Leino will be gone which will free up almost 1 million

I wouldn't be surprised if the Flyers end up trading Carter to dump some of his salary and pick up some role players in exchange for depth.

I will not be shedding a single tear if they have to part ways with ol' frosted tips

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One year ago today (6/9/10) the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup and it became not just the greatest night of my life, but the greatest summer of my life. I really think the Hawks had a shot at it this year, and I feel like we missed it by the few inches that Sharp missed his shot by. We'll contend next year, and hopefully a year from today I can do it all again.

Happy Anniversary Hawks fans!!!

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Really both threads? Why not make your own thread while you are at it?

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:lol nice Bonzo.

Everyone still feel that Luongo is an elite goalie :lol Guy is a headcase

Lololuongo

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I could. You can't.

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Report out there the Rangers will buyout the last season of Drury's contract.

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I can definitely see Toronto making a big push for Bryzgalov.

Colorado seems content to go with Elliott. I'm on the fence for this one... I know they're trying to put together a young roster that can grow together, but I guess my anxiety just comes his inexperience. His stats won't show, but Elliott played pretty well in front of a really bad Colorado defense for the last half of last season, but how he will do as a full-time starter is another thing altogether, and that makes me nervous.

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If the Flyers are going to trade Carter for scraps and let a bunch of role players go, they can expect a season like the Hawks experienced in 2010/11. That's not the way to win a Cup.

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Only issue with Toronto going after Bryz would they have enough cap space left to maker a run at Richards too?

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They would definitely have to decide between the two of them. I know the rumor mill is reporting Bryzgalov, but Reimer played well for them last year and Gustavsson, despite his injury issues, has a lot of promise. If it were up to me, I'd choose Richards because of the huge hole at center. The Leafs really have nothing even close to a first line pivot man.

EDIT: This is, of course, assuming they could convince one or both of these players to even consider playing for them...

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Interesting:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=368346

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Speaking of Reimer, just saw this:

http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...year-deal.html

Possible indication of their plans with him.

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Multiple sources are saying John Madden will be back next season with the Hawks with a very cap friendly deal to fill the 3rd line center role. Not against this at all if he can still win draws and kill the way he did last season.

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Yeah, this is too bad, but probably the right business move for the Rangers. Drury is the definition of a warrior and a great leader, but his body has just had it. Buying him out frees up some important cap space, and it is also rumored they may buy out Wolski as well in preparation to make a run at Brad Richards.

I can't help but think Drury's career is about done. He would be an important veteran presence on any team, but he would have to take a bargain deal because of his knee issues.

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I would literally kill to have Drury for the right price.

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The right price? He shouldn't even command more than $1m. Guy is on the steady decline....maybe he even retires. Not worth it.

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His big contract days are over. $500-600K I would think, with the understanding he'd be mainly used for faceoffs and killing penalties. That's not a slam on him - he's just at that point in his career. His main contribution would be in the dressing room and demonstrating his work ethic. If he retires, I think he would do great in player development.

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Shero just re-signed Craig "Fuckin" Adams for another two years @ $0.675 mil. Not too shabby, great role player!

http://penguins.nhl.com/club/news.ht...id=DL|PIT|home

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Richards could very well wind up in Tampa Bay again. It certainly wouldn't surprise me.

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He's a big game player. Always has been.

This is the right move for the Rangers, given the NMC he possesses in his deal.

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As far as Reimer goes, i don't know if it says it in the article or not, but he got 3 years for 1.8 million. which I think is a pretty good deal. He is projected to be the Leafs #1 next season and if they keep giguere on a bargain bin contract than we have a pretty solid 1,2 combo. Giguere is a great fit because he is a great mentor for Reimer, they play a very similar style and has worked with the goalie guru Francois Allaire for years now. If he can stay healthy he still has the ability to come in and shut another team down.


I think Richards is a possibility to play for the Leafs. We'll see though. They have the Cap space and Richards has said that he wanted to come back to the east. He'd be a perfect fit in the #1 center role and would make the top six quite potent as a whole. It would look like


Lupul--Richards--Kessel
Kulemin- Grabovski--Mac


With richards in that line-up that top six is all over 20 goals each with three to five hitting the 30 goal mark.

They seem to have a sound top 4 d core and if reimer can compete every night like he did last year they all of a sudden have a pretty solid team that can compete for a 6-8spot in the eastern conference.