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fonzz41 10-04-2013 11:01 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 14852422)
I really am a fan of how Columbus is building their team.

I am too. Building from the net out, which I love. Putting pieces into place that can be built around as well as being built to last. Complementing those pieces with the right group of veterans who demonstrate the right kind of work ethic. Schreibs has plenty of reason to be excited.
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 14852506)
Not comparing them to Lidstrom, cause he was one of the best of all times and very unique, but his best years were after the age of 30. Won all his Norris Trophies after 30. Won a Conn Smythe at 32. Two of the Cups were after 30.

This is such a good point, Tim. Whereas a good forward usually hit his peak around 25-ish, really good defensemen hit their stride around 28-30. Defense is such a calculating position, one where no short amount of wisdom is required to play it well. Yes, guys like Subban can win Norris trophies for scoring goals on the PP and throwing an occasional big hit, but the REALLY good defensemen are the ones the casual fan barely notices because they're playing such a calculated, error-free game. That wisdom only comes with time, and lots of it. Lidstrom, Bourque, Blake, Foote, MacInnis, Niedermayer, Leetch, Pronger, Chara, Zubov, and others all had good seasons as young players, but REALLY settled in to becoming GREAT defensemen in their 30s.

Excited to see how some of these young defense studs mature.
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 14852511)
Maybe he thinks he'll have an aneurysm. That's completely within the realm of possibility after the freak out the other night.

It is absolutely possible. Very true.

swordo84 10-04-2013 11:58 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
An interesting tid-bit of info I was unaware of regarding coach's fines;

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob McKenzie via TSN.ca
A common practice in the NHL when we hear about a coach being fined $10,000 is that they don't actually cash the cheque. They put it in a security deposit and it's basically a good behavior bond. If you don't act up in the next six months or a year, you get the money back. But in this particular case, because Patrick Roy is such a high profile guy and because there was such physical contact with that partition that went down - and almost onto Bruce Boudreau - my understanding is that Roy is actually out of pocket by $10,000.


TMoore4075 10-04-2013 12:06 PM

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Watched that on TSN.ca this morning. I was surprised by that. I loved TSN showing the top 10 bench outbursts. Crawford and Bowman is still great. Bowman all calm like it's not big deal just having a conversation. Crawford...about to explode.

TMoore4075 10-04-2013 12:16 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
https://twitter.com/wyshynski/status/386146909867356161

haha

fonzz41 10-04-2013 12:30 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 14852652)
Watched that on TSN.ca this morning. I was surprised by that. I loved TSN showing the top 10 bench outbursts. Crawford and Bowman is still great. Bowman all calm like it's not big deal just having a conversation. Crawford...about to explode.

And through it all, Crawford's hair stayed perfect the whole time.

fonzz41 10-04-2013 12:44 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Another great vlogumn by Bucci.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/notebook/_/pa...13/hockey-life

Again, the reason I love Bucci: He's a fan of hockey more than he's a fan of the NHL.

Rebecca De Mornay 10-04-2013 01:05 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
:lol well he picked CBJ to go to conference finals so I hope he knows what he's talking about

Rebecca De Mornay 10-04-2013 01:33 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Just realized Bolland scored 2 against the Flyers.

Are you doing ok Lockman?

fonzz41 10-04-2013 02:17 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
From what I've heard, Chris and Dave are trying the long distance thing. It hurts to be apart, but I'm sure Chris loves to see Dave doing so well.

TMoore4075 10-04-2013 03:25 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 14852840)
From what I've heard, Chris and Dave are trying the long distance thing. It hurts to be apart, but I'm sure Chris loves to see Dave doing so well.

Since I'm right in between Chicago and Toronto, I've let hem rendezvous at my place. I've soundproofed the room though cause...yikes.

fonzz41 10-04-2013 03:39 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 14852923)
Since I'm right in between Chicago and Toronto, I've let hem rendezvous at my place. I've soundproofed the room though cause...yikes.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol Such passionate souls.

salrx95 10-04-2013 04:55 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Isles finally open tonight. It's about time. Feel like I can finally join in the season. Nice to see a Rangers loss and watching Roy could be fun. He is gonna be writing a lot checks this year, me thinks.

Daneyko said Isles are the best team in the NY area. I'll be shocked if that turns out to be true but man, I hope he is right.

~Crashintome89~ 10-04-2013 09:20 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 14852840)
From what I've heard, Chris and Dave are trying the long distance thing. It hurts to be apart, but I'm sure Chris loves to see Dave doing so well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 14852923)
Since I'm right in between Chicago and Toronto, I've let hem rendezvous at my place. I've soundproofed the room though cause...yikes.

:lol Lol :lol :lol :lol

You guys are brutal.

On the subject of defensemen--I actually see them as a poor man's NFL quarterback. They have such a workload defensively to figure out the coverages and the matchups--and then God forbid if they are a powerplay quarterback.

dmbetc 10-04-2013 09:59 PM

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So many chances in front for the Kings through 1. With 18 SOG in the first they need to bury more of them.

TMoore4075 10-04-2013 10:27 PM

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Zetterberg with 16.4 left! I'll take a point after down 2-0.

TMoore4075 10-04-2013 10:33 PM

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And Weiss gets his 1st to win it in ot.

hoke2007 10-04-2013 10:37 PM

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What a rally by the Wings tonight! Great start so far for the team. New guys are fitting in really well and the veterans seem to be firing on all cylinders.

TMoore4075 10-04-2013 10:40 PM

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So this is what it's like to have a game finish before 10pm.

dmbetc 10-04-2013 10:44 PM

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:lol I must admit it is very strange to have some games starting at 4pm.

TMoore4075 10-04-2013 10:47 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 14853445)
:lol I must admit it is very strange to have some games starting at 4pm.

Yeah that would be weird. I mean I just turned on Tigers/Athletics and it's 9:30 here and it's light out there.

fonzz41 10-05-2013 01:44 AM

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Chad, my man, what a fun game tonight! Another very complete game by the Avs, who are really firing on all cylinders. Their puck possession and control is just other-worldly right now, and I love how every player is working hard. Very hard. Even the defense looked sharper tonight, although they still need some work.

The only thing that kept the score so low was an incredibly good Nashville defense. Wow, I forget just how solid they are as a complete team unit. Notice how the Avs hardly ever spent any time in the middle of the Preds' zone? Masterful job by Trotz's boys at keeping everyone to the outside.

Most noticeable player tonight? Steve Downie. Guy was an absolute beast out there. Such an important piece to the Av's puzzle. I want to take another look at his hit on Josi. It definitely looked like he left his feet. I missed the replays, but what I saw could warrant a call from Sheriff Shanny.

Guys, watch out for Matt Duchene. He got even stronger this year, which, combined with his speed, makes him dangerous. He's strong on the puck, has great balance, and is battling hard - continuing his trend from last year. And he's still the fastest guy on the team. LOOK. OUT.

I kept an eye on Jones tonight. The fact that he WASN'T too noticeable out there is of course a good thing. He wasn't an all-star, but that's not what i would expect from a rookie defenseman. He played a mostly error-free game and was calm and composed. Still very optimistic about his future, although the way MacKinnon is playing is making it hard to miss my Sethy. The MacKinnon-Parenteau-McGinn line has something like 9 points already.

fonzz41 10-05-2013 01:46 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 14853385)
On the subject of defensemen--I actually see them as a poor man's NFL quarterback. They have such a workload defensively to figure out the coverages and the matchups--and then God forbid if they are a powerplay quarterback.

Great point, pal. It's not like defensemen have to learn anything NEW per se... the fundamentals of the game are the same. It just takes time to adjust to performing those fundamentals at 100 mph instead of 65.

DynastyDrummer1 10-05-2013 02:10 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
81 shots in the Ottawa/Buffalo game tonight. 80 saves. Miller let it in with just over a minute to go. Shots were 46/35 Ottawa. Definitely a first in all of the games I've ever been to.

JRS1386 10-05-2013 11:33 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
So here are my goalies for tongiht (bolded confirmed starters on leftwinglock)

Rask vs Det
Halak vs Fla
Price vs Phi
Emery vs Mon

I get to start two of these sexy beasts and I am assuming Rask will start and Emery may as well get his first start tonight. I am leaning towards Rask and Halak, any thoughts?

thechad90000 10-05-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 14853511)
Chad, my man, what a fun game tonight! Another very complete game by the Avs, who are really firing on all cylinders. Their puck possession and control is just other-worldly right now, and I love how every player is working hard. Very hard. Even the defense looked sharper tonight, although they still need some work.

The only thing that kept the score so low was an incredibly good Nashville defense. Wow, I forget just how solid they are as a complete team unit. Notice how the Avs hardly ever spent any time in the middle of the Preds' zone? Masterful job by Trotz's boys at keeping everyone to the outside.

Most noticeable player tonight? Steve Downie. Guy was an absolute beast out there. Such an important piece to the Av's puzzle. I want to take another look at his hit on Josi. It definitely looked like he left his feet. I missed the replays, but what I saw could warrant a call from Sheriff Shanny.

Guys, watch out for Matt Duchene. He got even stronger this year, which, combined with his speed, makes him dangerous. He's strong on the puck, has great balance, and is battling hard - continuing his trend from last year. And he's still the fastest guy on the team. LOOK. OUT.

I kept an eye on Jones tonight. The fact that he WASN'T too noticeable out there is of course a good thing. He wasn't an all-star, but that's not what i would expect from a rookie defenseman. He played a mostly error-free game and was calm and composed. Still very optimistic about his future, although the way MacKinnon is playing is making it hard to miss my Sethy. The MacKinnon-Parenteau-McGinn line has something like 9 points already.


I didn't go to bed as upset about that game as the previous. The Avs looked really improved and I was impressed.

The Downie incident isn't even being reviewed by Shanny and that's bs. He torpedoed himself at Josis head. Just another case for why fighting needs to stay. The league won't do anything so someone needs to and they were really giving it to Downie all night.

Jones played mistake free for the most part and I even saw him out there with Weber a few times. Obviously Trotz trusts him enough to have the most ice time throughout the first. I'm very excited to see his progression.

~Crashintome89~ 10-05-2013 12:40 PM

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Yeah, Downie definitely left his feet on that hit. There's no way you're that high in the air without leaving your feet.

At the very least it was a penalty for charging.

thechad90000 10-05-2013 01:09 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Lots of people saying he didn't leave his feet until after the hit. Still, it seemed like he was targeting Josi's head.

Bron Yr Aur 10-05-2013 01:30 PM

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Downie left his feet only after contact was made, it looks like. I haven't seen any really good slow-motion replays though. Hard to tell.

Fighting occurs so often after these hits but it is almost impossible to determine the "cleanliness" of the hit in real time. So you just have players guessing and going after guys and basically it just boils down to vigilante justice.

fonzz41 10-05-2013 01:39 PM

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He did get a charging penalty. I still haven't watched a really good replay, but it was certainly reckless. Downie's been really well behaved sice he came to the Avs, but he still plays with that edge. Good on weber and bourque for jumping in.

Bron Yr Aur 10-05-2013 01:45 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 14853668)
He did get a charging penalty. I still haven't watched a really good replay, but it was certainly reckless. Downie's been really well behaved sice he came to the Avs, but he still plays with that edge. Good on weber and bourque for jumping in.

Two guys jumping in and delivering punches to a guy on the ice is not just as dirty as the charging penalty committed by Downie?

And were the Preds still given a PP even after Weber and Bourque jumped in? If so, that is just nonsense.

On another subject....after watching the highlights, it looked like Duchene was in total beast mode.

thechad90000 10-05-2013 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 14853670)
Two guys jumping in and delivering punches to a guy on the ice is not just as dirty as the charging penalty committed by Downie?

And were the Preds still given a PP even after Weber and Bourque jumped in? If so, that is just nonsense.

On another subject....after watching the highlights, it looked like Duchene was in total beast mode.


Colorado got a PP afterward and the jumping in was justified. Whether he left his feet before the hit or not, it was very questionable and took Josi out of the game.

And Duchene was very much in beast mode

fonzz41 10-05-2013 01:59 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 14853670)
Two guys jumping in and delivering punches to a guy on the ice is not just as dirty as the charging penalty committed by Downie?

And were the Preds still given a PP even after Weber and Bourque jumped in? If so, that is just nonsense.

On another subject....after watching the highlights, it looked like Duchene was in total beast mode.

Yeah it was 4 on 4. Weber got 2 for roughing. We won't agree on this, but after a dangerous hit like that I'm totally ok with guys sending a message that it's not ok. I know, I know, send the message a different way... Vigilante justice.... Etc. you and I won't agree and that's ok.

Glad you noticed Duchene too. He's been mainly noticed for his speed. People aren't noticing yet how strong he's getting. He drew like two penalties last night as a result of people not being able to keep up with him or knock him off the puck. The guy gives 110% every shift. Keep your eye on him, guys.

Bron Yr Aur 10-05-2013 02:53 PM

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Well, I mean I'm glad that Weber was penalized, then because you can't have it both ways obviously. I don't really like the fighting and I get that Shea Weber is thinking, it's more important that I stick up for my fellow d-man than take the power play. I don't like it but that's the way it is in hockey. Just very hard for me to rationalize it because everyone complains when players start fights after a clean hit but the line between clean and dirty is not very well defined and extremely difficult to judge in real time in the heat of the moment.

~Crashintome89~ 10-05-2013 04:08 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 14853700)
Well, I mean I'm glad that Weber was penalized, then because you can't have it both ways obviously. I don't really like the fighting and I get that Shea Weber is thinking, it's more important that I stick up for my fellow d-man than take the power play. I don't like it but that's the way it is in hockey. Just very hard for me to rationalize it because everyone complains when players start fights after a clean hit but the line between clean and dirty is not very well defined and extremely difficult to judge in real time in the heat of the moment.

Do you even like hockey anymore?

JRS1386 10-05-2013 04:45 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 14853732)
Do you even like hockey anymore?

Did he to begin with?

JRS1386 10-05-2013 08:51 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Fucking quick whistlr

bradshaw06 10-05-2013 11:03 PM

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Tim Thomas got lit upppp tonight

JRS1386 10-05-2013 11:07 PM

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Awful, awful defensive performance tonight. I wonder how different this team would be if we didn't offer Weber an offer sheet we knew Nashville had to accept. We could have tried to get him when he hit free agency and improve our woeful defense. Streit and Coburn had two awful plays that led to Candien goals. Also sucks that the Read goal was waved off due to shitty refs

dmbetc 10-05-2013 11:26 PM

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Makes me so happy seeing the Tampa/Florida score. Haha Tim Thomas.

JRS1386 10-05-2013 11:37 PM

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Me too, I have Halak going and I assume you meant St Louis/Florida score

dmbetc 10-05-2013 11:48 PM

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:lol oh yeah, I did. I don't know why but I always mix the two of them up, even though I'm thinking of the right team.

~Crashintome89~ 10-06-2013 02:07 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Fuck I didn't start Halak.

mr.MikeD 10-06-2013 02:43 AM

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Oilers gonna oil.

JRS1386 10-06-2013 03:05 AM

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http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/9dEBJm...&preview=true/

swordo84 10-07-2013 09:58 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.MikeD (Post 14854320)
Oilers gonna oil.

Ugh, le sigh :lorraine

Rebecca De Mornay 10-07-2013 10:08 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Well game Friday night was a lot of fun until the 3rd period. Pretty awesome to see the crowd so into it.

Glad to see them bounce back against the Isles Saturday, it's such a long season but I just hope they didn't leave a bad taste in anyone's mouth Friday, they really needed to carry the momentum from last year.

swordo84 10-07-2013 10:36 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Well, that didn't take long;

‏@DNFlyers Flyers have fired Peter Laviolette, per a source. Replacing him with Craig Berube. Press conference at 11am.

Rebecca De Mornay 10-07-2013 10:46 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
:lol:lol already?!

TMoore4075 10-07-2013 10:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 14855617)
Well, that didn't take long;

‏@DNFlyers Flyers have fired Peter Laviolette, per a source. Replacing him with Craig Berube. Press conference at 11am.

Holy crap. Yeah that didn't take long at all. I know it's more than just this season that he's getting fired for, but has a coach ever been fired this early in the season?

Rebecca De Mornay 10-07-2013 10:47 AM

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View from my seats this year:

http://imgur.com/KLpP0bL

wampa3 10-07-2013 10:49 AM

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you'd think if the idea was there they would have fired him over the summer and taken their time to find a new coach

Go home Flyers, you're drunk.

hailtopitt 10-07-2013 10:50 AM

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lol flyers!

wampa3 10-07-2013 10:53 AM

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Lollergren

Gotta think Paul is going to follow suit soon if he's not careful.

TMoore4075 10-07-2013 10:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wampa3 (Post 14855647)
you'd think if the idea was there they would have fired him over the summer and taken their time to find a new coach

Go home Flyers, you're drunk.

Exactly. You had all summer to do this. If you fire him now you clearly were thinking about it before.
Quote:

Originally Posted by wampa3 (Post 14855654)
Lollergren

Gotta think Paul is going to follow suit soon if he's not careful.

Bucci posted he had heard Paul's seat is hot too.

FYI:
Per @NHLAdamK:
According to TSN, earliest coach ever had been fired was 4 games into a season (Savard, Chi, 2008; Hlinka, Pitt, 2000; Demers, Mtl, 1995)

fonzz41 10-07-2013 11:28 AM

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Too bad for Laviolette. But, as we've talked about before, so goes the coaching carousel in the NHL. He will be employed before long and will probably do very well wherever he goes. I like the guy.

Very interested to see how Berube does.

wampa3 10-07-2013 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 14855659)
Exactly. You had all summer to do this. If you fire him now you clearly were thinking about it before.

Bucci posted he had heard Paul's seat is hot too.

FYI:
Per @NHLAdamK:
According to TSN, earliest coach ever had been fired was 4 games into a season (Savard, Chi, 2008; Hlinka, Pitt, 2000; Demers, Mtl, 1995)

It's insane. Flyers could potentially have hired Torts, Vigneault, Ruff, or Eakins over the summer. Instead, Craig Berube.

#CrosbySux
OMGCG

swordo84 10-07-2013 12:11 PM

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@cotsonika Holmgren called this a "gut feeling" and the Flyers aren't playing well enough to win. Up to Berube to pinpoint problem. Have fun, Craig.

wampa3 10-07-2013 12:14 PM

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Problem: Richards, Carter, and Bobrovsky traded to sign Bryzgalov. Bryzgalov bought out after two seasons.

Solution: Fire the coach.

TMoore4075 10-07-2013 12:16 PM

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I liked the part where he felt the shortened season wasn't enough that he deserved more time to prove himself. Three games? Sorry if you were ready to pull the trigger after three games, you should have been ready in the offseason.

dmbetc 10-07-2013 12:19 PM

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What a fiesty press conference!

fonzz41 10-07-2013 12:26 PM

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Holmgren's fighting for his life at this point, and he is 100% aware of it.

lockman21 10-07-2013 12:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 14855617)
Well, that didn't take long;

‏@DNFlyers Flyers have fired Peter Laviolette, per a source. Replacing him with Craig Berube. Press conference at 11am.

Unreal. Why now? Honestly? If he was that much on the hot seat, fire him before the season and hire someone new then, so the team at least has the offseason/training camp to work with the new guy?

Also, Holmgren still having his job is an absolute JOKE. His Wikipedia entry is hysterical though, not sure how long it'll last:

Quote:

Paul Howard Holmgren (born December 2, 1955) is an American former professional ice hockey right winger who played 10 seasons in the National Hockey League (NHL) for the Philadelphia Flyers and Minnesota North Stars. He moved into coaching after his playing career, serving as head coach of the Flyers and Hartford Whalers. He then moved into management and is currently running the Philadelphia Flyers into the ground.
Laviolette isn't the one that traded Mike Richards, Jeff Carter, James Van Riemsdyk or BOBROVSKY!...the one that continues to trade away almost every draft pick they have which has resulted in possibly the worst group of prospects in the league...OR the one that started his team this season with about 100 defensemen on the books, with two backup goaltenders, etc. etc.

Holmgren honestly is approaching Mike Milbury status. He is so bad. He had a great team in 2010 that could have been managed around to build a perennial Stanley Cup contender, and he absolutely blew it.

Maybe Laviolette's time was up, I don't know the situation as well as I'm sure some Flyers fans do, but Holmgren's time is WAY expired. This should be every Flyers fan in regards to Holmgren:

http://youtu.be/b07sactDEKU?t=7s

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 14855644)
View from my seats this year:

htttp://imgur.com/KLpP0bL

Added in an extra "t" there, my friend.

Seats look awesome though.

Rebecca De Mornay 10-07-2013 12:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 14855830)
Added in an extra "t" there, my friend.

Seats look awesome though.

:lol:lol I couldn't for the life of me figure out why that didn't create a link.

dmbetc 10-07-2013 12:49 PM

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I edited your post sweet cakes.

~Crashintome89~ 10-07-2013 01:06 PM

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The Flyers are on par with that Khardasians show.

Roose13 10-07-2013 01:08 PM

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As you know, Lavy fired. Here's my story with bunch of quotes including the Snider vs Eskin blow up: http://flyers.thecheckingline.com/bl...raig-berube-re

lockman21 10-07-2013 01:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 14855881)
As you know, Lavy fired. Here's my story with bunch of quotes including the Snider vs Eskin blow up: http://flyers.thecheckingline.com/bl...raig-berube-re

:lol Wow. Holmgren has that organization in a vice grip. Absolutely dreadful front office in Philly.

dmbetc 10-07-2013 01:18 PM

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"I would never say to Paul, 'you can't make a change.'" :lol

BotheLaneFan 10-07-2013 01:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 14855878)
The Flyers are on par with that Khardasians show.

It bothers me how bad this season has been. :(

~Crashintome89~ 10-07-2013 01:51 PM

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It bothers me that my phone can auto-correctly spell reality tv shows.

Bron Yr Aur 10-07-2013 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 14855830)
Unreal. Why now? Honestly? If he was that much on the hot seat, fire him before the season and hire someone new then, so the team at least has the offseason/training camp to work with the new guy?

Just to play devil's advocate, the Hawks fired Savard only a few games into the season and haven't missed the playoffs since....but then again Berube isn't exactly Joel Quenneville.

Quote:

Laviolette isn't the one that traded Mike Richards, Jeff Carter, James Van Riemsdyk or BOBROVSKY!...the one that continues to trade away almost every draft pick they have which has resulted in possibly the worst group of prospects in the league...OR the one that started his team this season with about 100 defensemen on the books, with two backup goaltenders, etc. etc.

Holmgren honestly is approaching Mike Milbury status. He is so bad. He had a great team in 2010 that could have been managed around to build a perennial Stanley Cup contender, and he absolutely blew it.

Maybe Laviolette's time was up, I don't know the situation as well as I'm sure some Flyers fans do, but Holmgren's time is WAY expired. This should be every Flyers fan in regards to Holmgren:

http://youtu.be/b07sactDEKU?t=7s
He's just so so bad. The fact that he actually could be quoted saying that he fired Laviolette because he "had a gut feeling" is hilarious.

wampa3 10-07-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 14855962)
Just to play devil's advocate, the Hawks fired Savard only a few games into the season and haven't missed the playoffs since....but then again Berube isn't exactly Joel Quenneville.



He's just so so bad. The fact that he actually could be quoted saying that he fired Laviolette because he "had a gut feeling" is hilarious.

I don't think Paul guts could even get him a piece of the Agro-crag, let alone a Stanley Cup.

salrx95 10-07-2013 02:51 PM

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feel bad for Lavy and that he had to take the fall. Great post by Lockman, summing up Holmgren's bad job.

Isles cut him loose way too soon. He's a very good coach. Maybe he lost the room but I think it is just one those things where they can't fire all the players so the Head Coach takes the blame.

He'll land on his feet somewhere.

TMoore4075 10-07-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 14856054)
feel bad for Lavy and that he had to take the fall. Great post by Lockman, summing up Holmgren's bad job.

Isles cut him loose way too soon. He's a very good coach. Maybe he lost the room but I think it is just one those things where they can't fire all the players so the Head Coach takes the blame.

He'll land on his feet somewhere.

Next place where a coach is fired, I expect him to get the job.

lockman21 10-07-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 14855962)
Just to play devil's advocate, the Hawks fired Savard only a few games into the season and haven't missed the playoffs since....but then again Berube isn't exactly Joel Quenneville.

That was a completely different situation.

TMoore4075 10-07-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 14856096)
That was a completely different situation.

You mean cause the Hawks had talent?

I do remember when Q was brought on in the offseason and thought "well Savard's on a short leash."

fonzz41 10-07-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 14856086)
Next place where a coach is fired, I expect him to get the job.

Exactly. He'll be at the top of the list.

Roose13 10-07-2013 03:45 PM

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Lavy is a great coach, no doubt about that. And I'm shocked there hasn't been a rumor/report saying Lavy lost the locker room yet.

bonzo48280 10-07-2013 03:46 PM

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while I don't disagree with the firing because sometimes what is needed is a scenery change, Laviolette is not a bad coach by any stretch. The problem in Philly is clearly the front office and their poor decision making, and it has been for a while. Laviolette will just go somewhere else.

here's a question I've seen no one ask. Isn't Laviolette supposed to coach Team USA? Don't you have to be currently coaching in the NHL to be on the staff?

Bron Yr Aur 10-07-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 14856096)
That was a completely different situation.

Yes, it certainly was. That's why I said "just to play devil's advocate."

All I'm saying is that even though Holmgren is probably running the team into the ground, this type of move early in the season could completely just torpedo, say, an NFL team's season. In the NHL, the team's season could possibly turn around to some extent...

JRS1386 10-07-2013 06:00 PM

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Ed Snyder and Paul Holmgren need to go.

dmbetc 10-07-2013 06:30 PM

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Home opener at Staples tonight, should be a good time and I have a DD!

dmbetc 10-07-2013 06:53 PM

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Also, with it being against the Rangers, secretly I win no matter what.

monkeyman68 10-07-2013 08:05 PM

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1). I've said it all along that Holmgren is a joke (glad to see after 5 seasons and 3 games everyone else is on-board with my initial assessment)

2). The Flyers will never, ever will another Cup as long is Snider is controlling the team. The older he gets, the worse it is going to get for the fan base

3). The "gut feeling" that Holmgren had was the players complaining to him that Peter had to go. The players are the ones responsible for the timing of this.

4). Last year was the first time since '93 that I didn't go to a single home game. Not really sure if that is going to change this year......

unccrombie 10-07-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 14856318)
Home opener at Staples tonight, should be a good time and I have a DD!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 14856346)
Also, with it being against the Rangers, secretly I win no matter what.

enjoy! i'll only make it through the first period

Roose13 10-07-2013 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyman68 (Post 14856420)
1). I've said it all along that Holmgren is a joke (glad to see after 5 seasons and 3 games everyone else is on-board with my initial assessment)

2). The Flyers will never, ever will another Cup as long is Snider is controlling the team. The older he gets, the worse it is going to get for the fan base

3). The "gut feeling" that Holmgren had was the players complaining to him that Peter had to go. The players are the ones responsible for the timing of this.

4). Last year was the first time since '93 that I didn't go to a single home game. Not really sure if that is going to change this year......

Haha last year was the first year I never bought tix for the Flyers. I still went but that was under different circumstances ;)

Speaking of which, I'm covering tomorrow night's game for the paper :multi

bradshaw06 10-07-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 14855881)
As you know, Lavy fired. Here's my story with bunch of quotes including the Snider vs Eskin blow up: http://flyers.thecheckingline.com/bl...raig-berube-re

Good stuff John :thumbsup

bradshaw06 10-07-2013 10:50 PM

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these non condensed seasons are boring

Roose13 10-07-2013 10:57 PM

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Thanks Brad!

mr.MikeD 10-08-2013 12:54 AM

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So this is that deadly oilers offence we keep hearing about, 4 straight goals

fonzz41 10-08-2013 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeyman68 (Post 14856420)
1). I've said it all along that Holmgren is a joke (glad to see after 5 seasons and 3 games everyone else is on-board with my initial assessment)

I thought about trying to find a shot of your avatar wearing hipster glasses. But then I didn't. ;) :cool

dmbetc 10-08-2013 03:03 AM

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OMG Quick. That was truly embarrassing, cleared the puck into his own net, he has the worst luck.

Edit: :BANG :BANG

unccrombie 10-08-2013 08:26 AM

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nice to see richards on the stat sheet. solid road win. another tough one tonight.

TMoore4075 10-08-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 14856652)
these non condensed seasons are boring

So much less stressful though. Sure the games "don't mean as much" but last year was a little much. 20 games fewer would be ok. That takes more than a month off of the year. However, we know that won't happen cause of $$ and since they want division and conference games to mean so much, the game taken away would be from the other conference and I don't want that. I like that every plays everyone else twice a year now.

swordo84 10-08-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mr.MikeD (Post 14856814)
So this is that deadly oilers offence we keep hearing about, 4 straight goals

I went to bed after the 2nd when they were down 3-0, imagine my surprise this morning. Glad they found a way to dig deep and win a game, especially under such circumstances. This should be huge for their confidence moving forward. Now, if we could only get a half-decent goaltending performance...

aclark0622 10-08-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 14856652)
these non condensed seasons are boring

seriously who has the attention span for all this stuff :goat

dmbetc 10-08-2013 08:22 PM

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Bernier looks so good. Picked up right where he left off.

Meanwhile, Flyers have some spunk back. And Thomas is hurt! Hahahaha

dduncan6er 10-08-2013 08:53 PM

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Why do people hate Tim Thomas? I don't get it.

JRS1386 10-08-2013 08:59 PM

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Political stuff?

gonz085 10-08-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 14856999)
I went to bed after the 2nd when they were down 3-0, imagine my surprise this morning. Glad they found a way to dig deep and win a game, especially under such circumstances. This should be huge for their confidence moving forward. Now, if we could only get a half-decent goaltending performance...

It was awesome to see. I'm excited for this season (though I still have a sneaky suspicion they will let us down again). Dubnyk has gotta step up though. He's looked absolutely horrid. LaBarbera scares me too.


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