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~Crashintome89~ 04-18-2012 11:25 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 13538622)
dont give me false hope matt.

You guys have the two best players in the game today. If there is a team that can come back from 0-3, its...

wait, you're not a Canucks fan?

Sorry about that.

Dramageek 04-18-2012 11:26 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Pens have been streaky this year. Six game losing streak followed up by an 8 game winning streak. If the defense solidifies just a little bit more, and MAF hits a groove, it could be interesting.

I am reminded of something former Penguin Phil Borque (aka the old 29er) says when the Pens are close to winning a series: When you have your foot on the snake, you have to cut its head off before it bites you.

Flyers missed their first chance. Still have three more though (though if this actually goes to seven, which I still doubt it will, then the Flyers are fucked).

Dramageek 04-18-2012 11:27 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s0628711 (Post 13538620)
:lol where is roose13? His goalies in the fantasy playoff are bryz and fleury...

:lol:lol:lol

See my post from the previous page: 45 goals in 4 games!!

~Crashintome89~ 04-18-2012 11:28 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
The two day break killed the Flyers and allowed the Pens to refocus.

JRS1386 04-18-2012 11:29 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 13538638)
You guys have the two best players in the game today. If there is a team that can come back from 0-3, its...

wait, you're not a Canucks fan?

Sorry about that.

:lol :lol :lol

lockman21 04-18-2012 11:30 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
No way! Hank let that thing go?!

BotheLaneFan 04-18-2012 11:30 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CCCCCCCCCCCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD DDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Fucking sweet.

thechad90000 04-18-2012 11:30 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Great goal in OT by Ottawa

bradshaw06 04-18-2012 11:30 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
ottawa wins

s0628711 04-18-2012 11:30 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Fffffuccck.

dmbetc 04-18-2012 11:30 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Fuck me.

unccrombie 04-18-2012 11:32 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Can't stand Canada

DMBzilla 04-18-2012 11:32 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Fuck yeah, Sens! At least tonight wasn't totally terrible.

GoLdpHiShDMB 04-18-2012 11:32 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wampa3 (Post 13538591)
Stevie Wonder is named Stephen...racist

is it Stephen or Steven...? jw

BotheLaneFan 04-18-2012 11:33 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unccrombie (Post 13538683)
Can't stand Canada

Don't h8 bro.

s0628711 04-18-2012 11:34 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Totally screened Hank. He never saw the thing til it was on him already.

dmbetc 04-18-2012 11:34 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Well, go Kings.

GoLdpHiShDMB 04-18-2012 11:35 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
lets go mike richardssssssss

thedak 04-18-2012 11:35 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13538585)
Alright boys, let's just talk about hockey. Let's keep the personal threats to a minimum.

No kidding...

unccrombie 04-18-2012 11:36 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BotheBJfan (Post 13538687)
Don't h8 bro.

I remember my first beer

lockman21 04-18-2012 11:37 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
They always say that 4th win is the hardest...doubt the Kings do it either.

lockman21 04-18-2012 11:45 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
:lol The Pens/Flyers game ends and this thread goes DEAD quiet.

lockman21 04-18-2012 11:45 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Kopitar! Kings!

bradshaw06 04-18-2012 11:46 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
very nice goal by kopitar

DMBCubs25 04-18-2012 11:47 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Cue the pitchforks!

Dramageek 04-18-2012 11:53 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Board up your windows, Vancouver businesses!

dmbetc 04-18-2012 11:53 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quick goes down so low.

kev87lads 04-19-2012 12:01 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
^ 2-2 now. Fix that sig!

lockman21 04-19-2012 12:02 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
The Kings dominated that period.

~Crashintome89~ 04-19-2012 12:07 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Grossmann might have a concussion.

Roose13 04-19-2012 12:19 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Saw that. Fuuuuuuuuck

BotheLaneFan 04-19-2012 12:25 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unccrombie (Post 13538717)
I remember my first beer

I've never had one.

dmbetc 04-19-2012 12:44 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
H. Sedin big elbow to Browns head. We'll see if it'll get looked at, no penalty called.

DMBCubs25 04-19-2012 12:46 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
He's a star player he will get a miniscule fine at best.

Bron Yr Aur 04-19-2012 12:48 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 13538921)
Grossmann might have a concussion.

Ouch. And you know Rinaldo is probably gone for the rest of this series too....not a good night for the Flyers. Good thing they just need 1 win.

DMBstandUP1984 04-19-2012 01:05 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
did the Penguins spend the whole game on the power play? looked like it

GoLdpHiShDMB 04-19-2012 01:22 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
penaltyyyy shotttt!!!!!

mr.MikeD 04-19-2012 01:23 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Vancouver looks like Vancouver tonight

lockman21 04-19-2012 01:24 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
It's situations like this that make me hate the penalty shot. If you don't convert on the shot, you should get the 2 minutes.

dmbetc 04-19-2012 01:25 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Damn you Dustin. I'm gonna smack you, literally.

DMBCubs25 04-19-2012 01:48 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Well this means that there will be 3 straight years of Vancouver's season ending in hilarious fashion at Rogers Arena!

Bron Yr Aur 04-19-2012 01:53 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13539216)
It's situations like this that make me hate the penalty shot. If you don't convert on the shot, you should get the 2 minutes.

Nah....league average conversion rate penalty shots/SO's is something like ~33%. That's certainly a non-negligible improvement in your chances over the best PP's (~25%) or the average PP (less than 20%)....

Giving them both is too much.

lockman21 04-19-2012 02:02 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 13539293)
Nah....league average conversion rate penalty shots/SO's is something like ~33%. That's certainly a non-negligible improvement in your chances over the best PP's (~25%) or the average PP (less than 20%)....

Giving them both is too much.

It just changes the dynamic of the game, IMO. Had the Kings got the 2 minutes instead of the PS, would that game have gone 3-1? It sucks to have your guy tripped and go right back to the PK.

Bron Yr Aur 04-19-2012 02:30 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13539305)
It just changes the dynamic of the game, IMO. Had the Kings got the 2 minutes instead of the PS, would that game have gone 3-1? It sucks to have your guy tripped and go right back to the PK.

Ah, yeah I didn't see it. But I suppose if you are already on the penalty kill then yeah it could be really important to get the 2-min PP and get off the PK.

bartender_man 04-19-2012 02:41 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.MikeD (Post 13539213)
Vancouver looks like Vancouver tonight

No way they win the series though. L.A in 6.

monkeyman68 04-19-2012 02:47 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
1). Tonight's game was pretty tough to watch

2). Only thing worse than the Flyers game might have been the backread for this thread. WTF happened in here?

3). I'm glad that this game ended the way it did. The Flyers needed a very loud wake-up call. While it is easy to blame a lot of the problems on Brzy (who has been terrible during the last two games), the Flyers D and the Flyers PK have looked awful. Let's be honest, the Flyers aren't going to get to the SCF without playing the Bruins and/or the Rags. I don't see the Flyers getting past either one of those teams if they continue to play defense like this. Hopefully this game allows the team to re-focus their attention to the defensive aspect of their game.

I think it is kinda funny how a lot of Flyers fans seem to be a little rattled at this point. Did anyone think that the Flyers were going to sweep this series when the playoffs started? The Flyers have shown (all season/post season) that they can consistently beat the Pens. The only way that the Flyers loose this series if they get AHL level goaltending for the next 3 games. I just don't see that happening.....

JRS1386 04-19-2012 07:13 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyman68 (Post 13539377)
1). Tonight's game was pretty tough to watch

2). Only thing worse than the Flyers game might have been the backread for this thread. WTF happened in here?

3). I'm glad that this game ended the way it did. The Flyers needed a very loud wake-up call. While it is easy to blame a lot of the problems on Brzy (who has been terrible during the last two games), the Flyers D and the Flyers PK have looked awful. Let's be honest, the Flyers aren't going to get to the SCF without playing the Bruins and/or the Rags. I don't see the Flyers getting past either one of those teams if they continue to play defense like this. Hopefully this game allows the team to re-focus their attention to the defensive aspect of their game.

I think it is kinda funny how a lot of Flyers fans seem to be a little rattled at this point. Did anyone think that the Flyers were going to sweep this series when the playoffs started? The Flyers have shown (all season/post season) that they can consistently beat the Pens. The only way that the Flyers loose this series if they get AHL level goaltending for the next 3 games. I just don't see that happening.....

I hate this argument. Of course no one thought the Flyers would sweep when the series begin, but we also did not know that they would be up 3-0 nor that they would score 20 goals in the first three games when the playoffs started. After the first puck is dropped you can throw what you thought was going to drop right out the window because it rarely goes like expected in the playoffs. Because its the Cup.

dmbetc 04-19-2012 09:27 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
None of the games went as I wanted last night. Canucks are a different team when both sisters are playing, that's for sure.

Kings still win it though.

TMoore4075 04-19-2012 09:32 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
So I'm moving to offseason stuff for a second with obvious reasons...Luongo. Starting to think Schneider is their guy now. A lot of media types out there are suggesting this as well. He would be difficult to move but anyone who needs a goalie would be happy even with a guy who hasn't done anything in the postseason but once. Schneider will be cheaper regardless of what he gets in a new contract. Thoughts??

swordo84 04-19-2012 09:36 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unccrombie (Post 13538683)
Can't stand Canada


Don't worry, we don't like the Sens either.

~Crashintome89~ 04-19-2012 09:40 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Wake-up call was needed. Flyers get back on track on Friday. This team is different from any of the Richards era teams.

dduncan6er 04-19-2012 09:42 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13539499)
So I'm moving to offseason stuff for a second with obvious reasons...Luongo. Starting to think Schneider is their guy now. A lot of media types out there are suggesting this as well. He would be difficult to move but anyone who needs a goalie would be happy even with a guy who hasn't done anything in the postseason but once. Schneider will be cheaper regardless of what he gets in a new contract. Thoughts??

The issue I think they'll run into is finding someone to take on Luongo's contract.

seekupig 04-19-2012 09:44 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Can anyone tell my why Cooke got kicked out last night? Was at a party and couldn't hear the explanation on tv. Is getting knocked on your ass repeatedly and not retaliating a penalty in hockey?

~Crashintome89~ 04-19-2012 09:47 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seekupig (Post 13539520)
Can anyone tell my why Cooke got kicked out last night? Was at a party and couldn't hear the explanation on tv. Is getting knocked on your ass repeatedly and not retaliating a penalty in hockey?

When your Matt Cooke, yes it is.

The refs were just being overcautious. They were told by the league to call pretty much everything and they weren't taking any chances with the score being 10-3.

dduncan6er 04-19-2012 09:47 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
They were going to toss everyone out of that game that was involved in anything whether they were the agressor or not. The last thing those refs wanted was a repeat of game 3.

seekupig 04-19-2012 09:50 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 13539526)
When your Matt Cooke, yes it is.

The refs were just being overcautious. They were told by the league to call pretty much everything and they weren't taking any chances with the score being 10-3.

so basically they were doing him a favor by taking him out of the situation? makes sense i guess.... thanks for the explanation. :thumbsup

TMoore4075 04-19-2012 09:55 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Yeah same with Rinaldo. That crap on Sunday he would have been back out there. They let him get ready for the plane early.

dduncan6er 04-19-2012 09:57 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Just a thought do the Leafs have the cap room to take on Luongo? That would be all kinds of awesome.

TMoore4075 04-19-2012 09:58 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13539517)
The issue I think they'll run into is finding someone to take on Luongo's contract.

Yeah that'll be the biggest thing. I think it's time for both to part if they can. He's going to be the scapegoat forever now after the Finals last year. He can almost do nothing right. So it would be best for him to get a fresh start and for Vancouver to move on. A lot easier when you have someone like Schneider.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13539543)
Just a thought do the Leafs have the cap room to take on Luongo? That would be all kinds of awesome.

No. That 13th place team in the East has 56mil committed to next year. They are one of the teams most desperately in need of a goalie but if Vancouver was tough what will TO be like on him?

seekupig 04-19-2012 09:59 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13539540)
Yeah same with Rinaldo. That crap on Sunday he would have been back out there. They let him get ready for the plane early.


I guess in my limited hockey watching so far, I haven't really seen NHL officials do something that makes so much sense so it left me confused. :lol

dduncan6er 04-19-2012 10:11 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13539546)
Yeah that'll be the biggest thing. I think it's time for both to part if they can. He's going to be the scapegoat forever now after the Finals last year. He can almost do nothing right. So it would be best for him to get a fresh start and for Vancouver to move on. A lot easier when you have someone like Schneider.



No. That 13th place team in the East has 56mil committed to next year. They are one of the teams most desperately in need of a goalie but if Vancouver was tough what will TO be like on him?

The reason I'd love to see him in Toronto is to see him try to handle that pressure. It'd be entertaining to say the least.

bonzo48280 04-19-2012 10:28 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I wonder how the NHL their refs are going to bone the Hawks tonight. Should be fun to watch.

dduncan6er 04-19-2012 10:36 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Alzner came out yesterday and said he wasn't calling a Lucic a cry baby at the end of game 3 and said he definitely doesn't want to fight him. Pretty funny stuff. Caps dressing Erskine and I'm sure he'll be chasing Lucic around trying to get him to drop em. I really hope Lucic doesn't waste 5 minutes on him.

lockman21 04-19-2012 10:55 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13539499)
So I'm moving to offseason stuff for a second with obvious reasons...Luongo. Starting to think Schneider is their guy now. A lot of media types out there are suggesting this as well. He would be difficult to move but anyone who needs a goalie would be happy even with a guy who hasn't done anything in the postseason but once. Schneider will be cheaper regardless of what he gets in a new contract. Thoughts??

Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13539517)
The issue I think they'll run into is finding someone to take on Luongo's contract.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13539546)
Yeah that'll be the biggest thing. I think it's time for both to part if they can. He's going to be the scapegoat forever now after the Finals last year. He can almost do nothing right. So it would be best for him to get a fresh start and for Vancouver to move on. A lot easier when you have someone like Schneider.

No. That 13th place team in the East has 56mil committed to next year. They are one of the teams most desperately in need of a goalie but if Vancouver was tough what will TO be like on him?

There are teams that need a goaltender that have the cap room, and one of them isn't the Leafs. It all depends on this CBA too. Vancouver might get REALLY lucky depending on the new CBA.

Assuming not much changes on that front, I can see teams like the Jets (who need to resign Evander Kane, Kyle Wellwood and Tanner Glass...but other than that have no real offseason commitments and no goaltenders under contract), Panthers (Tallon has no problem with big contracts and come on...Theodore isn't the answer there), Oil if they can dump Khabibulin somehow, Lightning, etc.

There would be places to move him, the answer just becomes how desperate are those teams for a goaltender and how much does Vancouver ask in return? They'd have to resign Schneider obviously, who I'm guessing would command $3-3.5. They'd have about $3 million to play with then to get in return (assuming the cap doesn't go up or down with the new CBA)...who knows. It'll be a mess, but I think Luongo is done there, yes.

Mateo2k 04-19-2012 10:55 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13539635)
Alzner came out yesterday and said he wasn't calling a Lucic a cry baby at the end of game 3 and said he definitely doesn't want to fight him. Pretty funny stuff. Caps dressing Erskine and I'm sure he'll be chasing Lucic around trying to get him to drop em. I really hope Lucic doesn't waste 5 minutes on him.

I believe the Erskine move is more of method to correct faults in defense in game 3, as opposed to "chasing Lucic." That said, if Lucic wants to continue to be a goon, Erskine is not one to step down.

fonzz41 04-19-2012 11:03 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13539693)
There are teams that need a goaltender that have the cap room, and one of them isn't the Leafs. It all depends on this CBA too. Vancouver might get REALLY lucky depending on the new CBA.

Assuming not much changes on that front, I can see teams like the Jets (who need to resign Evander Kane, Kyle Wellwood and Tanner Glass...but other than that have no real offseason commitments and no goaltenders under contract), Panthers (Tallon has no problem with big contracts and come on...Theodore isn't the answer there), Oil if they can dump Khabibulin somehow, Lightning, etc.

There would be places to move him, the answer just becomes how desperate are those teams for a goaltender and how much does Vancouver ask in return? They'd have to resign Schneider obviously, who I'm guessing would command $3-3.5. They'd have about $3 million to play with then to get in return (assuming the cap doesn't go up or down with the new CBA)...who knows. It'll be a mess, but I think Luongo is done there, yes.

I think another question - albeit a crazy one - that also needs to be considered is: If the Canucks CAN'T move Luongo because of his contract, do they attempt to move Schneider for a good return? You have to imagine a team like Tampa would be licking their chops for someone like him.

That being said, if I'm the Canucks I would definitely want Luongo over Schneider at this point. But all sides need to be considered.

TMoore4075 04-19-2012 11:04 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13539693)
There are teams that need a goaltender that have the cap room, and one of them isn't the Leafs. It all depends on this CBA too. Vancouver might get REALLY lucky depending on the new CBA.

Assuming not much changes on that front, I can see teams like the Jets (who need to resign Evander Kane, Kyle Wellwood and Tanner Glass...but other than that have no real offseason commitments and no goaltenders under contract), Panthers (Tallon has no problem with big contracts and come on...Theodore isn't the answer there), Oil if they can dump Khabibulin somehow, Lightning, etc.

There would be places to move him, the answer just becomes how desperate are those teams for a goaltender and how much does Vancouver ask in return? They'd have to resign Schneider obviously, who I'm guessing would command $3-3.5. They'd have about $3 million to play with then to get in return (assuming the cap doesn't go up or down with the new CBA)...who knows. It'll be a mess, but I think Luongo is done there, yes.

The problem is his NTC. Would he go to Edmonton or Winnipeg? Florida he might go back to. A better situation there than when he left. Plus he could really take that team to the next level. Cup? No I don't think so not with the team that's there but he could make them a playoff team on a regular basis. Not just cause they are in a crappy division.

dduncan6er 04-19-2012 11:08 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mateo2k (Post 13539694)
I believe the Erskine move is more of method to correct faults in defense in game 3, as opposed to "chasing Lucic." That said, if Lucic wants to continue to be a goon, Erskine is not one to step down.

Lucic was far from a goon last game. But if Caps fans want to believe what their moron of a head coach and local media say more power to them. And I'm not sure putting in a guy that played 26 regular season games and was a healthy scratch for quite a few games is really a move to sure up the defense.

lockman21 04-19-2012 11:12 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 13539717)
I think another question - albeit a crazy one - that also needs to be considered is: If the Canucks CAN'T move Luongo because of his contract, do they attempt to move Schneider for a good return? You have to imagine a team like Tampa would be licking their chops for someone like him.

That being said, if I'm the Canucks I would definitely want Luongo over Schneider at this point. But all sides need to be considered.

I think they would move Schneider. There's no chance they retain both after this postseason. They don't really have much cap space, and can't afford to waste about $9-$10 million on 2 goaltenders. He's a RFA, so he'll sign something somewhere that gets him paid. The Canucks would be stupid to not trade his negotiating rights somewhere. If they wait, all that's going to happen is they get presented an offer sheet that they can't match.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13539719)
The problem is his NTC. Would he go to Edmonton or Winnipeg? Florida he might go back to. A better situation there than when he left. Plus he could really take that team to the next level. Cup? No I don't think so not with the team that's there but he could make them a playoff team on a regular basis. Not just cause they are in a crappy division.

Personally, I think he'd welcome being traded somewhere that he isn't under such a fine microscope. Florida seems like a likely destination. How about the Devils? Strange thought, but Brodeur's contract is finally up. I know they have a lot of priorities other than that (*cough* Parise *cough*), but they only have $22 million committed to next season (granted they don't really have anything close to a team either but, whatever :lol )

I think they more likely scenario is keeping Luongo and trading Schneider's negotiating rights for a draft pick considering Luongo's NTC and cap hit/contract length, but now that Schneider is getting starts in the playoffs (and won a game), who knows.

UCFish 04-19-2012 11:16 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 13539612)
I wonder how the NHL their refs are going to bone the Hawks tonight. Should be fun to watch.

They will find a way....no doubt in my mind.

rlpi100 04-19-2012 11:17 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
HUGE game tonight! I cant wait

TMoore4075 04-19-2012 11:20 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13539735)
Personally, I think he'd welcome being traded somewhere that he isn't under such a fine microscope. Florida seems like a likely destination. How about the Devils? Strange thought, but Brodeur's contract is finally up. I know they have a lot of priorities other than that (*cough* Parise *cough*), but they only have $22 million committed to next season (granted they don't really have anything close to a team either but, whatever :lol )

I think they more likely scenario is keeping Luongo and trading Schneider's negotiating rights for a draft pick considering Luongo's NTC and cap hit/contract length, but now that Schneider is getting starts in the playoffs (and won a game), who knows.

The winning games thing is what got me. Even if they lose the series what if he gets it to 6 or 7 games? Hard to sell that to your fan base if you trade him. Had they been swept and even if he played well it's not as much of thing I don't think.

lockman21 04-19-2012 11:27 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13539761)
The winning games thing is what got me. Even if they lose the series what if he gets it to 6 or 7 games? Hard to sell that to your fan base if you trade him. Had they been swept and even if he played well it's not as much of thing I don't think.

Yeah...but there's only so much you can do? I mean, they are losing 6 forwards and 3 defenseman, as well as their backup goaltender, and they still only have $9 million in cap space (again, assuming the cap doesn't move). If the cap goes down, they are even more screwed.

Of those 10 contracts that expire, 6 are near the minimum (between $525,000-$700,000). They are going to have a hard enough time fielding players to be able to dress a team, let alone be able to take on a new contract in exchange for Luongo.

Trading Luongo for them, at this point, they couldn't get anywhere near fair value. No where near. It'd have to be draft picks, and a lot of them. What team wants to do that? Vancouver can't afford to take on a decent players contract, and no team is going to sell their future in draft picks to take on a notorious head case and his ridiculous contract. I just don't see it happening the more I look at it.

I don't know what they are doing over there, but certainly they aren't thinking about their future. Every game Schneider starts makes it harder and harder to trade Luongo, but at the same time makes it seem like they need to trade him more. Maybe they are selling Schneider's stock, I don't know. But the more I look at it, the less likely it seems Luongo gets moved.

~Crashintome89~ 04-19-2012 11:55 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I don't know what was worse--the game last night or this thread.

lockman21 04-19-2012 12:06 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Speaking of Luongo:

http://i.imgur.com/bZ6IU.jpg

DMBzilla 04-19-2012 12:25 PM

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Why do people think Flyers fans are rattled? A 3-1 series lead is nothing to be concerned about yet.

If I were a Rangers fan, I'd be rattled. :lol

dduncan6er 04-19-2012 12:30 PM

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I think the Flyers will still take the series, but you can't say that your $7 million goalie getting lit up once again isn't a major cause for concern. Especially considering his post season struggles in the past.

TMoore4075 04-19-2012 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13539984)
I think the Flyers will still take the series, but you can't say that your $7 million goalie getting lit up once again isn't a major cause for concern. Especially considering his post season struggles in the past.

Exactly.

Dramageek 04-19-2012 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DMBzilla (Post 13539963)
Why do people think Flyers fans are rattled? A 3-1 series lead is nothing to be concerned about yet.

If I were a Rangers fan, I'd be rattled. :lol

Flyers fans have no reason to be rattled currently. But get in to Round 2 against a team that can actually play defense and tend the goal, there will be some serious rattling noises coming out of Philly. Bryzgalov's craptacular play is overshadowed only by Fleury's even more craptacular play.

Agree that Rangers fans should be rattled.

lockman21 04-19-2012 12:37 PM

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I will be at the UC tonight. Get the fuck up.

dduncan6er 04-19-2012 12:40 PM

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I'd love to see the Sens knock off the Rangers.

rlpi100 04-19-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13540025)
I will be at the UC tonight. Get the fuck up.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

unccrombie 04-19-2012 01:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 13540022)
Flyers fans have no reason to be rattled currently. But get in to Round 2 against a team that can actually play defense and tend the goal, there will be some serious rattling noises coming out of Philly. Bryzgalov's craptacular play is overshadowed only by Fleury's even more craptacular play.

Agree that Rangers fans should be rattled.

what has me :rattle is that we let them back in to the game. i'm not confident in this team in OT. i think we've lost our last 7 OT games.

dmbmuskie 04-19-2012 01:21 PM

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Rangers are the better team. Flyers are not. That's the difference.

Bron Yr Aur 04-19-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13539540)
Yeah same with Rinaldo. That crap on Sunday he would have been back out there. They let him get ready for the plane early.

Rinaldo needs a suspension for the bullshit he pulled last night. A kinda/sorta boarding, followed by the elbow to the back of the head, followed by a cross-check and a punch to the face. He got his moneys worth, but he needs to miss a couple of games.

dmbmuskie 04-19-2012 01:34 PM

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I don't think Rinaldo should be suspended.

aclark0622 04-19-2012 01:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13539984)
I think the Flyers will still take the series, but you can't say that your $7 million goalie getting lit up once again isn't a major cause for concern. Especially considering his post season struggles in the past.

And it only gets worse from there. Good luck with putting Bryz up against, say, Thomas, Lundquist, or Quick.

DMBzilla 04-19-2012 01:51 PM

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Report from Flyers practice today...

- Bryz left the ice early
- JVR practiced and believes he can play Friday
- Michael Leighton suited up and practiced with the team :eek

~Crashintome89~ 04-19-2012 01:57 PM

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Leighton's gonna Leight.

dmbmuskie 04-19-2012 02:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DMBzilla (Post 13540377)
Report from Flyers practice today...

- Bryz left the ice early
- JVR practiced and believes he can play Friday
- Michael Leighton suited up and practiced with the team :eek

They should just start making golf reservations now.

lockman21 04-19-2012 02:11 PM

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Ratings continue to soar through the roof. Ridiculous. Wonder if it's all the violence? I hope not.

Beals012 04-19-2012 02:13 PM

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Whew! Pens finally stepped up! :)

seekupig 04-19-2012 02:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DMBzilla (Post 13540377)
Report from Flyers practice today...

- Bryz left the ice early

that's two days in a row. :D

bonzo48280 04-19-2012 02:29 PM

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just win tonight, bastards

fonzz41 04-19-2012 02:37 PM

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Michael Leighton to the rescue.

Roose13 04-19-2012 02:46 PM

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I doubt Leighton is starting tomorrow. But I wouldn't be shocked if he's the back up over Bob, who just can't handle playoff hockey.

Dramageek 04-19-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 13540730)
I doubt Leighton is starting tomorrow. But I wouldn't be shocked if he's the back up over Bob, who just can't handle playoff hockey.

Except for last night, Bob has had success against Pittsburgh. And last night he was kind of put in front of a tsunami. I wouldn't be surprised to see him start Friday.

Roose13 04-19-2012 02:55 PM

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Playoffs are a different animal. Anything before that doesn't really matter. Bob is shaky in the playoffs.

lockman21 04-19-2012 02:57 PM

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Flyers goaltending issues. Always hilarious :lol

TMoore4075 04-19-2012 03:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13540798)
Flyers goaltending issues. Always hilarious :lol

I've said it before but I always think back to Roenick not signing with the Wings in 01 because he felt Philly had strong goaltending. lol Not only were Flyers on their 6th starting goalie in 5 years at the time, just a few days later the Wings traded for Hasek.


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