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Although Shero said last Thursday that he intended to give Kennedy a qualifying offer, he changed his mind because he did not want to face the possibility of waiting until Kennedy had an arbitration hearing in a month or so to find out what he would paid.

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Right but in the meantime you still "own" TK. So if your free agent ventures fail, you still have that option to sign a guy who potted 20 and will get you between 15 and 20 this year. Jagr can't be our only option. It's bold letting TK out on a leash like that, especially with teams needing to spend to the cap floor.

If I'm a team that needs a contract to meet the floor, I say, "hey TK put up 20 last year, tends to work hard most shifts, why not throw $2.5M and a two year deal his way."

Refusing to take him to arbitration at this point just seems illogical. I mean Shero could pull a deal off that renders this moot, but there isn't a guy out there that I want.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Pens target Brook Laich. He made just over $2M last year. In fact, in a perfect world, they let TK go and sign him and Jagr. I think its doable under the Pens' cap situation. And leaves room for Rupp or Asham to resign to bring the grit.

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Laich is easily gonna command $4.5 mil since he is the 2nd best free agent on the market. I doubt the Pens would do that with all the money they have invested in centers, but I could be wrong.

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CSN had a list of people they think the Hawks should sign.

Dan Carcillo was on that list.

I will never watch CSN talk shows again.

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I know Kennedy played great last year, but the Pens roster is full of guys who could chip in 15. Jagr could be a total bust, or he could get 30 and really help on the PP. If he fails you just plug another of the guys capable of scoring 15 into his place and move on.

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:lol :lol :lol :lol

Sassone asked what the Hawks should do about Carcillo? I tweeted him "I dont want him anywhere near the Hawks" but what I really meant was "are you serious?"

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If you miss a few hours in this thread you're burried :lol

Everyone here writes novels

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Eh if what he said was true and he kept his mouth shut so he didn't regret saying something stupid then ok. Still should have talked to the Jackets a little sooner. But I can't blame him for being pissed. You sign an 11 year deal thinking you are staying put and your gm says don't believe the rumors and you get traded anyways. If the Jackets never really get better you are stuck in purgatory for 11 years.
During the playoffs I usually just go to the last page. Will back read only if needed. It would monopolize my whole morning.

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Just bought season tickets to the Blue Jackets - any of you guys want to see your team play in Columbus let me know

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I have more of a problem with him not saying a word to the Jackets, then saying something to the media. Having them fly out to re-assure you is unneeded and puts a target on your back.

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I'll give you that. I'm sure he'll get over it. I know they're not the Flyers but got a good young goalie, a great winger to play with and some other decent forwards there so there's a starting point.

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Also, it's not like he's a starving kid in Africa. The dude is making 5 mil a year for the next 11 years, I think he'll be just fine. Hockey players should especially know the old adage, if Wayne Gretzky can get traded--anyone can. At the end of the day, the NHL is a business and sometimes businesses have to make tough decisions. The world is not going to end for Jeff Carter.

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Unfortunately with the stupid "unbalanced" schedule, the Flyers don't even play in Columbus this season....

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Really? I thought everyone was here at least once. Oh well

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No it rotates. Everyone plays every team at least once but not a home and home. It goes by division. So like the Wings this year play the SE teams at home this year and the Atlantic and NE teams on the road. But last year the Wings played the SE teams on the road and the Atlantic and NE at home.

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Oh alright I see - seems like the Sabres have played here every season since I've been out here though - guess I was just lucky with that.

Well I know the Wings will be here a few times :thumbsup

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Eh only 3 times. LOL Was a nice trip last year for me. Well a win helps.

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Supposedly Kopecky has signed with the Panthers. I only saw one person tweeting it so we'll see.

Also didn't see it mentioned but Hulsizer is no longer in on the bidding of the Coyotes. Here we go again... I was confident they were staying now I'm not sure. Houston, KC, Southern Ontario, Quebec City? Who's got he highest bidder?

And Laich is back in Washington so take him off the table. 6 years and $27mil so 4.5mil per.

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Def won't be Ontario. maybe QC but now the govt has put a hold on the federal funding.

Anyone hear anythin about the Stamkos rumours to Philly?

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http://lejournaldemontreal.canoe.ca/...28-063100.html
I know it's in French but I got it translated and the article says Chara has to go meet with Montreal police about that Paccioretty incident. This whole situation is an absolute joke I can't believe they're still going at this. He should bring the cup with him to the police station. :lol

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Yeah QC needs the arena. Or at least being built and do a year or two in the old barn but I don't know if the NHL would even do that. IMO PHX is done. We'll see though.

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Ive always thought that Milwaulkee should have a team - are they ever rumored?

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Of all the rumors I've seen over the last few months I haven't seen them ever mentioned. If Hamilton is in the territory of the Leafs Milwaukee is in the territory of the Hawks.

Cities listed in the past have been Quebec (needs arena though), Southern Ontario (seems unlikely though), KC (has arena but no owner), Houston, Las Vegas (won't happen anytime soon. move a team from one desert to another?) and finally the Northwest Seattle/Portland. Seattle doesn't have the arena but appears to have a group interested. Portland has the building the owners there haven't been rumored to be interested though.

Imagine the realignment hell if the Coyotes went East.

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Here's a translation of the article if anyone's interested.
http://translate.google.com/translat...%26prmd%3Divns

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Sorry to all of you non-Caps fans coveting Laich:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=5...d-rr-headlines

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Dupuis is signed, 2 years at 1.5mil per.

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God damn it... :twak

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While some of the guys getting off the market now makes July 1st suck I like that players are sticking around.

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http://twitter.com/#!/LukeLapinski/s...48671130812416

LOL

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The whole situation is laughable! A huge :thumbsup to the bolded.

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Does Malkin's recent Tweet (as reported by PTI, although I can't find a fucking link anywhere) bother any Pens fans? Apparently he tweeted something along the lines of now that he's won a cup he's more excited to try and win a gold medal in Sochi in 2014 than another cup? I don't have the exact quote and I was sorta half asleep watching PTI yesterday but that is cause for some concern don't you think? You have a player who can easily become invisible when he wants to (part of the Russian genome if you ask me) saying that another Stanley Cup isn't his priority. From now until 2014 is he going to pedal to make sure he doesn't jeopardize this chance (especially after his injury this year) or is he as motivated as he should be? I don't know. I'm not to thrilled to hear that as a Pens fan...

Edit: this might be something since I haven't heard much about it and the Canadian media only focus on hockey stories that are nothing...

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Malkin doesnt have a twitter.

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can malkin even say twitter or tweet?

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Oh. Well maybe it was a comment he made to the Russian media... Again, I was half asleep but I do know they discussed this issue on PTI. Someone must have watched PTI yesterday... Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

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lol, exactly. i doubt he even knows how to write in english.

the only pens with twitters are tangradi, talbot, rupp and kennedy.

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im not sure i'd trust what pti has to say on anything hockey related.

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So what if it's true about Malkin? We all know Ovechkin is probably thinking the same thing too.

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I'm sure it's true for lots of players. But if you have a franchise player who is making 8.7 mil per and has stated that a Cup isn't a priority for him, isn't that cause for concern as a GM? I don't generally trust anything PTI says about hockey but they had to get that information from somewhere, so there is probably some truth to the rumor...

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At the end of the day it doesn't matter because Canada will win gold again in 2014 anyway. He can plan for it all he wants, it isn't going to happen. My guess is Russia won't even medal (again)

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This is true. We Canadians can have 2 priorities. At least when it comes to hockey!

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I wouldn't be so sure about that.

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The first series with Detroit there were rumors about Malkin saying he would rather win for Russia than win a Cup. The guy barely spoke English then so I didn't put a lot of stock into it.

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I dont have a big problem with it. It's like if I told my girl friend that I'd rather have sex with Brooklyn Decker than her. That doesn't mean I don't want to have sex with her - and she shouldn't break up with me for it

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Is stamkos a flyer yet?

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OMGSS should be the new tag.

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Wow. Brooks Laich. What a contract. Free agency is going to be a cluster fuck.

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I like the DuPuis deal. I'm wondering if Shero can pull a rabbit out of his hat, and get TK at a similar price. IMO, Dupper is more important to the teams cup chances than Kennedy.

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If the Caps paid a guy like Laich what they did, TK could get at least $3m on the open market.

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Good analogy but you're looking at it from Malkin's perspective. What if your girlfriend was saying she would rather have sex with People magazine's sexiest man alive Ryan Reynolds than you, and in 3 years she was going to go stay at his house for 2 weeks. Now, there is a chance that to be sure she can rock Van Wilder's world, she's not going to give it her all with you until then to ensure her snatch is in good working order for her 2 weeks with the Green Lantern. Would you still feel the same way?

I apologize in advance for referencing your girlfriend's vag.

Edit: Best 1000th post ever.

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If Malkin plays like he did on the Cup run he can say whatever he wants.

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:lol :lol no its quite alright - you make an excellent point - I'll have to consider this

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I can't believe Laich got that much money and that many years.

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Gonna be a lot of overpayments come Friday...

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Yeah, but you're missing a very big proponent to all of this and that is:

You have a bigger penis than Ryan Reynolds.

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Thanks bro, that means a lot

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Too late, I already am.

You can't really believe the Tampa won't match any offer sheet (provided they don't get him re-signed by the 1st)

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It's been 2 years since that so I think that's a big IF right now.
They will match anything. Only a handful of teams can really put for a deal to get him signed and still fill out a 23-man roster. I mean the only deal they wouldn't match would have to be over $9mil per. At $9mil TB could probably still make it work. They have almost $22mil in cap space to sign 7-8 players.

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Was in AC with no real interwebz....

Very interesting to see Campbell got moved. Thought that was unmovable.

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Maybe I just have my homer glasses again, but I expect Malkin to be a monster this year. How he attacked his rehab made me really believe that he's going to work his ass off to get back into the best player in the world argument.

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Yeah so did I but it was Tallon getting him back and because the cap floor keeps going up teams need money to get to the floor so it was the perfect scenario for the Hawks.

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Tampa matches any Stamkos offer, no question. Com'on people.

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It'd be nice to see Pitt have their full team healthy with Sid and Geno back in top form. Anyone specifically the Pens are targeting come Friday and is Rupp expected to re-sign there?

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Everything I've read has us basically keeping the status quo. I think our FA splash was last summer, and I think Shero did a great job. Martin is making a little too much money, IMO, but I think Michaelek is a little underpaid. I honestly believe we win the Cup with Malkin and Sid in the lineup, so I'm not sure why we could look to make any big changes.

I would have thought Rupp was a lock for us to keep, because he can fight and play, but it seems like he's gone.

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Would love to see the Hawks add a guy like Rupp to the 4th line. Also to the resident Flyers fans, any word on if Leino is going to re-up in Philly? I think he would be a nice addition for the Hawks, would like to see how he would play with someone like Bolland.

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Agreed. Coming off the two Cup runs and the Olympics he was suffering from too much hockey and then got injured. I'm expecting him to be a monster again.

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While Martin is overpaid, he may be one of the more responsible defensive minded d-men, we've had back there in a while. Everyone automatically assumed that he was going to replace Gonchar, but that never was the case.

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What is the word on Crosby anyways? Is he going to be back next year? Was all that retirement stuff BS?

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Yeah, also, if you actually do say this....

...you will probably be in big trouble.

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He currently participating in two-a-days, and on schedule. All that retirement was definitely BS.

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I think Martin is an upgrade over Gonch. The PP sucked when Gonch was there too.

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Yeah. I mean offensively he isn't Gonchar, but he moves the puck out of the zone better. Pens need Letang to step up and hit the net, or sticks in front of the net. Z and Martin are a great shutdown pair. I can see the Pens moving Orpik at the deadline to get a winger. We are deep defensively.

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I love our Top 4, but the bottom pair scares me. I'd love to see us add a physical guy with some puck skills, but that's probably outside the budget.

Despres could be that guy, but it seems impossible for young guys to break into this lineup.

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Belfour, Gilmour, Mark Howe, Nieuwendyk are Hall of Famers.

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Erhoff thinks he is worth more than Bieksa :ugh
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=370268

I mean, it's an alright d-man, but I think he needs to re-examine his thoughts on his own worth.

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He's not worth more than Bieksa but he'll get more than Bieksa now.

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Outside of Brad Richards, this year really is a pretty shallow FA pool considering previous years. If Ehrhoff is smart (or rather, if his agent is smart), he will milk that fact for all it's worth.

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how many tickets did you purchase? I could maybe make a trip out there for the one weekend game we have in February.

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I've got 2 - good seats though. It's always fairly easy to get more tickets as well

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well I will have to let you know down the road, I got accepted to paramedic school and I have no idea what my schedule will be like in February.

Erhoff is worth more than Bieksa right now just because Bieksa took a pay cut. Bieksa could have made some real big money, but he wants to remain a dickhead with the Vancouver Shmucks

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All this Stamkos offer sheet talk is just stupid. Unless it's a 10 year deal worth 11mil per the Lightning will match.

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Ehrhoff's rights traded to Isles foe a 4th rounder. Odd place IMO.

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Jagr has been offered a contract by Shero. Word on the street is that its a 1-year deal for something above $2 mil. Jagr has been given a deadline to make a decision by tomorrow afternoon.

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I assume you are going to the game when the Sabres visit?

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http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/...p1=Upbox_links
lololol

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Oh of course - you should go! Area around the arena is awesome - especially when the sabres are in town

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I love the aggressiveness of Garth Snow.

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They have to match anything. If not, the fans turn against them. If I'm a fan, I'm livid they couldn't get the deal done.

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I think Engo-Lovejoy start out in our bottom 4. I think that will be pretty good.

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Let's see....Bieksa played 55 and 66 games in the past two seasons, is a couple years older, who is no more than a solid 2nd-pair guy. He's got some grit and toughness, more than Ehrhoff.

Ehrhoff is much, much more of an offensive threat, and he's a pretty solid first-pairing guy. VAN would've been much better off to give Ehrhoff his money and let Bieksa go. #1/2 d-men get $5m+ in this market, with this cap. I mean, Brent Seabrook got $5.8m per from the Hawks during the season.

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Erhoff > Bieksa is you ask me. here is how I remember Bieksa, the pussy who can't take a hit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6JTOLgMyg0

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I take Bieksa over Ehrhoff any day of the week.
In other news it looks like Kaberle is going to test the market. Doesn't really break my heart.

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I agree BUT most likely he's going to test the market anyways. He would be stupid not too. Who knows what is coming with the CBA expiring you have to see whats out there.
Fans would walk away from a team they were coming back to. Pack the team up and move em if Stamkos is gone.
I read they were trying to shop his rights too.

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I've heard the Wings thrown out there a lot as a possible destination for Kaberle.

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The Jackets need to re-sign Hejda now if they want to keep him - all these D-men on the move his price keeps going up

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Yeah I've heard that too. Eh doesn't interest me. I have a feeling he'll get stupid money too.

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Yep someone is going to overpay for him and I'm very glad it's not the Bruins. I'd rather give Kampfer a shot at the bottom pair. He showed some flashes last year and he's obviously a hell of a lot cheaper.

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Nor mine - dude was a total bum.

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Kopecky got 4 years and $3mil per. LOL!!!!! Well there's gonna be a lockout next year. I can't blame FLA for doing this. They have to get to the floor which is higher than what the cap was in both the first and second year of the new cba.

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What? :BANG

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The league wouldn't be dumb enough to lockout, but the CBA will change drastically.