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bradshaw06 06-27-2011 11:25 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joepsu0985 (Post 12725986)
It would have made sense to make an offer and then go to arbitration with him. Then walk away if they gave him more. He's a UFA and the outcome is the same as this.

Although Shero said last Thursday that he intended to give Kennedy a qualifying offer, he changed his mind because he did not want to face the possibility of waiting until Kennedy had an arbitration hearing in a month or so to find out what he would paid.

joepsu0985 06-28-2011 12:46 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 12726771)
Although Shero said last Thursday that he intended to give Kennedy a qualifying offer, he changed his mind because he did not want to face the possibility of waiting until Kennedy had an arbitration hearing in a month or so to find out what he would paid.

Right but in the meantime you still "own" TK. So if your free agent ventures fail, you still have that option to sign a guy who potted 20 and will get you between 15 and 20 this year. Jagr can't be our only option. It's bold letting TK out on a leash like that, especially with teams needing to spend to the cap floor.

If I'm a team that needs a contract to meet the floor, I say, "hey TK put up 20 last year, tends to work hard most shifts, why not throw $2.5M and a two year deal his way."

Refusing to take him to arbitration at this point just seems illogical. I mean Shero could pull a deal off that renders this moot, but there isn't a guy out there that I want.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Pens target Brook Laich. He made just over $2M last year. In fact, in a perfect world, they let TK go and sign him and Jagr. I think its doable under the Pens' cap situation. And leaves room for Rupp or Asham to resign to bring the grit.

bonzo48280 06-28-2011 12:52 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joepsu0985 (Post 12727173)
Right but in the meantime you still "own" TK. So if your free agent ventures fail, you still have that option to sign a guy who potted 20 and will get you between 15 and 20 this year. Jagr can't be our only option. It's bold letting TK out on a leash like that, especially with teams needing to spend to the cap floor.

If I'm a team that needs a contract to meet the floor, I say, "hey TK put up 20 last year, tends to work hard most shifts, why not throw $2.5M and a two year deal his way."

Refusing to take him to arbitration at this point just seems illogical. I mean Shero could pull a deal off that renders this moot, but there isn't a guy out there that I want.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Pens target Brook Laich. He made just over $2M last year. In fact, in a perfect world, they let TK go and sign him and Jagr. I think its doable under the Pens' cap situation. And leaves room for Rupp or Asham to resign to bring the grit.

Laich is easily gonna command $4.5 mil since he is the 2nd best free agent on the market. I doubt the Pens would do that with all the money they have invested in centers, but I could be wrong.

lockman21 06-28-2011 01:03 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
CSN had a list of people they think the Hawks should sign.

Dan Carcillo was on that list.

I will never watch CSN talk shows again.

dmbmuskie 06-28-2011 01:07 AM

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I know Kennedy played great last year, but the Pens roster is full of guys who could chip in 15. Jagr could be a total bust, or he could get 30 and really help on the PP. If he fails you just plug another of the guys capable of scoring 15 into his place and move on.

bonzo48280 06-28-2011 08:14 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12727233)
CSN had a list of people they think the Hawks should sign.

Dan Carcillo was on that list.

I will never watch CSN talk shows again.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

Sassone asked what the Hawks should do about Carcillo? I tweeted him "I dont want him anywhere near the Hawks" but what I really meant was "are you serious?"

Rebecca De Mornay 06-28-2011 08:31 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
If you miss a few hours in this thread you're burried :lol

Everyone here writes novels

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 09:13 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12726635)
Carter is a bitch. Get over it.

Eh if what he said was true and he kept his mouth shut so he didn't regret saying something stupid then ok. Still should have talked to the Jackets a little sooner. But I can't blame him for being pissed. You sign an 11 year deal thinking you are staying put and your gm says don't believe the rumors and you get traded anyways. If the Jackets never really get better you are stuck in purgatory for 11 years.
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Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12727612)
If you miss a few hours in this thread you're burried :lol

Everyone here writes novels

During the playoffs I usually just go to the last page. Will back read only if needed. It would monopolize my whole morning.

Rebecca De Mornay 06-28-2011 09:17 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Just bought season tickets to the Blue Jackets - any of you guys want to see your team play in Columbus let me know

~Crashintome89~ 06-28-2011 09:20 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12727642)
Eh if what he said was true and he kept his mouth shut so he didn't regret saying something stupid then ok. Still should have talked to the Jackets a little sooner. But I can't blame him for being pissed. You sign an 11 year deal thinking you are staying put and your gm says don't believe the rumors and you get traded anyways. If the Jackets never really get better you are stuck in purgatory for 11 years.

I have more of a problem with him not saying a word to the Jackets, then saying something to the media. Having them fly out to re-assure you is unneeded and puts a target on your back.

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 09:23 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12727649)
I have more of a problem with him not saying a word to the Jackets, then saying something to the media. Having them fly out to re-assure you is unneeded and puts a target on your back.

I'll give you that. I'm sure he'll get over it. I know they're not the Flyers but got a good young goalie, a great winger to play with and some other decent forwards there so there's a starting point.

~Crashintome89~ 06-28-2011 09:37 AM

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Also, it's not like he's a starving kid in Africa. The dude is making 5 mil a year for the next 11 years, I think he'll be just fine. Hockey players should especially know the old adage, if Wayne Gretzky can get traded--anyone can. At the end of the day, the NHL is a business and sometimes businesses have to make tough decisions. The world is not going to end for Jeff Carter.

kev87lads 06-28-2011 10:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12727644)
Just bought season tickets to the Blue Jackets - any of you guys want to see your team play in Columbus let me know

Unfortunately with the stupid "unbalanced" schedule, the Flyers don't even play in Columbus this season....

Rebecca De Mornay 06-28-2011 10:14 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 12727702)
Unfortunately with the stupid "unbalanced" schedule, the Flyers don't even play in Columbus this season....

Really? I thought everyone was here at least once. Oh well

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 10:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12727716)
Really? I thought everyone was here at least once. Oh well

No it rotates. Everyone plays every team at least once but not a home and home. It goes by division. So like the Wings this year play the SE teams at home this year and the Atlantic and NE teams on the road. But last year the Wings played the SE teams on the road and the Atlantic and NE at home.

Rebecca De Mornay 06-28-2011 10:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12727726)
No it rotates. Everyone plays every team at least once but not a home and home. It goes by division. So like the Wings this year play the SE teams at home this year and the Atlantic and NE teams on the road. But last year the Wings played the SE teams on the road and the Atlantic and NE at home.

Oh alright I see - seems like the Sabres have played here every season since I've been out here though - guess I was just lucky with that.

Well I know the Wings will be here a few times :thumbsup

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 10:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12727735)
Oh alright I see - seems like the Sabres have played here every season since I've been out here though - guess I was just lucky with that.

Well I know the Wings will be here a few times :thumbsup

Eh only 3 times. LOL Was a nice trip last year for me. Well a win helps.

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 11:02 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Supposedly Kopecky has signed with the Panthers. I only saw one person tweeting it so we'll see.

Also didn't see it mentioned but Hulsizer is no longer in on the bidding of the Coyotes. Here we go again... I was confident they were staying now I'm not sure. Houston, KC, Southern Ontario, Quebec City? Who's got he highest bidder?

And Laich is back in Washington so take him off the table. 6 years and $27mil so 4.5mil per.

MacGuyver 06-28-2011 11:05 AM

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Def won't be Ontario. maybe QC but now the govt has put a hold on the federal funding.

Anyone hear anythin about the Stamkos rumours to Philly?

dduncan6er 06-28-2011 11:05 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
http://lejournaldemontreal.canoe.ca/...28-063100.html
I know it's in French but I got it translated and the article says Chara has to go meet with Montreal police about that Paccioretty incident. This whole situation is an absolute joke I can't believe they're still going at this. He should bring the cup with him to the police station. :lol

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 11:08 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MacGuyver (Post 12727833)
Def won't be Ontario. maybe QC but now the govt has put a hold on the federal funding.

Anyone hear anythin about the Stamkos rumours to Philly?

Yeah QC needs the arena. Or at least being built and do a year or two in the old barn but I don't know if the NHL would even do that. IMO PHX is done. We'll see though.

Rebecca De Mornay 06-28-2011 11:11 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Ive always thought that Milwaulkee should have a team - are they ever rumored?

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 11:26 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12727856)
Ive always thought that Milwaulkee should have a team - are they ever rumored?

Of all the rumors I've seen over the last few months I haven't seen them ever mentioned. If Hamilton is in the territory of the Leafs Milwaukee is in the territory of the Hawks.

Cities listed in the past have been Quebec (needs arena though), Southern Ontario (seems unlikely though), KC (has arena but no owner), Houston, Las Vegas (won't happen anytime soon. move a team from one desert to another?) and finally the Northwest Seattle/Portland. Seattle doesn't have the arena but appears to have a group interested. Portland has the building the owners there haven't been rumored to be interested though.

Imagine the realignment hell if the Coyotes went East.

dduncan6er 06-28-2011 11:41 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12727834)
http://lejournaldemontreal.canoe.ca/...28-063100.html
I know it's in French but I got it translated and the article says Chara has to go meet with Montreal police about that Paccioretty incident. This whole situation is an absolute joke I can't believe they're still going at this. He should bring the cup with him to the police station. :lol

Here's a translation of the article if anyone's interested.
http://translate.google.com/translat...%26prmd%3Divns

fonzz41 06-28-2011 11:51 AM

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Sorry to all of you non-Caps fans coveting Laich:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=5...d-rr-headlines

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 12:01 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Dupuis is signed, 2 years at 1.5mil per.

~Crashintome89~ 06-28-2011 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12727991)
Sorry to all of you non-Caps fans coveting Laich:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=5...d-rr-headlines

God damn it... :twak

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 12:12 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
While some of the guys getting off the market now makes July 1st suck I like that players are sticking around.

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 12:29 PM

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http://twitter.com/#!/LukeLapinski/s...48671130812416

LOL

swordo84 06-28-2011 12:32 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12727834)
http://lejournaldemontreal.canoe.ca/...28-063100.html
I know it's in French but I got it translated and the article says Chara has to go meet with Montreal police about that Paccioretty incident. This whole situation is an absolute joke I can't believe they're still going at this. He should bring the cup with him to the police station. :lol

The whole situation is laughable! A huge :thumbsup to the bolded.

brew10 06-28-2011 12:36 PM

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Does Malkin's recent Tweet (as reported by PTI, although I can't find a fucking link anywhere) bother any Pens fans? Apparently he tweeted something along the lines of now that he's won a cup he's more excited to try and win a gold medal in Sochi in 2014 than another cup? I don't have the exact quote and I was sorta half asleep watching PTI yesterday but that is cause for some concern don't you think? You have a player who can easily become invisible when he wants to (part of the Russian genome if you ask me) saying that another Stanley Cup isn't his priority. From now until 2014 is he going to pedal to make sure he doesn't jeopardize this chance (especially after his injury this year) or is he as motivated as he should be? I don't know. I'm not to thrilled to hear that as a Pens fan...

Edit: this might be something since I haven't heard much about it and the Canadian media only focus on hockey stories that are nothing...

bradshaw06 06-28-2011 12:41 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brew10 (Post 12728130)
Does Malkin's recent Tweet (as reported by PTI, although I can't find a fucking link anywhere) bother any Pens fans? Apparently he tweeted something along the lines of now that he's won a cup he's more excited to try and win a gold medal in Sochi in 2014 than another cup? I don't have the exact quote and I was sorta half asleep watching PTI yesterday but that is cause for some concern don't you think? You have a player who can easily become invisible when he wants to (part of the Russian genome if you ask me) saying that another Stanley Cup isn't his priority. From now until 2014 is he going to pedal to make sure he doesn't jeopardize this chance (especially after his injury this year) or is he as motivated as he should be? I don't know. I'm not to thrilled to hear that as a Pens fan...

Edit: this might be something since I haven't heard much about it and the Canadian media only focus on hockey stories that are nothing...

Malkin doesnt have a twitter.

MDrums54 06-28-2011 12:43 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 12728144)
Malkin doesnt have a twitter.

can malkin even say twitter or tweet?

brew10 06-28-2011 12:45 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Oh. Well maybe it was a comment he made to the Russian media... Again, I was half asleep but I do know they discussed this issue on PTI. Someone must have watched PTI yesterday... Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

bradshaw06 06-28-2011 12:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MDrums54 (Post 12728150)
can malkin even say twitter or tweet?

lol, exactly. i doubt he even knows how to write in english.

the only pens with twitters are tangradi, talbot, rupp and kennedy.

bradshaw06 06-28-2011 12:47 PM

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im not sure i'd trust what pti has to say on anything hockey related.

~Crashintome89~ 06-28-2011 12:48 PM

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So what if it's true about Malkin? We all know Ovechkin is probably thinking the same thing too.

brew10 06-28-2011 12:52 PM

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I'm sure it's true for lots of players. But if you have a franchise player who is making 8.7 mil per and has stated that a Cup isn't a priority for him, isn't that cause for concern as a GM? I don't generally trust anything PTI says about hockey but they had to get that information from somewhere, so there is probably some truth to the rumor...

swordo84 06-28-2011 12:58 PM

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At the end of the day it doesn't matter because Canada will win gold again in 2014 anyway. He can plan for it all he wants, it isn't going to happen. My guess is Russia won't even medal (again)

brew10 06-28-2011 12:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 12728201)
At the end of the day it doesn't matter because Canada will win gold again in 2014 anyway. He can plan for it all he wants, it isn't going to happen. My guess is Russia won't even medal (again)

This is true. We Canadians can have 2 priorities. At least when it comes to hockey!

~Crashintome89~ 06-28-2011 01:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 12728201)
At the end of the day it doesn't matter because Canada will win gold again in 2014 anyway. He can plan for it all he wants, it isn't going to happen. My guess is Russia won't even medal (again)

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

dmbmuskie 06-28-2011 01:03 PM

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The first series with Detroit there were rumors about Malkin saying he would rather win for Russia than win a Cup. The guy barely spoke English then so I didn't put a lot of stock into it.

Rebecca De Mornay 06-28-2011 01:13 PM

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I dont have a big problem with it. It's like if I told my girl friend that I'd rather have sex with Brooklyn Decker than her. That doesn't mean I don't want to have sex with her - and she shouldn't break up with me for it

JRS1386 06-28-2011 01:21 PM

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Is stamkos a flyer yet?

~Crashintome89~ 06-28-2011 01:23 PM

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OMGSS should be the new tag.

joepsu0985 06-28-2011 01:23 PM

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Wow. Brooks Laich. What a contract. Free agency is going to be a cluster fuck.

dmbmuskie 06-28-2011 01:25 PM

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I like the DuPuis deal. I'm wondering if Shero can pull a rabbit out of his hat, and get TK at a similar price. IMO, Dupper is more important to the teams cup chances than Kennedy.

joepsu0985 06-28-2011 01:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12728307)
I like the DuPuis deal. I'm wondering if Shero can pull a rabbit out of his hat, and get TK at a similar price. IMO, Dupper is more important to the teams cup chances than Kennedy.

If the Caps paid a guy like Laich what they did, TK could get at least $3m on the open market.

brew10 06-28-2011 01:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12728262)
I dont have a big problem with it. It's like if I told my girl friend that I'd rather have sex with Brooklyn Decker than her. That doesn't mean I don't want to have sex with her - and she shouldn't break up with me for it

Good analogy but you're looking at it from Malkin's perspective. What if your girlfriend was saying she would rather have sex with People magazine's sexiest man alive Ryan Reynolds than you, and in 3 years she was going to go stay at his house for 2 weeks. Now, there is a chance that to be sure she can rock Van Wilder's world, she's not going to give it her all with you until then to ensure her snatch is in good working order for her 2 weeks with the Green Lantern. Would you still feel the same way?

I apologize in advance for referencing your girlfriend's vag.

Edit: Best 1000th post ever.

dmbmuskie 06-28-2011 01:35 PM

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If Malkin plays like he did on the Cup run he can say whatever he wants.

Rebecca De Mornay 06-28-2011 01:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brew10 (Post 12728342)
Good analogy but you're looking at it from Malkin's perspective. What if your girlfriend was saying she would rather have sex with People magazine's sexiest man alive Ryan Reynolds than you, and in 3 years she was going to go stay at his house for 2 weeks. Now, there is a chance that to be sure she can rock Van Wilder's world, she's not going to give it her all with you until then to ensure her snatch is in good working order for her 2 weeks with the Green Lantern. Would you still feel the same way?

I apologize in advance for referencing your girlfriend's vag.

:lol :lol no its quite alright - you make an excellent point - I'll have to consider this

dduncan6er 06-28-2011 01:37 PM

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I can't believe Laich got that much money and that many years.

DMBCubs25 06-28-2011 01:41 PM

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Gonna be a lot of overpayments come Friday...

~Crashintome89~ 06-28-2011 01:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brew10 (Post 12728342)
Good analogy but you're looking at it from Malkin's perspective. What if your girlfriend was saying she would rather have sex with People magazine's sexiest man alive Ryan Reynolds than you, and in 3 years she was going to go stay at his house for 2 weeks. Now, there is a chance that to be sure she can rock Van Wilder's world, she's not going to give it her all with you until then to ensure her snatch is in good working order for her 2 weeks with the Green Lantern. Would you still feel the same way?

I apologize in advance for referencing your girlfriend's vag.

Edit: Best 1000th post ever.

Yeah, but you're missing a very big proponent to all of this and that is:

You have a bigger penis than Ryan Reynolds.

Rebecca De Mornay 06-28-2011 01:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12728374)
Yeah, but you're missing a very big proponent to all of this and that is:

You have a bigger penis than Ryan Reynolds.

Thanks bro, that means a lot

swordo84 06-28-2011 01:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12728215)
I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Too late, I already am.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 12728292)
Is stamkos a flyer yet?

You can't really believe the Tampa won't match any offer sheet (provided they don't get him re-signed by the 1st)

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12728346)
If Malkin plays like he did on the Cup run he can say whatever he wants.

It's been 2 years since that so I think that's a big IF right now.
Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 12728389)
You can't really believe the Tampa won't match any offer sheet (provided they don't get him re-signed by the 1st)

They will match anything. Only a handful of teams can really put for a deal to get him signed and still fill out a 23-man roster. I mean the only deal they wouldn't match would have to be over $9mil per. At $9mil TB could probably still make it work. They have almost $22mil in cap space to sign 7-8 players.

UCFish 06-28-2011 01:59 PM

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Was in AC with no real interwebz....

Very interesting to see Campbell got moved. Thought that was unmovable.

dmbmuskie 06-28-2011 02:05 PM

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Maybe I just have my homer glasses again, but I expect Malkin to be a monster this year. How he attacked his rehab made me really believe that he's going to work his ass off to get back into the best player in the world argument.

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 02:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 12728449)
Was in AC with no real interwebz....

Very interesting to see Campbell got moved. Thought that was unmovable.

Yeah so did I but it was Tallon getting him back and because the cap floor keeps going up teams need money to get to the floor so it was the perfect scenario for the Hawks.

kev87lads 06-28-2011 02:14 PM

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Tampa matches any Stamkos offer, no question. Com'on people.

DMBCubs25 06-28-2011 02:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12728477)
Maybe I just have my homer glasses again, but I expect Malkin to be a monster this year. How he attacked his rehab made me really believe that he's going to work his ass off to get back into the best player in the world argument.

It'd be nice to see Pitt have their full team healthy with Sid and Geno back in top form. Anyone specifically the Pens are targeting come Friday and is Rupp expected to re-sign there?

dmbmuskie 06-28-2011 02:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DMBCubs25 (Post 12728520)
It'd be nice to see Pitt have their full team healthy with Sid and Geno back in top form. Anyone specifically the Pens are targeting come Friday and is Rupp expected to re-sign there?

Everything I've read has us basically keeping the status quo. I think our FA splash was last summer, and I think Shero did a great job. Martin is making a little too much money, IMO, but I think Michaelek is a little underpaid. I honestly believe we win the Cup with Malkin and Sid in the lineup, so I'm not sure why we could look to make any big changes.

I would have thought Rupp was a lock for us to keep, because he can fight and play, but it seems like he's gone.

DMBCubs25 06-28-2011 02:26 PM

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Would love to see the Hawks add a guy like Rupp to the 4th line. Also to the resident Flyers fans, any word on if Leino is going to re-up in Philly? I think he would be a nice addition for the Hawks, would like to see how he would play with someone like Bolland.

joepsu0985 06-28-2011 02:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12728477)
Maybe I just have my homer glasses again, but I expect Malkin to be a monster this year. How he attacked his rehab made me really believe that he's going to work his ass off to get back into the best player in the world argument.

Agreed. Coming off the two Cup runs and the Olympics he was suffering from too much hockey and then got injured. I'm expecting him to be a monster again.

joepsu0985 06-28-2011 02:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12728546)
Everything I've read has us basically keeping the status quo. I think our FA splash was last summer, and I think Shero did a great job. Martin is making a little too much money, IMO, but I think Michaelek is a little underpaid. I honestly believe we win the Cup with Malkin and Sid in the lineup, so I'm not sure why we could look to make any big changes.

I would have thought Rupp was a lock for us to keep, because he can fight and play, but it seems like he's gone.

While Martin is overpaid, he may be one of the more responsible defensive minded d-men, we've had back there in a while. Everyone automatically assumed that he was going to replace Gonchar, but that never was the case.

Rebecca De Mornay 06-28-2011 02:38 PM

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What is the word on Crosby anyways? Is he going to be back next year? Was all that retirement stuff BS?

Bron Yr Aur 06-28-2011 02:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brew10 (Post 12728342)
Good analogy but you're looking at it from Malkin's perspective. What if your girlfriend was saying she would rather have sex with People magazine's sexiest man alive Ryan Reynolds than you, and in 3 years she was going to go stay at his house for 2 weeks. Now, there is a chance that to be sure she can rock Van Wilder's world, she's not going to give it her all with you until then to ensure her snatch is in good working order for her 2 weeks with the Green Lantern. Would you still feel the same way?

I apologize in advance for referencing your girlfriend's vag.

Edit: Best 1000th post ever.

Yeah, also, if you actually do say this....

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Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12728262)
...if I told my girl friend that I'd rather have sex with Brooklyn Decker than her...

...you will probably be in big trouble.

joepsu0985 06-28-2011 02:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12728656)
What is the word on Crosby anyways? Is he going to be back next year? Was all that retirement stuff BS?

He currently participating in two-a-days, and on schedule. All that retirement was definitely BS.

dmbmuskie 06-28-2011 02:45 PM

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I think Martin is an upgrade over Gonch. The PP sucked when Gonch was there too.

joepsu0985 06-28-2011 02:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12728694)
I think Martin is an upgrade over Gonch. The PP sucked when Gonch was there too.

Yeah. I mean offensively he isn't Gonchar, but he moves the puck out of the zone better. Pens need Letang to step up and hit the net, or sticks in front of the net. Z and Martin are a great shutdown pair. I can see the Pens moving Orpik at the deadline to get a winger. We are deep defensively.

dmbmuskie 06-28-2011 03:01 PM

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I love our Top 4, but the bottom pair scares me. I'd love to see us add a physical guy with some puck skills, but that's probably outside the budget.

Despres could be that guy, but it seems impossible for young guys to break into this lineup.

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 04:06 PM

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Belfour, Gilmour, Mark Howe, Nieuwendyk are Hall of Famers.

swordo84 06-28-2011 04:09 PM

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Erhoff thinks he is worth more than Bieksa :ugh
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=370268

I mean, it's an alright d-man, but I think he needs to re-examine his thoughts on his own worth.

dduncan6er 06-28-2011 04:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 12729229)
Erhoff thinks he is worth more than Bieksa :ugh
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=370268

I mean, it's an alright d-man, but I think he needs to re-examine his thoughts on his own worth.

He's not worth more than Bieksa but he'll get more than Bieksa now.

fonzz41 06-28-2011 05:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 12729229)
Erhoff thinks he is worth more than Bieksa :ugh
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=370268

I mean, it's an alright d-man, but I think he needs to re-examine his thoughts on his own worth.

Outside of Brad Richards, this year really is a pretty shallow FA pool considering previous years. If Ehrhoff is smart (or rather, if his agent is smart), he will milk that fact for all it's worth.

bonzo48280 06-28-2011 06:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12727644)
Just bought season tickets to the Blue Jackets - any of you guys want to see your team play in Columbus let me know

how many tickets did you purchase? I could maybe make a trip out there for the one weekend game we have in February.

Rebecca De Mornay 06-28-2011 06:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12729710)
how many tickets did you purchase? I could maybe make a trip out there for the one weekend game we have in February.

I've got 2 - good seats though. It's always fairly easy to get more tickets as well

bonzo48280 06-28-2011 06:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12729720)
I've got 2 - good seats though. It's always fairly easy to get more tickets as well

well I will have to let you know down the road, I got accepted to paramedic school and I have no idea what my schedule will be like in February.

Erhoff is worth more than Bieksa right now just because Bieksa took a pay cut. Bieksa could have made some real big money, but he wants to remain a dickhead with the Vancouver Shmucks

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 06:54 PM

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All this Stamkos offer sheet talk is just stupid. Unless it's a 10 year deal worth 11mil per the Lightning will match.

TMoore4075 06-28-2011 09:22 PM

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Ehrhoff's rights traded to Isles foe a 4th rounder. Odd place IMO.

wampa3 06-28-2011 09:26 PM

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Jagr has been offered a contract by Shero. Word on the street is that its a 1-year deal for something above $2 mil. Jagr has been given a deadline to make a decision by tomorrow afternoon.

Giant Jew 06-28-2011 09:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12729720)
I've got 2 - good seats though. It's always fairly easy to get more tickets as well

I assume you are going to the game when the Sabres visit?

laura22 06-28-2011 10:20 PM

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http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/...p1=Upbox_links
lololol

Rebecca De Mornay 06-28-2011 10:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant Jew (Post 12730260)
I assume you are going to the game when the Sabres visit?

Oh of course - you should go! Area around the arena is awesome - especially when the sabres are in town

DmBand801 06-28-2011 10:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12730245)
Ehrhoff's rights traded to Isles foe a 4th rounder. Odd place IMO.

I love the aggressiveness of Garth Snow.

joepsu0985 06-28-2011 11:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12729851)
All this Stamkos offer sheet talk is just stupid. Unless it's a 10 year deal worth 11mil per the Lightning will match.

They have to match anything. If not, the fans turn against them. If I'm a fan, I'm livid they couldn't get the deal done.

joepsu0985 06-28-2011 11:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie (Post 12728767)
I love our Top 4, but the bottom pair scares me. I'd love to see us add a physical guy with some puck skills, but that's probably outside the budget.

Despres could be that guy, but it seems impossible for young guys to break into this lineup.

I think Engo-Lovejoy start out in our bottom 4. I think that will be pretty good.

Bron Yr Aur 06-29-2011 02:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 12729229)
Erhoff thinks he is worth more than Bieksa :ugh
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=370268

I mean, it's an alright d-man, but I think he needs to re-examine his thoughts on his own worth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12729264)
He's not worth more than Bieksa but he'll get more than Bieksa now.

Let's see....Bieksa played 55 and 66 games in the past two seasons, is a couple years older, who is no more than a solid 2nd-pair guy. He's got some grit and toughness, more than Ehrhoff.

Ehrhoff is much, much more of an offensive threat, and he's a pretty solid first-pairing guy. VAN would've been much better off to give Ehrhoff his money and let Bieksa go. #1/2 d-men get $5m+ in this market, with this cap. I mean, Brent Seabrook got $5.8m per from the Hawks during the season.

bonzo48280 06-29-2011 03:26 AM

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Erhoff > Bieksa is you ask me. here is how I remember Bieksa, the pussy who can't take a hit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6JTOLgMyg0

dduncan6er 06-29-2011 08:29 AM

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I take Bieksa over Ehrhoff any day of the week.
In other news it looks like Kaberle is going to test the market. Doesn't really break my heart.

TMoore4075 06-29-2011 09:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DmBand801 (Post 12730492)
I love the aggressiveness of Garth Snow.

I agree BUT most likely he's going to test the market anyways. He would be stupid not too. Who knows what is coming with the CBA expiring you have to see whats out there.
Quote:

Originally Posted by joepsu0985 (Post 12730717)
They have to match anything. If not, the fans turn against them. If I'm a fan, I'm livid they couldn't get the deal done.

Fans would walk away from a team they were coming back to. Pack the team up and move em if Stamkos is gone.
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Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12731306)
I take Bieksa over Ehrhoff any day of the week.
In other news it looks like Kaberle is going to test the market. Doesn't really break my heart.

I read they were trying to shop his rights too.

dduncan6er 06-29-2011 09:07 AM

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I've heard the Wings thrown out there a lot as a possible destination for Kaberle.

Rebecca De Mornay 06-29-2011 09:10 AM

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The Jackets need to re-sign Hejda now if they want to keep him - all these D-men on the move his price keeps going up

TMoore4075 06-29-2011 09:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12731341)
I've heard the Wings thrown out there a lot as a possible destination for Kaberle.

Yeah I've heard that too. Eh doesn't interest me. I have a feeling he'll get stupid money too.

dduncan6er 06-29-2011 09:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12731364)
Yeah I've heard that too. Eh doesn't interest me. I have a feeling he'll get stupid money too.

Yep someone is going to overpay for him and I'm very glad it's not the Bruins. I'd rather give Kampfer a shot at the bottom pair. He showed some flashes last year and he's obviously a hell of a lot cheaper.

aclark0622 06-29-2011 10:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12731306)
I take Bieksa over Ehrhoff any day of the week.
In other news it looks like Kaberle is going to test the market. Doesn't really break my heart.

Nor mine - dude was a total bum.

TMoore4075 06-29-2011 10:28 AM

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Kopecky got 4 years and $3mil per. LOL!!!!! Well there's gonna be a lockout next year. I can't blame FLA for doing this. They have to get to the floor which is higher than what the cap was in both the first and second year of the new cba.

Rebecca De Mornay 06-29-2011 10:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12731470)
Kopecky got 4 years and $3mil per. LOL!!!!! Well there's gonna be a lockout next year. I can't blame FLA for doing this. They have to get to the floor which is higher than what the cap was in both the first and second year of the new cba.

What? :BANG

bonzo48280 06-29-2011 10:38 AM

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The league wouldn't be dumb enough to lockout, but the CBA will change drastically.


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