End of Snow Outside- Analyzing the jam
First off, this is the best song on the album in my opinion, and probably the best song they've released in a longgg time.
I don't understand the end of it though. It reminds me of the end of proudest monkey except the end of that song makes sense and the count works. What I'm talking about starts at 4:15. I've been playing drums since I was like six years old and I know how to hold tempos and keep count. It sounds like they lose each other at 4:52 when carter starts smashing the china cymbal, after that it just goes crazy and they meet eventually at 5:12. Does anyone with tempo/count skills know if this makes any sense musically? Maybe I'm just not understanding this one but I really do think it's off and it sounds horrible. I've been covering DMB's music on the drums for a longg ass time and nothing has ever thrown me off like this. |
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interesting, i don't know much about musical timing but did notice a change during the jam...i like the jam and invision this song turning into one of their classic 12-20 minute monsters live, anxious to hear others' responses to this |
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just checked it out. the 6 beat is maintained throughout that whole span, but where you're getting tripped up is when Boyd seems to start his little diddy on the 4, but he extends it to fill out the following 6
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Best song on the album.
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i'm talking about the part he's been playing for the whole jam, but he breaks up his usual pattern at various times by a beat or two, and I think the one that's throwing you off is at 4:14, and the china coming in makes it difficult to hear the recovery of the timing but it's there. the easiest thing to hold onto throughout is the bass. it remains the same count but does sound like it got changed
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Boyd's violin in the end comes out of your speakers and wraps around your head just like his descending violin solo in cry freedom. Just my 0.02.
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i felt the same way when i heard it first. it kinda feels like it switches from 6/4 to like a slow four during the jam or 6/8 or 12/8 based on stefans triplets. really if you follow stefans bassline throughout the jam hes the one keeping the groove and time going.
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its almost like that bela fleck song where they all play in different time signatures. Cause daves guitar line is going through out but it doesnt fit stefan when he starts the fast triplet bassline. which makes this song fuckin awesome haha
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if you watch the video dave seems extremely focused on his guitar part becuase its hard to keep that going when everybody else is doing different shit
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I looove that jam. It sounds messed up but it's really straight forward. Just keep counting. Carter hits his crash cymbals on "1" every now and then to help you out (4:59, 5:02, 5:05)
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They never lose each other. Carter keeps the time and the other members do meander some but they all get back in line at the end. Sounds great to me. Very Flecktones like.
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It can be called Hemiola or Cross Rhythm. It's a type of polyrhythm; basically just a 3 against 2 pattern. If you think of it as 6/4 or a sort of half time 3/4 feel, you just think 8th or 16th note triplets in place of 8th/16th notes accordingly to go from a simple feel to a compound feel.
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I love the sound Stefan gives in this piece. to me, that's what makes it. but, it's not JUST stefan, but his playing in time with Carter and how forward in the production he is, especially when they are changing the time...fantastic.
agree with Lillywhite being a perfect match. shame on record labels, the band, whoever that would stop him from producing any music that they want to release. such an unbelievable difference. |
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speaking of weird timing that is kinda hard to figure out... does anyone know what's happening on certain parts of Belly Full? Dave is strumming and it sounds like a simple 4-count. but there's a few parts where it sounds like the strumming 'hic-cups' for lack of a better word. Anyone else notice that/know what is going on w/the timing there? i've thought it over and i can't figure it out. :confused
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Before today I really really liked this jam but now after probably my 20th listen I'm absolutely amazed and in love with this jam. Maybe the single best part of the album. Snow outside is now my second favorite song on AFTW
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This jam is completely making my morning today. Love it.
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Love the jam, especially the drum work (as always!), but does anyone else get frustrated by the rising guitar line getting so loud and covering up the genius happening underneath?
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