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efraser77 07-03-2011 07:52 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Wow. Goodbye Dany Heatley, hello Martin Havlat.

What will we do with the extra 1.3 mil in cap space?

efraser77 07-03-2011 08:41 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Actually, we save $2.5 mil in cap space. Now have 20 players signed and just over $6 mil more available. Hmm...

UCFish 07-03-2011 08:51 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Sharks got Havlat?....not too shabby

efraser77 07-03-2011 08:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 12744694)
Sharks got Havlat?....not too shabby

I like it. Last year Heater had 26 goals on the Sharks, Havlat had 22 on a team with no offense. And in his two years with SJ, Heater had only 5 goals in 32 playoff games. Nowhere near good enough for a $7.5 million player. And another significant thing is Havlat's locked up for four more years. As it was, Thornton, Marleau, Heatley, Pavelski and Boyle were all scheduled to be UFAs at the same time.

UCFish 07-03-2011 09:04 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I like that trade for you....Enjoyed Havlat on the Hawks...

DMBCubs25 07-04-2011 12:00 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Heatley has to be awful in the dressing room...

bradshaw06 07-04-2011 01:19 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
dunno if it was said, but talbots contract violates the cba, flyers are going to have to fix it

dmbetc 07-04-2011 04:52 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Aside from Heatly being a DMB fan, I have no respect for him. Glad to see the sharks trade him off.

lockman21 07-04-2011 05:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DMBCubs25 (Post 12744841)
Heatley has to be awful in the dressing room...

Havlat has been said to be awful as well.

TMoore4075 07-04-2011 05:36 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I don't know who wins this trade. Minny gets some offense but SJ clears cap room. I'm not sure Havlat is going to help out that much. Heatley had a down year this year but the previous 2 had 39 each. Marty's never done that.

TMoore4075 07-04-2011 09:51 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Biggest free agent buts:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mul...content.1.html

Rangers are on there 7 times I think.

JRS1386 07-04-2011 10:19 AM

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Is that link n/h?

~Crashintome89~ 07-05-2011 06:32 AM

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My man Chris Gratton taking the cake.

TMoore4075 07-05-2011 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12746518)
My man Chris Gratton taking the cake.

Yeah that was a bad one. Flyers made some...interesting moves from 97-99.

For the Wings on there twice, Krupp would have been ok if healthy. Cujo I blame totally on Wings ownership/management. When you pushed him aside for Hasek after your entire team stunk it up against the Ducks. Forget that Hasek hadn't been on the ice since he won the Cup a year earlier and then Hasek couldn't stay healthy and they had to turn back to Cujo. Then he got hurt Legace got the chance and stunk in the first 4 games against the Preds and they had to go back to Cujo AGAIN an he bailed your ass out by giving up 1 goal in two games to win the series. That's why I was ok with getting a salary cap. Made the Wings have to make the right moves. They got greedy after their moves worked out in 02 and they tried stacking up which didn't work. Won more playoff games in 07 (not getting to the Finals) than they did in all of 03 and 04 playoffs combined.

joepsu0985 07-05-2011 08:09 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Know what is crazy? No Stamkos news. No offer sheets. Nothing.

TMoore4075 07-05-2011 08:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joepsu0985 (Post 12746760)
Know what is crazy? No Stamkos news. No offer sheets. Nothing.

There was a report they were getting closer to a deal. 5 years and 37mil was the last offer supposedly. We'll see.

lockman21 07-05-2011 08:37 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12745177)
Biggest free agent buts:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mul...content.1.html

Rangers are on there 7 times I think.

Lots of Blackhawks too.

God, I hate reading about Huet.

joepsu0985 07-05-2011 08:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12746790)
There was a report they were getting closer to a deal. 5 years and 37mil was the last offer supposedly. We'll see.

I thought someone would put out an offer sheet with the Cap floor where it was at. A few years ago, it almost certainly happens.

TMoore4075 07-05-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12746845)
Lots of Blackhawks too.

God, I hate reading about Huet.

Yeah. Campbell was bad but at least he provided something. Campbell it was more the length anyways, at least to me. Huet had never done anything to deserve that and I can't imagine there was a bidding war for the guy. And Campbell, at least with hockey fans, had name recognition. I bet even people who followed the game might not have known who the guy was. I'll scratch my head on that one for a while.

TMoore4075 07-05-2011 11:30 AM

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Ladd signs a 4 year deal with the Jets and avoids arbitration. 4.4mil cap hit.

Rumors Conklin will be signing with the Wings. Totally fine if that's true.

fonzz41 07-05-2011 11:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12747389)
Ladd signs a 4 year deal with the Jets and avoids arbitration. 4.4mil cap hit.

Rumors Conklin will be signing with the Wings. Totally fine if that's true.

I love Conklin for what he does. A very capable and dependable backup. A little surprised, as I thought MacDonald did a pretty respectable job and they'd give him the backup job.

TMoore4075 07-05-2011 12:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 12747477)
I love Conklin for what he does. A very capable and dependable backup. A little surprised, as I thought MacDonald did a pretty respectable job and they'd give him the backup job.

From what I've heard he wanted a one-way deal and the Wings wanted a two-way deal to add depth in the minors since most of their goalies are pretty young. I thought he did well too. Much better than I expected.

I like Conklin a lot too. He's Manny Legace. The perfect backup. Can come in, play strong but can't go right back to the bench. Legace proved in St. Louis he wasn't exactly starter material.

UCFish 07-05-2011 12:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12746863)
Yeah. Campbell was bad but at least he provided something. Campbell it was more the length anyways, at least to me. Huet had never done anything to deserve that and I can't imagine there was a bidding war for the guy. And Campbell, at least with hockey fans, had name recognition. I bet even people who followed the game might not have known who the guy was. I'll scratch my head on that one for a while.

Campbell helped win a cup....overpaid yes but if you win I think it is worth it.

TMoore4075 07-05-2011 12:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 12747596)
Campbell helped win a cup....overpaid yes but if you win I think it is worth it.

Fact that you only had to pay him for 3 of the 8 years and won a Cup I think is the complete victory.

MacGuyver 07-05-2011 01:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joepsu0985 (Post 12746760)
Know what is crazy? No Stamkos news. No offer sheets. Nothing.

Here is my rant from another forum:

I do not get, for the life of me, why this is not being talked about more. Yes, it is a kick in the balls to the GM who has to make a tough call between matching the offer sheet or taking the draft picks. But this is a chance to get a franchise player. I mean there are three of them out there. Stammer. Doughty. And you could probably argue Yandle as well. This isn't a freaking gentleman's club. This is competitive. You paint yourself into a corner with salaries (St Louis, lecav, malone, etc.), you are a low budget team, and now you can't afford Stammer, well too bad. These aren't on the cusp players. they are already stars to superstars.

If the rival GM chooses to pick on you five years down the road, so be it. but that shouldn't detract from offers being made. These offers are made all the time in the NBA and it's just accepted. Take care of your RFAs or else someone might swoop in and take them.

I am just appalled that not one offer has been made to any of the significant RFAs.

I heard Loiselle on the radio with Bobcat a few days ago. "we won't submit an offer sheet because the other team will just match". Then make a high offer sheet and make them commit, at least its strategic.

WTF???

wampa3 07-05-2011 01:11 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12747389)
Ladd signs a 4 year deal with the Jets and avoids arbitration. 4.4mil cap hit.

Rumors Conklin will be signing with the Wings. Totally fine if that's true.

Still kind of surreal to me to see these words written

lockman21 07-05-2011 01:19 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Good deal on Ladd. Only guy I really still miss.















Besides Burish, obviously. Really miss Bur.

dduncan6er 07-05-2011 01:57 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I heard on Boston radio that Kaberle is likely going to Carolina for 3 years/$12.75 mil.

dduncan6er 07-05-2011 02:00 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
And the Bruins picked up Joe Corvo for a 4th rounder.

dduncan6er 07-05-2011 02:04 PM

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I guess Corvo could help the power play. But I hate the fact that he's a woman beating POS.


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