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Lcsulla 04-04-2016 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16359622)
It's just Bron being Bron. You'll get used to it.

Just could not recall who said that but could not resist the crack because he is playing damn well for the Hawks.

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16359780)
Barbs, could you get me in touch with the guy who does the banners for the Caps?

I'm in need of a useless banner after my decisive Ants Fantasy Hockey championship win. :cool

Well played! :lol

aeroshady 04-04-2016 04:16 PM

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Ants is running really slowly today...having a hard time getting to the nhl thread

dmbetc 04-04-2016 09:42 PM

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Kings look like poo going into the playoffs.

dmbetc 04-04-2016 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16359780)
Barbs, could you get me in touch with the guy who does the banners for the Caps?

I'm in need of a useless banner after my decisive Ants Fantasy Hockey championship win. :cool

:lol congrats man!

We need a trophy to move around the league.

barbogast 04-05-2016 03:09 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16359780)
Barbs, could you get me in touch with the guy who does the banners for the Caps?

I'm in need of a useless banner after my decisive Ants Fantasy Hockey championship win. :cool

Nice! Definitely deserves a banner. Back to back defending champ now yes?

TMoore4075 04-05-2016 04:44 AM

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Go Canes!

salrx95 04-05-2016 06:44 AM

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Solid win vs the Lightning. Team looked and Bishop not so good again vs us.

Also , I saw video of Patrick Roy calling out Duchene publicly over his over the top celebration of a goal when Avs were down 4-0. Not the biggest Roy fan but I had no problem with it. I rather liked it.

Lcsulla 04-05-2016 07:15 AM

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Wow, lot of clinching playoff slots yesterday - Rangers, Pathers, Sharks and Preds - plus I cannot see a scenario where the Wild or the Lightening do not get in, rest is going down to the wire.

Lets talk trophies now

Presidents cup is already won by the Caps.
I think with 8 points in the past 2 games Panarin sealed up the Calder
Vezina is tough. Holtby, Bishop and Elliot are the frontrunners I would say.
Kane runs away with the Art Ross
Lady Bing goes to Tofoli IMO, he probably gets the Selke too - though you could also make a Selke case for Toews, Bergeron or Hossa.
Karlsonn wins another Norris
Kane likely sneaks out a win in for the Hart
McDavid would be my vote for the Bill Masterson
Barring a fluke Tofoli gets the Plus minus award
Ovi is almost a lock for the Maurice Ricards
Jack Adams is tough, best guesses are John Cooper, Barry Trotz, Bruce Boudreau - possibly to Dave Hakstol or Joel Quenneville
Roger Crozier award probably goes to Elliot or Bishop barring a barring both of them taking a dump and getting smoked in the last few games in which case it would oddly go to Crawford
Ted Lindsay Award probably goes to Kane
Yzerman probably retains the GM award
Toews likely gets the Messier leadership award

The rest are going to be battles right up until the end and I won't even bother making predictions!

Lcsulla 04-05-2016 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 16360482)
Also , I saw video of Patrick Roy calling out Duchene publicly over his over the top celebration of a goal when Avs were down 4-0. Not the biggest Roy fan but I had no problem with it. I rather liked it.

Yeah, I have no issue with him calling out Duchene either. Roy gave me fits growing up following every Whalers game! :lol

Dramageek 04-05-2016 07:36 AM

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^ Nice assessment on the trophies. I might throw Mike Sullivan in consideration for Jack Adams because the Pens have been just ridiculous since he took over. But he wasn't there the entire season, so I'd still give weight to Trotz or Boudreau.

hailtopitt 04-05-2016 07:38 AM

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the fact that Sullivan hasn't been there all season adds to his Jack Adams resume IMO

never understood why being there all year would help someone's case

hailtopitt 04-05-2016 07:39 AM

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and the trophy assessment is a little blackhawks heavy :lol i know it's hard to be unbiased sometimes but damn

Dramageek 04-05-2016 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16360548)
and the trophy assessment is a little blackhawks heavy :lol i know it's hard to be unbiased sometimes but damn

Do you expect anything less from Jamie? :lol The thing is, though, Kane has the Art Ross pretty much tied up, and has a good shot at the Hart. Kane also has a good shot at the Ted Lindsay award given his performance.

Panera Bread has a good shot at the Calder, though I'd say it's not locked.

Quennville might be in the Jack Adams consideration because he's Quennville, but I don't think the Hawks as a team stood out enough this year to merit that.

Overall, he's not entirely out of line favoring the Hawks players in those categories.

kev87lads 04-05-2016 07:49 AM

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Villanova!!!!

hailtopitt 04-05-2016 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 16360572)
Do you expect anything less from Jamie? :lol The thing is, though, Kane has the Art Ross pretty much tied up, and has a good shot at the Hart. Kane also has a good shot at the Ted Lindsay award given his performance.

Panera Bread has a good shot at the Calder, though I'd say it's not locked.

Quennville might be in the Jack Adams consideration because he's Quennville, but I don't think the Hawks as a team stood out enough this year to merit that.

Overall, he's not entirely out of line favoring the Hawks players in those categories.

Q shouldn't be in the convo for Jack Adams whatsoever

Toews and Hossa shouldn't be in the Selke mix IMO

Dramageek 04-05-2016 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16360581)
Q shouldn't be in the convo for Jack Adams whatsoever

Toews and Hossa shouldn't be in the Selke mix IMO

I agree with this, too. I think Selke likely goes to Bergeron. Though I'll put my homer hat on and say Crosby should be a Selke nominee this year.

hailtopitt 04-05-2016 08:07 AM

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it's silly that Crosby never gets considered for the Selke because he's the best 2-way player in the league by a lot...but he never will because everyone associates him with offense because people are dumb

also, if Karlsson wins another Norris that will be bullshit...Letang has been the better player pretty much all year

Lcsulla 04-05-2016 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by aeroshady (Post 16360000)
Ants is running really slowly today...having a hard time getting to the nhl thread

Driving me nuts too, it is every thread that I have opened for 2 days now! Rather annoying.

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16360546)
the fact that Sullivan hasn't been there all season adds to his Jack Adams resume IMO

never understood why being there all year would help someone's case

Not sure if it hurts or harms to be honest, the votes by the broadcasting association are impossible to predict.

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16360548)
and the trophy assessment is a little blackhawks heavy :lol i know it's hard to be unbiased sometimes but damn

I know but Kane is a large part of that and you really cannot deny that he is the frontrunner for the Art Ross and the Hart. Also, stats do not lie - Panarin should easily win the Calder. You really cannot deny that both Toews and Hossa are great two way guys who contribute a lot on D. Also, not sure there is a better captain and leader in the NHL then Toews right now. Q is not going to get coach of the year but I think he will get some votes. I threw in Crawford for the Save Percentage award because it is such a tight race (.005 separating Elliot and Crawford) so if Bishop has a bad night against the Rangers tonight and Elliot gets blown out on Thursday in Chicago or Saturday against the Caps it could strangely end up in Crawford's hands.

hailtopitt 04-05-2016 08:14 AM

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never said anything about Kane, he's having a great year...same with Panera

but sorry, Toews and Hossa for the Selke...just no...would be terrible if either of them win that award

and don't care about save % award (:lol) because you can't vote on that

Lcsulla 04-05-2016 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16360598)
it's silly that Crosby never gets considered for the Selke because he's the best 2-way player in the league by a lot...but he never will because everyone associates him with offense because people are dumb

also, if Karlsson wins another Norris that will be bullshit...Letang has been the better player pretty much all year


Agreed on Crosby - they only seem to see his offense.

Equally the writers association will probably be dazzled by Karlsson's point total and award him another Norris. Though maybe they will do their jobs and actually look solely at defensive contributions - in which case there are a lot of guys in the mix, doubt it though.

jrkarger 04-05-2016 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by aeroshady (Post 16360000)
Ants is running really slowly today...having a hard time getting to the nhl thread

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Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16360600)
Driving me nuts too, it is every thread that I have opened for 2 days now! Rather annoying.

Jamie, I've noticed this too. I'm on chrome and the bottom bar is always saying "waiting for piwik.antsmarching.org" as the page loads and does nothing.

A quick google search says "piwik" is a "Piwik is the leading open-source analytics platform that gives you more than just powerful analytics:" - that's from piwik.org; whatever that is.

I think this is something am.org has installed on its side because I don't have this problem with any other site i go to.

Perhaps you can pass this on to the higher ups.

Lcsulla 04-05-2016 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16360608)
never said anything about Kane, he's having a great year...same with Panera

but sorry, Toews and Hossa for the Selke...just no...would be terrible if either of them win that award

and don't care about save % award (:lol) because you can't vote on that

Agreed on Kane and Panarin. When it come to these awards the voters are idiots IMO. In fairness to Toews he does have one Selke and gets back damn quick to help out a lot on defense.

Dramageek 04-05-2016 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16360609)
Agreed on Crosby - they only seem to see his offense.

Equally the writers association will probably be dazzled by Karlsson's point total and award him another Norris. Though maybe they will do their jobs and actually look solely at defensive contributions - in which case there are a lot of guys in the mix, doubt it though.

This seems to happen every year with the Norris, which essentially goes to the best offensive defenseman. I'll put my homer hat on one more time for Letang, because he's played stellar defense along with putting up a nice point total. But others should be in the mix, too.

hailtopitt 04-05-2016 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16360613)
Agreed on Kane and Panarin. When it come to these awards the voters are idiots IMO. In fairness to Toews he does have one Selke and gets back damn quick to help out a lot on defense.

yes, we can all agree the voters are idiots

Toews is pretty good both ways but guys like Bergeron, Crosby and Datsyuk in his prime are next level

it's a crime that Crosby doesn't have one yet

Lcsulla 04-05-2016 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jrkarger (Post 16360612)
Jamie, I've noticed this too. I'm on chrome and the bottom bar is always saying "waiting for piwik.antsmarching.org" as the page loads and does nothing.

A quick google search says "piwik" is a "Piwik is the leading open-source analytics platform that gives you more than just powerful analytics:" - that's from piwik.org; whatever that is.

I think this is something am.org has installed on its side because I don't have this problem with any other site i go to.

Perhaps you can pass this on to the higher ups.

I will take a crack at mentioning it to Jake because the forum runs on a SQL platform anyhow so we could do all the analytic's we want ourselves if we wanted.

hailtopitt 04-05-2016 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 16360615)
This seems to happen every year with the Norris, which essentially goes to the best offensive defenseman. I'll put my homer hat on one more time for Letang, because he's played stellar defense along with putting up a nice point total. But others should be in the mix, too.

Letang has been just as offensively productive as Karlsson and is much better in his own zone

Letang is on another level than everyone right now. his plays speaks for itself

jrkarger 04-05-2016 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16360618)
I will take a crack at mentioning it to Jake because the forum runs on a SQL platform anyhow so we could do all the analytic's we want ourselves if we wanted.

Thanks. :thumbsup

~Crashintome89~ 04-05-2016 08:33 AM

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please. Q, Bruce, or Mike Sullivan won't win the Jack Adams.


That trophy belongs to Dave Hakstol.

hailtopitt 04-05-2016 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16360627)
please. Q, Bruce, or Mike Sullivan won't win the Jack Adams.


That trophy belongs to Dave Hakstol.

he deserves an honorable mention for sure but Bruce Boudreau and Mike Sullivan have done the best coaching jobs this year

Lcsulla 04-05-2016 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 16360615)
This seems to happen every year with the Norris, which essentially goes to the best offensive defenseman. I'll put my homer hat on one more time for Letang, because he's played stellar defense along with putting up a nice point total. But others should be in the mix, too.

Yeah, they are always more concerned with offense than defense. Not to take anything away from Duncan Keith because he is truly a shutdown defense guy but I think in 2015 they focused more on his point total than his defense. The first time he won it in 2009 (in a very close race) they got it right because they balanced his amazing offense stats as well as his shut down D and having the second highest ice time in the league.


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