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IT should read

191919191919191919!!! 88!! 88!! 88!! WHATEVERTHEFUCKNUMBERPANERABREADIS!

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#blackhawkdrunk off zimas.

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:lol:lol:lol

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There is that as well plus the fact that they have qualified for the playoffs every year since 2007–08 - in addition to the 3 cups they have also made it to the conference finals twice, once loosing a well played, OT packed conference final to Detroit in 2009 and then loosing the conference final again in 2014 to LA in a wild 7 game series that needed OT to decide game 7. Also, don't count out coach Q, when it gets to crunch time he has a nice habit of pushing the right buttons.

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Take all the shots you like against Panarin but I will stack him up against Ghostfairy any day of the week.

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Losing. One O.

</wordpolice>

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We've tried. Don't bother.

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Bingo. This x a million

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Yup, and who knows what would have been in store for 2011 if it weren't for fucking Chris Campoli turning the puck over.

God damnit I hate Chris Campoli.

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Fair nuff.

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Obviously there are no guarantees but the Oilers have the best (20%) chance at the first overall pick...again. They are tied for league worst 67 pts with just 3 games remaining. Everyone else in the basement has 6 games left :lol

I hope they get it, I hope they trade it.

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How many 1st overall picks will it take for the Oilers to be relevant again?

Trick question.

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If you get the number one pick I would use it on Michael Garteig, the goalie from Quinnipiac - assuming he would leave the college for his senior year. He is a star, with him and McDavid you have a solid core to build around with trades and signing other guys!

http://www.quinnipiacbobcats.com/ros...7&path=mhockey

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Weeeeelllllllll.....

After your defense of Dunc last night. Hard to say for sure. Opinion subject to change. #garageleague

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I'm gonna go with none, because they'll never be relevant again

Sorry swordo

Do I win?

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If Edmonton gets #1, they either need to take Matthews or trade it. I wouldn't even consider taking anyone else. I love trying to think outside the box (we all know how well my Seth Jones to Avs draft idea worked out), but Matthews is such a generational talent that whether they trade the pick or take him, they're coming out on top.

If they trade it, the return could be gigantic. The Oilers could solve a few problems with that trade alone. Plus, having another generational talent in McDavid helps. Trade that #1 pick, move Yakupov, move Nugent-Hopkins if the return is right (all for defensive and goalie help), and hope that history doesn't repeat itself again.

Or, keep him. Still move Yakupov and Nuge, see how it works with Hall, and keep Eberle to verify the chemistry with McDavid continues.

I'm skeptical of the Oilers finding any sort of success as they continue to do what they're doing, but both of those options seem pretty good to me.

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Yes. If Edmonton gets #1 again, trade it for all you can. Trade some of the other guys that Matty mentioned.

In those trades, get some D-men and/or another goalie. They seem to need a better tandem than what they have.

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Fucking Kenny Albert on the call tonight

Yuck

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https://twitter.com/MarkLazerus/stat...63946656120832

:(

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ding ding ding! we have a winner.

Also would have accepted "one million" or "who cares they'll fuck it up all their picks anyway"

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He did a stupid thing in the heat of the moment as many professional athletes from all real sports do. Can you actually in all honestly you would not try to defend your player when it costs your team a key cog in a playoff position game?

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not when the player blatantly slashes another guy in the face with his stick.

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where the hell is doc emerick. this is ridiculous.

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Doc only does one game a week until playoffs. Lately it's been on Sunday.

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This. And stuff.

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Oilers already have a goalie in Cam Talbot, and if the Oilers just got the 1st overall pick this year and picked someone other than Auston Matthews, Peter Chirallei would be fired in a heartbeat.

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Good God that move by Ovie. How did that not go in?

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:thumbsup And with the second half that Talbot is having, they may be wise to stick with him as their starter. Seek to upgrade the backup situation, but that's it. I for one would be very interested to see how Talbot does with an overhauled defense in front of him.

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This has been the most confident I've seen Holtby play since the ASG

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Jason Chimera is a dirtbag.

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That wasn't any different than what Schultz and Ovechkin were doing earlier in the game

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Yeah but is he Duncan Keith level of dirt bag?

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lol okay, brohan.

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That was a fun game. Hotly was on point. Was concerned coming into this game about a Flyers 1st round matchup. Not anymore. Took Flyers a deflection and surviving 3 posts for Flyers to win.

Also super surprised Philly media gave Holtby a star

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Flyers will easily take down Caps in the first round.

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:lol :lol :lol :lol

God, Brohan. You have never changed in six years. You do you.

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Am I missing something? Caps dominated that game....we we're watching the same game, right?

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Not really sure with what logic....Caps 2-0-2 against Flyers this year

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If the Caps dominated the game then why was the score only 2-1 good guys?

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I was using your logic....which makes no sense at all.

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Brohan is probably going to mention the three posts Caps players hit tonight.

Does Brohan know that 2-0-2 and 2-2 are the same, right?

That's a .500 record

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3 posts...outside the first 5-8 minutes of the 2nd period, Caps handled that game with a lot of confidance. Caps win that game 8 out of 10 times.

Caps were missing that fire to put in the dagger when game means literally nothing

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see you in the first round, brohan.

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More on Keith, he is going to have a player safety meeting - cannot guess how this will turn out for him.

https://www.nhl.com/news/duncan-keit...?tid=277549076

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Maybe not, Flyers playing into a higher seed at this point

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It's so GD insane the turn around the Ducks put on this year. If they melted down and fired BB they would not be in the position they're in now

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No, I don't think so. There's still a debate as to who will be third in the Atlantic but I don't think we're going to be catching the Islanders or the Penguins.

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Bruins/Wings/Isles/Flyers, non of them scare me as a first round opponent. Non of those teams have a goalie that can catch fire enough to stop Caps. *Maybe* Mrazek if he can find it again but he's lost his magic from earlier in the year.

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Um, Steve Mason?

Um, Stanley Cup winner Tuuka Rask?

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Pretty sure Flyers fans last week (or two weeks ago) were saying that Nuevy was better than Mason.

And Rask is not even a shell of the shell he used to be

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Yes, dumb Flyers fans who think every goal that goes in is only due to the direct fault of the goaltender.

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Shitty night of work made better by the results of this game. Brohan thanks for being you

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Probably old news to some of you, but I just saw a tweet from a couple weeks ago saying that Jaromir Jagr has about 20 more career points than the entire current Maple Leafs roster(1,856 to 1,826). Simply obscene.

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The Caps did play pretty well last night. Brohan's not wrong about that. Holtby seems to be finding his game again. Thank god

Let's also keep in mind every single line last night had played 0 games together this season

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doug, kick him off the tour!

#happygilmore

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Um, career backup Thomas Greiss!!!

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Not trying to overshadow the point of your post (since I agree with it), but Tim Thomas was the goalie for the Bruins that playoffs. Rask only played a limited role.

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Watching that game to me told me two things.

1) The Flyers wanted it more and played that way.

2) The Caps still almost beat them while not even playing to their 100% best.

I would take the Caps over the Flyers in the first round. It would go 6 maybe 7 though.

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Talbot is awesome. There were a lot of Rangers fans that wanted him to stick around. Even some crazy ones that actually believed it was time to move on from Hank and that Cam was next in line for us.

Obviously that was crazy talk, but the point still remains that Talbot can play as long as he has a small hint of defense in front of him. I am not even sure Quick or Hank would be able to do much with the defensive situation in Edmonton.

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All of this.

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Bit slow at work, so I started thinking about some of the trades Edmonton could make to shore up that defense, like we were talking about yesterday. They have need for anyone who can slot in at 1-4. Swordo and Mike D, feel free to forward this list on to Chiarelli.

Blockbuster-type deals. You'll probably scoff at these, and rightfully so, but these are the types of deals Chiarelli could potentially LOOK FOR if he decided to trade Austin Matthews (I don't even need to call it the #1 pick, let's be honest). He'd be stupid to not at least try.
Cam Fowler
Mike Giordano
Brent Seabrook
Niklas Hjalmarsson
Alex Goligoski
Roman Josi
Brent Burns
Alex Pietrangelo
John Carlson
Karl Alzner

Other defensemen that may not be bona fide #1 guys, but could easily play top minutes. They could be the return in a Yakupov/Nuge deal, or part of a package for Matthews. These aren't guys that should be relied on to fix the problem (as the Oilers mistakenly tried with Andrew Ference), but will help them get there (as the Oilers should have treated Ference).
Sami Vatanen
Kevin Bieksa
Torey Krug
TJ Brodie
Zach Bogosian
Tyson Barrie
Brendan Smith
Erik Gudbranson
Dmitri Kulikov
Jake Muzzin
Jared Spurgeon
Keith Yandle
Dan Girardi
Travis Hamonic
Kevin Shattenkirk
Dan Hamhuis
Marc Staal
Johnny Boychuk

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noooooo not Keith Yandle :lorraine

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Yeah, they sure are on fire. Killing that OT penalty was big time hockey. My only real concern is their remaining schedule - they have 3 sets of back to back games and only 2 of them are against teams that have been eliminated, Toronto and Ottawa are the only 'should win' games that could end up being traps since neither team has anything to lose at this point. Two games against Pittsburgh, an away game against the Islanders and another road game against Detroit will all be battles.

Not sure why they did that with the lines. Seems a bit late in the season to try and find new combo's that gel - though maybe they are just testing the waters so to speak to avoid an early exit.

Was going to point this out as well.

Couple other things.

Wow - first time in over 45 years that no Canadian team will be the playoffs.

Be nice to see the Caps win a few more to both break their franchise win record and if they win 3 with Holtby in net he breaks Martin Brodeur's single season win total. It will be a footnote if they don't make some noise in the playoffs but would still be a regular season to remember because they have been the most consistent team in the league all season.

EDIT: Anyone want to place a wager on where Drouin will be playing next season?

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you trade matthews and nuge/yak for two bon a fide defensemen and you're looking at a dangerous Oilers team.

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I doubt the Hawks are going to give up Seabrook or Hjalmarsson but they are more than welcome to waste a trade or sign Rozsivall! :lol

Seriously though Rozi's not going to be in the league much longer since he is already 37 years old but a veteran presence with plenty of postseason experience. Maybe a one or two year cheap contract would be a good thing to help out the younger players.

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Yeah, like I said it would be a long shot. But if I've got Austin Matthews and I'm willing to peddle him for some defensive help, you better believe I'm going to at least give Stan Bowman a call to test the waters!

Roszival might be a signing they make shortly before or after training camp if they want a depth #7 guy for a year. But my list above has the guys they should be pursuing right out of the gate.

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For Matthews?

If stan bowman was offered that deal he would take it in a second. Not even a thought given.

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I think he would be a decent addition if they can sign him cheap since he is nearing the end of his career. He has won 2 Stanley Cups and played in 102 playoff games during his career. Adding that veteran presence as a number 7 may help an up and coming team with a lot of talent, as long as they don't botch it up with bad trades, signing guys for too long and too much or fail to retain their talented guys with bright futures - you know the things they generally do! :lol

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Sorry Fonz. Hamonic may need to go due to his trade demands but Boychuk not going anywhere. They can't trade both and the islanders record without Boychuk is indicative of what he means to this team.

Plus, Johnny Rockets is my 7 year old's favorite player. In fact, last week, he said he wants a Boychuk jersey for his birthday. He can't go.

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Maybe but I would not wager on it. Seabrook is locked up for another 7 seasons, an assistant captain and 3 time Cup winner. Edmonton would have to offer up more than Matthews and eat a ton of Seabrook's salary to pull that one off.

Almost the same situation with Hjalmarsson - he is another 3 time Cup winner, he is not even 30 years old, he is great at blocking shots and killing penalties plus he is also locked up for a few more years.

I doubt Chicago would part with Hjalmarsson but if Edmonton was willing to take on all of Seabrook's salary Bownamn might just move him to get some cap space.

Also worth noting is that both Hjalmarsson and Seabrook are members of that core 7 who has won 3 Cups with Chicago, plus they have Shaw who won 2 Cups with Chicago, Crawford who has won 2 with the Hawks and Ladd who also has 2 Cups - one with Chicago and one with Carolina. Not sure you want to break up all that experience but I doubt Ladd will be back in Chicago next season unless they can dump a few guys that can allow Ladd to stay with the Hawks while Chicago barely stays under the salary cap.

Edit: I think Edmonton would also have to throw in some first round picks to get Seabrook or Hjalmarsson.

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I've enjoyed this Flyers season since they're pretty much playing with house money. This team is playing better than it should while that future youth has gotten a year older/better at their respective levels. We all know what Ghost has done at the NHL level, Morin has done well in Lehigh and Sanheim and Provorov killed it this season in juniors.

As for forwards, man am I pleased with Schenn this season. He's finally showing some sustainability in regards to what the Flyers expected out of him.

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Yeah, what they have accomplished is pretty amazing. Truthfully, before the all star break I figured both them and Anaheim would miss the playoffs but they both turned it around in dramatic fashion.

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One other thing about the Oilers, if the NHL decides to expand they will likely be the team who is least effected by it!

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No need to apologize. Like I said, these are just calls Chiarelli would be stupid not to make. I think any GM would at least listen if Pete called saying there was a shot at Matthews. Even for Boychuk.

EDIT: Like I said, many of you will balk. But the fact of the matter is, Austin Matthews is a generational player. This ain't no Nail Yakupov. This is potential future superstar.

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Considering his talent, Austin Matthews straight up for Hjalmarsson is not an impossible deal. He's that good. We all realize the history these guys have with the Hawks and no one is saying they should be cast off. But Austin Matthews is a big get.

I can see the Hawks considering it, but eventually turning it down. They can say they're comfortable going forward with Panarin. Plus, they've got those other two superstars who they're paying $10 mil each per season. Could get awfully tight financially (even more than it is now) if they acquired Matthews as well, then had to sign him once his entry-level was up, not to mention Panarin's.

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Lol. Seabrook is not in his prime and already seems to be declining. There is no way anyone is giving up the #1 pick in return for Seabrook and his expensive salary.

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Personally if I was Edmonton I'd keep Matthews and put him on the same line as McDavid. That would be a lot of firepower on a single line to build around for a long time to come.

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He is only 30 years old and is playing some of the best hockey of his career at this point. Also, he is a shut down D man who has a cannon from the blue line when he lines it up and slaps it occasionally scoring and creating a lot of rebounds in front of the net!

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Holy fuck the Blackhawks getting Matthews on their team would be insane. They are already set up as a team that is set for the foreseeable future and having Matthews helps lengthen their future

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:thumbsup

He is the only long deal that is already looking a little rough.

He has not had the best year.

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I wouldn't trade either for Matthews straight up.

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oh my god my head is going to explode.

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Sorry hockey master of the universe.

And god of all things Blackhawks to have an opinion that does not match yours.

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I think we just have a different perspective since we have been watching all their games.

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http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20140604164553

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Just because I do not comment on every game does not mean I do not have the NHL package and follow.

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You were the one who said your head was going to explode...

Perfectly calm over here.

No panic going into the playoffs.

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:lol holy shit take it easy bro.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/52339346.jpg

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:lol:lol:lol

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On a serious note, I could see someone like Shattenkirk going for their pick. Obviously there would be more to it than that, but that would be the building blocks of that trade. Maybe Shattenkirk and the Blues 1st rounder for the #1 overall and Yakupov? Just spit-balling here.

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Should be an interesting game tonight when the Rangers visit the Hurricanes. Jordan Staal against Eric Staal on a faceoff with Mark Staal playing defense behind Eric is definitely going to be interesting. I am sure Carolina will do some sort of tribute to Eric as well and that is worth a watch. Just hope he doesn't walk into the home dressing room out of habit in his first return there. :lol

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And Viktor STAALberg.

Right?!

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Should have prefaced, I wouldn't do it straight up either. Seabrook would be the key piece coming back.

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The real discussion is if anyone will ever overtake Tim as the top poster in this thread.

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Yeah, something like this is very possible. I don't know if Yakupov would be part of the deal... they may want to save him for a separate transaction. But yes, something like Shattenkirk and a first for Matthews and something else seems ball park.
That may be one of those unbreakable Gretzky-esque records.

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did he win the cup in '10 with you guys?

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OH yeah.....He brought all the SPEED.

Also pretty sure he had the primary assist on the game winner of the first game of the playoffs in OT.

About all I remember him contributing.

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Speaking of Gretzky and records, it's thread awards season yes?

Always the best post annually

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I have it as well and watch plenty of other games. I also have a morning routine since I work from home, 20 minutes before work starts I have my coffee and read the newest articles on nhl.com and espn.com\nhl and some of the online chicago papers for blackhawks news. Very few of my friends or family care about hockey so this thread is a good place to discuss it because most of us know the difference between a slash and a spear!

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The Blues would have to give up way more. Just because the Oilers have had #1 overall a bunch in the past doesn't mean they are going to give away Matthews. Shattenkirk only has one year left on his deal after this year and he is already 27.