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bradshaw06 07-11-2013 04:58 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
wait, if the contract is void, whats to stop any team now from doing the same with a bad contract? kind of fishy...

lockman21 07-11-2013 04:59 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 14716618)
wait, if the contract is void, whats to stop any team now from doing the same with a bad contract? kind of fishy...

It's not "void", they're taking a cap hit of $250,000. I know not anything massive, but...IDK...it's strange.

Alazais 07-11-2013 05:14 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
That's wild.. My brother is a Devils fan and he's an idiot so I'm pretty happy. I feel bad for the franchise. What an asshole.

bradshaw06 07-11-2013 05:15 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
So not void in the sense that i thought.

lockman21 07-11-2013 05:20 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 14716664)
So not void in the sense that i thought.

Right. Cap hit of 250,000 until 2025 or something like that.

fonzz41 07-11-2013 05:24 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 14716558)
While I understand where JR is coming from, Kovy played for the money he got. This is a head scratcher but a bigger dick move would have to waited a couple more years and done it. Taken more of their money and the cap recapture penalty would be a lot higher.

Oh I'm not disagreeing with Roenick, I just love to see people on a rant like this :lol

Roose13 07-11-2013 06:10 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
:lol:lol

https://twitter.com/TheNHLHumor/stat...46677861195776

Roose13 07-11-2013 06:11 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wampa3 (Post 14716568)
but they bang bodies, bodies will bang! Steve Macyntire and Tanner Glass.... ummm... HOCKEY!

(this is me not having anything good to say about this situation)

So chalk that up for a victory for me ;)

Not often I can get the last word in on a Pens fan :lol Great meeting you at Camden again buddy

~Crashintome89~ 07-11-2013 11:32 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
man, Kovalchuk is going to get Bobby Clarke/Kharlamov'd at the Olympics this year by one of the Devils.

DmBand801 07-12-2013 12:02 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
I'll delve into this tomorrow, but for tonight; just wow...

fonzz41 07-12-2013 12:21 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DmBand801 (Post 14717756)
I'll delve into this tomorrow, but for tonight; just wow...

Interested in hearing your thoughts, pal.

Oh, and my condolences.

Bron Yr Aur 07-12-2013 12:59 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
This is hardly bad for the Devils. Kovalchuk had one of the worst deals in the league and is now on the wrong side of 30. This is really the best outcome they could imagine in my opinion. Yes they lose immediate production but they were not that great a team anyway. They need to rebuild and they don't have to deal with that albatross contract.

~Crashintome89~ 07-12-2013 01:22 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Are you kidding me? The Devils are screwed this year. Kovalchuk didn't have the decency to tell them before free agency? That's bullshit.

Bron Yr Aur 07-12-2013 01:26 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Yes obviously it hurts them the next couple years probably. In the long run they are much better off.

DmBand801 07-12-2013 01:51 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 14717898)
This is hardly bad for the Devils. Kovalchuk had one of the worst deals in the league and is now on the wrong side of 30. This is really the best outcome they could imagine in my opinion. Yes they lose immediate production but they were not that great a team anyway. They need to rebuild and they don't have to deal with that albatross contract.

:lol:lol

Yes, one of the league's most successful franchises hot off a run to the cup finals two years ago, and having just traded for a young franchise goaltender, should rebuild immediately....

Please. The core is still decent, and while this loss hurts a lot right now, to think the Devils are going to immediately drop to 30th place as a result of it is crazy. They still will field a decent top six, and also have tremendous depth on defense, not to mention the best goaltending tandem in the league.

It's a punch in the gut, no doubt. But, the Devils have shown year after year that they can get off the mat when dealt with this kind of adversity (Gomez, Niedermayer, Rafalski walking, Stevens retiring etc.) They are still ran by the best GM in the NHL.

~Crashintome89~ 07-12-2013 01:58 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Ant would agree that the Devils do a pretty nice job for a Mickey Mouse organization. ;)

DmBand801 07-12-2013 02:07 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 14717964)
Ant would agree that the Devils do a pretty nice job for a Mickey Mouse organization. ;)

This Kovalchuk fiasco is totally karma for me making fun of the Flyers off season moves last week :lol:lol:lol

~Crashintome89~ 07-12-2013 02:27 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Well speaking of which, the Flyers have done a lot of good things so far. The only questionable signing, money wise, is Mark Streit. But consider this, everyone is giving the Penguins flack for their cap hell--but the cap after next season will continue to go up (until the next lockout). Yes, Mark Streit got a lot of money, but Holmgren needed a puck-moving defenseman. He certainly isn't/wasn't willing to part with Couturier or Schenn and so, the only available guy out there was Streit, who in my honest opinion, will fit in nicely with a very old Timonen, an inconsistent at times Coburn, and a young Gus.

The Lecavalier signing is great. I was on the fence about him, but after hearing his conference call, I'm confident he'll be a great locker room addition. Ray Emery is the diamond in the rough. He's adding stability in net there. I like Mason, but am unconvinced. His numbers with the Flyers were interesting to say the least. The team played great defensively after they started bringing in some of the younger guys. If Lavy can re-work that with the regulars, I think the Flyers are right up there with the other teams.

I still miss Jagr though.

swordo84 07-12-2013 08:38 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
This is some wild stuff. Good riddance Kovy.

fonzz41 07-12-2013 08:54 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 14717940)
Are you kidding me? The Devils are screwed this year. Kovalchuk didn't have the decency to tell them before free agency? That's bullshit.

This is what kind of irks me about the whole thing too. I get it if the guy has family reasons or whatever. Who knows what's going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. Obviously it was pretty important if he left what, like $70 something mil on the table (which, granted, he could probably still make in the KHL). But c'mon, Kovy, you couldn't have announced it one week earlier?

Yes, long term it does give the Devils a lot more maneuverability. This year will be tough. It will be a learning year. Wouldn't be surprised to see the Devs now make a solid run at Brunner or Grabovski.

TMoore4075 07-12-2013 09:13 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 14717945)
Yes obviously it hurts them the next couple years probably. In the long run they are much better off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 14718154)
This is what kind of irks me about the whole thing too. I get it if the guy has family reasons or whatever. Who knows what's going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. Obviously it was pretty important if he left what, like $70 something mil on the table (which, granted, he could probably still make in the KHL). But c'mon, Kovy, you couldn't have announced it one week earlier?

Yes, long term it does give the Devils a lot more maneuverability. This year will be tough. It will be a learning year. Wouldn't be surprised to see the Devs now make a solid run at Brunner or Grabovski.

Yeah long term they are better off. If he was thinking about it for a while he should have made a decision a couple weeks ago. Other than that he wanted to walk away it's his right and in a way he's doing the Devils a favor doing it now. He waits any longer and starts getting the big paychecks with low cap hits, it would hurt hem a lot more. So if he wanted to leave it's better for him to do it now rather than later. Lou really should have forfeited that pick in 2012.

swordo84 07-12-2013 09:22 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
@Proteautype Note to all Professional Hockey Writers' Association members: DO NOT VOTE FOR ILYA KOVALCHUK AT ANY POSITION ON THE 2013-14 ALL-STAR TEAM.

:lol :lol

bibby1044 07-12-2013 09:22 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
As if the whole kovy story wasn't crazy enough, he waits to long to tell the team, they miss out on using that coin in FA, now they could be a bottom 15 team and have no 1st rounder to minimize the blow because of the kovy deal in the first place haha damn. Glad the flyers didn't trade for him way back when (I really wanted them too when the devils got him).

bradshaw06 07-12-2013 09:55 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
What also sucks is the devils were the only team that got penalized for circumventing the cap. And now the guy walks away.

swordo84 07-12-2013 10:20 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Bruins re-sign (extend) Bergeron for 8 years.
http://bruins.nhl.com/club/m_news.htm?id=677833

dmbwadeo 07-12-2013 10:30 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Do the Devils retain his NHL rights? He can't come back in 2 years and sign with Philly or something?

dduncan6er 07-12-2013 10:40 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Love the Bergeron deal. Fair cap hit and he's the captain in waiting. Hope he remains a Bruin the rest of his career.

DmBand801 07-12-2013 11:30 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 14718235)
Yeah long term they are better off. If he was thinking about it for a while he should have made a decision a couple weeks ago. Other than that he wanted to walk away it's his right and in a way he's doing the Devils a favor doing it now. He waits any longer and starts getting the big paychecks with low cap hits, it would hurt hem a lot more. So if he wanted to leave it's better for him to do it now rather than later. Lou really should have forfeited that pick in 2012.

Lou went hard after forwards after losing Parise with the 2012 draft pick, which I couldn't fault the guy for. Hindsight is 20/20 regarding the 29th overall pick in 2012.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbwadeo (Post 14718548)
Do the Devils retain his NHL rights? He can't come back in 2 years and sign with Philly or something?

Per Devils beat writer Tom Gulitti:

Quote:

*For now, the Devils retain Kovalchuk’s NHL rights, but it’s kind of complicated and it’s not forever.

*If Kovalchuk chose to un-retire and try to return to the NHL at some point, per NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly, there are rules “way too detailed for me to try to summarize.” One of them is that “for a certain period of time” Kovlachuk would have to get the permission of all 30 NHL teams to play in the league again.

lockman21 07-12-2013 11:59 AM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 14718276)
@Proteautype Note to all Professional Hockey Writers' Association members: DO NOT VOTE FOR ILYA KOVALCHUK AT ANY POSITION ON THE 2013-14 ALL-STAR TEAM.

:lol :lol

:lol:lol:lol:lol

Roose13 07-12-2013 12:33 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Just shattered my hopes and dreams of Bergeron in the orange and black :lol:lol


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