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lockman21 02-16-2012 04:19 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 13353020)
Agree to disagree then, my friend. I feel he may be overpaid, yes. But doing what he's done for such a crappy team ain't bad. Plus the way he's rounded out his game over the past 3-4 seasons to become a jack-of-all-trades type guy (i.e. penalty kill). Plus, his natural skill set... which is about as dynamic as it comes. The guy can skate, he's big, and he has one of the top 5 wrist shots in the game. Simply lethal. I'd love to see what he could do with some linemates like Datsyuk and Franzen.

And although he hasn't done anything in the NHL playoffs, he proved during these last olympics that he can play on the big boy stage.

Obviously, I'm a Nash fan :lol

Right, I mean, like I said, he is a great player, I just don't see him as being "elite". He's not on that level of Datsyuk/Toews/Malkin/etc., yet he's being paid to be.

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13353028)
It would be one of the few "dumb" ones in terms of salary and length. Even when they throwing away money pre-lockout there wasn't any like that. The cap for next year is what would be the big ?. With Nash and minus Filppula for arguments sake, they would still have 19mil in cap space based off this years cap. They would still need to replace/re-sign Lidstrom but they could in theory pull it off. Will they? I don't think so. Would the Jackets send him 3 hours north up US-23? Probably not.

Yeah, I just don't see it. It's very "un-Red Wings-like" to pick up that contract. They pick up guys that take less money just so they can play in Detroit, I wouldn't see them taking on a contract like that.

dduncan6er 02-16-2012 04:19 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
He's definitely well within the top 250.

lockman21 02-16-2012 04:20 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13353054)
He's definitely well within the top 250.

Well, only when he's not triple teamed.

fonzz41 02-16-2012 04:26 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13353053)
Right, I mean, like I said, he is a great player, I just don't see him as being "elite". He's not on that level of Datsyuk/Toews/Malkin/etc., yet he's being paid to be.

I can agree with that :thumbsup ... I have to wonder, though, if playing on an elite team would put him up there with those guys. Like's been discussed, the potential is definitely there. And the common denominator on all three guys you mentioned is they have played and do play for great teams.
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Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13353054)
He's definitely well within the top 250.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13353057)
Well, only when he's not triple teamed.

Well played, fellas. :lol:lol:lol:lol

TMoore4075 02-16-2012 04:39 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13353053)
Yeah, I just don't see it. It's very "un-Red Wings-like" to pick up that contract. They pick up guys that take less money just so they can play in Detroit, I wouldn't see them taking on a contract like that.

Who I'd like to see is Selanne. But the stupid Ducks are playing well now. He would be the perfect rental for this team. You could even put him on the 3rd line with Helm and Cleary. If the Wings make BIG moves it'll be offseason. IE Suter, Parise or the like.

lockman21 02-16-2012 05:34 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Ovie does not approve, and neither do I.

http://i.imgur.com/SHwBm.jpg

lockman21 02-16-2012 05:35 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13353131)
Who I'd like to see is Selanne. But the stupid Ducks are playing well now. He would be the perfect rental for this team. You could even put him on the 3rd line with Helm and Cleary. If the Wings make BIG moves it'll be offseason. IE Suter, Parise or the like.

Ugh, I don't want to hate Parise...keep him out of the Joe. :lol

lockman21 02-16-2012 05:47 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Here ya go, ya filthy animals:

BREAKING: The Stars have traded Nicklas Grossman to Philadelphia in exchange for a 2nd-round pick in 2012 and a 3rd-round pick in 2013.

bonzo48280 02-16-2012 06:39 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
teh domino effectzzzz!!!<1m1<>1!!!

DMBCubs25 02-16-2012 06:46 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Fuck, wanted the Hawks to go after him.

lockman21 02-16-2012 07:01 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I'd rather have Kubina.

bonzo48280 02-16-2012 07:06 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I'd rather win a game.

EDIT: and there are 5, FIVE, Anaheim scouts at this game tonight.

coyne 02-16-2012 07:11 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
have a bad feeling about this one but lets go rangers

DMBCubs25 02-16-2012 07:13 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Well that's a start.

salrx95 02-16-2012 07:13 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coyne (Post 13353683)
have a bad feeling about this one but lets go rangers

must really have a bad feeling now.

s0628711 02-16-2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coyne (Post 13353683)
have a bad feeling about this one but lets go rangers

Same. Worsened by a penalty shot goal in the first minute, obviously. Oh well, go NYR!

lockman21 02-16-2012 07:14 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Leddy = real deal.

Fuck the haters.

s0628711 02-16-2012 07:15 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Ugh. Wort start of the season???

DMBCubs25 02-16-2012 07:15 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
He's good offensively and has a nice shot.

lockman21 02-16-2012 07:16 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DMBCubs25 (Post 13353703)
He's good offensively and has a nice shot.

He's 20. His defensive game will develop.

lockman21 02-16-2012 07:16 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I have a boner.

coyne 02-16-2012 07:17 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
not allowing +4 goals all season in serious danger

edit: not like that record matters haha

salrx95 02-16-2012 07:19 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Man, Scott hit him late. Loved it, though.

He's a big man, btw.

DMBCubs25 02-16-2012 07:20 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13353705)
He's 20. His defensive game will develop.

Yup, that's the good part. Didn't have the advantage that Keith and Seabrook had going through their growing pains when the team was in the cellar 8 years ago.

s0628711 02-16-2012 07:24 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
What the fuck was that from Scott?? Late as hell and an interference even if the whistle wasn't blown.

lockman21 02-16-2012 07:26 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s0628711 (Post 13353731)
What the fuck was that from Scott?? Late as hell and an interference even if the whistle wasn't blown.

He's a moron. Don't ask.

lockman21 02-16-2012 07:28 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
God I wanna make out with everyone in the whole world.

coyne 02-16-2012 07:29 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
at this pace its going to be 24-0

DMBCubs25 02-16-2012 07:31 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I feel like I'm going to wake up in 10 minutes and realize it's this morning still.

s0628711 02-16-2012 07:33 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Ew. C'mon biron. Two five holes? And 1 shot in a 4 minute pp? Yikes.

The only thing biron is doing is hurting his trade value and helping henriks vezina case :lol


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