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Roose13 01-09-2012 06:11 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Datsyuk's game winner last night was redonk

Roose13 01-09-2012 06:14 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I couldn't imagine being the kid who paralyzes another athlete. Hockey is such a fast game and it's so unfortunate these things happen. As for the paralyzed player, there is nothing worse to hear than having the thing you love taken away and told you could never do it again, let alone the fact his life will forever be altered.

TMoore4075 01-09-2012 06:31 AM

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So the vote by player reps for the realignment was 28-2. The two teams? Detroit and Columbus. Big shock. But Winnipeg voted for it? Really? The SE is better for you? Some of the stuff they are saying is find it fair for everyone and with the travel. Well Western teams shouldn't care really cause it'll be easier travel. The Pacific teams might have longer ones but that's it there. It levels the playing field in terms of who travels and who doesn't. And the playoff thing, yeah you are playing with 8 teams instead of 7 in some divisions but top 4 is top 4. They also say it's not CBA posturing? Yeah right. Paul Kelly, former head of the PA, laughed because the players wanted to have a home and home with every team following the lockout and the NHL said no cause the only was more games. Well now they get a home and home and the players don't want it? This is the best way to make it as level as possible. Unless they go to like 84 games again.

TMoore4075 01-09-2012 07:17 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Arniel fired in Cbus. That whole organization is a cluster f**k. It's too bad cause if they could get it together I think it could work there.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 01:05 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Absolute shit show going on between Vancouver and Boston management since Saturday. I love it. And vignault has to be the biggest hypocrite in the league and I love that julien called him out on it.

swordo84 01-09-2012 01:24 PM

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Another tough season to sit through :(

DMBCubs25 01-09-2012 01:26 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Elaine Vigenault and the Canucks are a complete joke.

TMoore4075 01-09-2012 01:26 PM

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I know we've been saying it for 3 years now but they have a bright future.

swordo84 01-09-2012 01:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13246760)
I know we've been saying it for 3 years now but they have a bright future.

Fuck, tell me about it! :lol I know it's cliche, but injuries have really hurt the cause again this year. I guess as long as we aren't drafting 1st overall thats a plus...right?....right? Playoffs seem like such a distant, unreachable dream right now.

TMoore4075 01-09-2012 02:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 13246784)
Fuck, tell me about it! :lol I know it's cliche, but injuries have really hurt the cause again this year. I guess as long as we aren't drafting 1st overall thats a plus...right?....right? Playoffs seem like such a distant, unreachable dream right now.

The only downside to all the high picks, if they all work out it'll be hard to keep them all. So I guess pray for what happened to the Hawks and win it quickly before the entry level deals are up.

Rebecca De Mornay 01-09-2012 02:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13245778)
Arniel fired in Cbus. That whole organization is a cluster f**k. It's too bad cause if they could get it together I think it could work there.

I used to think this too but I'm losing faith pretty quickly. Nobody likes hockey here, Ohio State has one of the best men's teams in the country and there is literally nobody talking about it. The team will stick around for a while because they are now tax-payer subsidized by the city but boy will it be brutal to watch

TMoore4075 01-09-2012 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 13246847)
I used to think this too but I'm losing faith pretty quickly. Nobody likes hockey here, Ohio State has one of the best men's teams in the country and there is literally nobody talking about it. The team will stick around for a while because they are now tax-payer subsidized by the city but boy will it be brutal to watch

It's just hard to tell when the team isn't good. I'd like to see them even like a Nashville team where they are in the playoffs almost every year.

UCFish 01-09-2012 02:23 PM

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Just heard Sharp out 3-4 weeks on the radio.....not good

Rebecca De Mornay 01-09-2012 02:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13246859)
It's just hard to tell when the team isn't good. I'd like to see them even like a Nashville team where they are in the playoffs almost every year.

Well we may never find out :lol

I just think that if there was any interest in hockey here there would be some excitement brewing for the college team.

TMoore4075 01-09-2012 02:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 13246918)
Well we may never find out :lol

I just think that if there was any interest in hockey here there would be some excitement brewing for the college team.

Since I think the Coyotes would end up in Quebec, Seattle may be calling for them. lol

swordo84 01-09-2012 02:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13246837)
The only downside to all the high picks, if they all work out it'll be hard to keep them all. So I guess pray for what happened to the Hawks and win it quickly before the entry level deals are up.

Agreed, but we should be able to keep most. I mean the Pens have Crosby, Malkin and Fleury under big deals. Chicago has Toews, Kane etc. We should be able to keep **most anyway. I already hate envisioning the team without any of Eberle, Hall or RNH

TMoore4075 01-09-2012 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 13246975)
Agreed, but we should be able to keep most. I mean the Pens have Crosby, Malkin and Fleury under big deals. Chicago has Toews, Kane etc. We should be able to keep **most anyway. I already hate envisioning the team without any of Eberle, Hall or RNH

RNH has been very impressive. If I had to keep one it might be him. But yeah they can make it work. It'll be the support cast which will be more work. Just if they want a stacked team they'd need to do it fast like the Hawks. They knew what they were doing in the summer of 09.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 03:30 PM

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5 games for marchand. :lol

fonzz41 01-09-2012 03:46 PM

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That was definitely clipping, albeit a very cool hit. By the suspensions Shanny's doled out lately, I'm surprised it wasn't less games. It's quite obvious Salo's apparent injury on the play was a big factor in this one.

This to me is where the line gets blurry... seems to me the question needs to be more widely considered, at what point does supplemental discipline need to be looked at by the league, and at what point do you let it be handled in game by the on-ice officials?

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 03:52 PM

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When I saw the replay I agree its a dirty hit. However I don't think it deserves 5 games. Hits like that occur fairly often and I've never seen a suspension for them. Hell half of then dont even get called for penalties.

TMoore4075 01-09-2012 03:52 PM

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Yeah I mean he got a pretty serious penalty in game so it's tough. I agree where do we draw the line. It's not like he didn't get a penalty in the game. Had that been the case I'd have no problem with the suspension.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 04:00 PM

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Take a look at this video. The inconsistency on hits of this nature are hilarious. One isn't penalized and the other is a 5 minute major, game misconduct, and a 5 game suspension.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10scJ...layer_embedded

DMBCubs25 01-09-2012 04:09 PM

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Leave it to Gillis and Vigneault to whine enough to the league so they coddle the Canucks. Never does that group of douchebags ever have to stand up for their diving, whining, and hair pulling. At least they have never won a cup and never will.

Bron Yr Aur 01-09-2012 04:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 13246902)
Just heard Sharp out 3-4 weeks on the radio.....not good

Not at all, especially at a time when we are really, really struggling. The team has looked pretty bad lately. Defense back to being bad, goaltending back to being sub-par. Basically we're back to the mediocre team of last season because our depth is mostly injured. Kruger, Carcillo, Montador...underrated members of the team that I think we miss quite a bit. Losing Sharp makes us a 1-line team again, just like last year.

bonzo48280 01-09-2012 05:05 PM

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The difference between the Mason Raymond hit and the Marchand hit is that Raymond made a play on the puck and ducked to avoid a check. Marchand deliberately avoided the puck and hit Salo low when he was in no danger of getting hit like Raymond was.

It's spot on, Marchand totally deserves to be suspended and Raymond did not. Marchand's suspension could be a tad long, but that's not that big of an issue to me.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 05:09 PM

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How was Marchand in no danger of getting hit?

bonzo48280 01-09-2012 05:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13247302)
How was Marchand in no danger of getting hit?

Getting hit in a dangerous way I should say. Just because Salo was going to check him if he would have made a proper play for the puck, doesn't mean Marchand can puss out and take out his knees and not even make a play for the puck.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 05:12 PM

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And for the record I'm not trying to turn this into a complete clusterfuck of an argument. I just don't see how one hit isn't penalized and the other is a 5 minute major, game misconduct and a 5 game suspension. Both guys ducked when they saw a hit coming. If one hit is a major penalty and suspension the other should be as well.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 05:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 13247307)
Getting hit in a dangerous way I should say. Just because Salo was going to check him if he would have made a proper play for the puck, doesn't mean Marchand can puss out and take out his knees and not even make a play for the puck.

The puck is at Marchand's feet. He ducked the hit and was going to have control of the puck. Both guys ducked on hits. I don't see how it's any different.

bonzo48280 01-09-2012 05:17 PM

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One guy makes a play on a puck and commits a counter check, and the other makes no move for the puck and takes out someones knees. Just because they look the same doesn't mean they are the same situation.

Raymond is avoiding a check and the way (Marchand? Can't remember who got checked by Raymond) falls and the way Raymond ducks is just the way the play went. There is no reason for Marchand to make the check he did, especially as he is making no effort to go for the puck.


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