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fonzz41 02-06-2015 11:11 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15806223)
That hit wasn't much of one, plus MacKinnon turned into it but you gotta stand up for yourself. Showed how strong on his skates he is cause Ericsson was trying to force him down a few times.

I have very little problem with what Ericsson did. I especially appreciate that he visibly tried to let up once he realized MacKinnon was in a compromising position. It's one of those where in the heat of the game, when Mac feels the elbow on the back of his head, that he felt it was cheap. But he'll go back and watch the film and go, "meh, not so bad."

But I love that passion from Mac, willing to take on the big guy.

TMoore4075 02-06-2015 11:26 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15806653)
I have very little problem with what Ericsson did. I especially appreciate that he visibly tried to let up once he realized MacKinnon was in a compromising position. It's one of those where in the heat of the game, when Mac feels the elbow on the back of his head, that he felt it was cheap. But he'll go back and watch the film and go, "meh, not so bad."

But I love that passion from Mac, willing to take on the big guy.

Kronwall did that with the McLeod last year. Turned into it and then afterwards blamed himself. Fox Sports Detroit showed that clip right after it to compare. Only difference was the speed of McLeod compared to Ericsson just kinda being there.

lockman21 02-06-2015 11:27 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15806117)
Agree with both Barbs and Chris, re: Kane. He'd make a GREAT Flyer, eh?

Speaking of, Timmo is the epitome of a hockey player.

:lol I'm sure they're looking at adding that $5.25 mil cap hit. Him and Lecavalier on the same line would be magic.

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15806605)
If Evander Kane ever puts on a jersey with the Flyers crest on it, I give up.

I can't see a way it could possibly happen...but...

~Crashintome89~ 02-06-2015 11:53 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 15806466)
More on Kane, the problem with trying to trade him now is that is was placed on the IR, and is one phone call away from season-ending surgery. Does he get traded? That's almost a certainty. Does it happen before the end of the year? Who knows...




He's been a great team-player this year, up until this week. A self-proclaimed 50 goal scorer playing on the 3rd line and hasn't complained/bitched about it once. The whole team has (had?) bought into the team-first mentatlity and that's why they are making the playoff push that they are. It's such a weird, weird situation.

I don't see the massive amount of potential Evander Kane apparently has. All I see is a me-me-me guy who has an attitude problem. The money phone was stupid and immature, but when you have management constantly coming out with words about how you need to step up, and it hasn't happned--time for the 'Peg to ship him out and get as much as they can.

He's playing third line right now, right? Brilliant. Ship him out, get some young pieces and go forward. The Jets don't have the time or patience to keep him around any longer.

barbogast 02-06-2015 11:58 AM

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I think the potential really is there, he's shown flashes of true brilliance at times. But that's all it is. Unrealized potential. Mix in the attitude, and it's clearly not worth it

TMoore4075 02-06-2015 12:03 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Rumors of Myers to the Ducks out there now. Take him. I don't want to give up what they'd want with a guy who is such a big question mark to me. I want the Wings to go for it but the East is so wide open they could make a big move and still lose in round 1 and if Myers fails and then you got your young talent playing against you 5-6 times a year in Buffalo. No way.

Roose13 02-06-2015 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by socopithy (Post 15806073)
He's not a machine, he's stupid.

:ugh:twak

barbogast 02-06-2015 12:06 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Tyler Myers sounds like a perfect d man to play on a Boudreau run team. Fully ineffective when it counts

lockman21 02-06-2015 12:06 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15806759)
I don't see the massive amount of potential Evander Kane apparently has. All I see is a me-me-me guy who has an attitude problem. The money phone was stupid and immature, but when you have management constantly coming out with words about how you need to step up, and it hasn't happned--time for the 'Peg to ship him out and get as much as they can.

He's playing third line right now, right? Brilliant. Ship him out, get some young pieces and go forward. The Jets don't have the time or patience to keep him around any longer.

His cap hit is just absurd, that's what makes this thing so difficult.

No one wanted to take on Mike Richards cap hit for literally NOTHING, a past captain, proven winner, SC champ, etc....who is going to want to take on 4 years at $5.25 mil of an underperformer with a massive attitude problem?

~Crashintome89~ 02-06-2015 12:06 PM

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I still laugh when I think about the time the Sabres thought they could pull Anthony Manthra out of the Red Wings system for Tyler Myers. :lol :lol

Good times.

hailtopitt 02-06-2015 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 15806800)
Tyler Myers sounds like a perfect d man to play on a Boudreau run team. Fully ineffective when it counts

:lol:lol

~Crashintome89~ 02-06-2015 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15806801)
His cap hit is just absurd, that's what makes this thing so difficult.

No one wanted to take on Mike Richards cap hit for literally NOTHING, a past captain, proven winner, SC champ, etc....who is going to want to take on 4 years at $5.25 mil of an underperformer with a massive attitude problem?

Exactly. That cap hit. The fact that he's only had a career high of 57 points. Attitude problem. I can't see any players wanting Evander Kane on their team unless they're friends with him already.

And with regards to Richards, yeah proven winner and all that. But even more so, the leadership he brought to the Kings. I mean Sarah will attest to the time in 2012 when people thought the Kings were going to drop Brown and give the C to Richards.

lockman21 02-06-2015 12:17 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15806812)
Exactly. That cap hit. The fact that he's only had a career high of 57 points. Attitude problem. I can't see any players wanting Evander Kane on their team unless they're friends with him already.

And with regards to Richards, yeah proven winner and all that. But even more so, the leadership he brought to the Kings. I mean Sarah will attest to the time in 2012 when people thought the Kings were going to drop Brown and give the C to Richards.

Yep. So unless Winnipeg is willing to eat some of that cap...I don't see him going many places. Maybe they'll eat $2mil/yr or something just to get him out.

kev87lads 02-06-2015 12:24 PM

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Just saw a tweet from NYPost Larry Brooks that Lundqvist out a month or more....

hailtopitt 02-06-2015 12:28 PM

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you know who isn't out for a month? Jonathan Quick

BOOM

~Crashintome89~ 02-06-2015 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15806869)
you know who isn't out for a month? Jonathan Quick

BOOM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...rite-song-.jpg

hailtopitt 02-06-2015 12:34 PM

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:lol:lol

~Crashintome89~ 02-06-2015 12:38 PM

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Kane elects to have surgery. Out four to six months.

hailtopitt 02-06-2015 12:39 PM

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dayyyyyum

well, there goes an in-season trade

barbogast 02-06-2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15806875)

:lol

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15806897)
Kane elects to have surgery. Out four to six months.

Well, guess that ends that conversation

~Crashintome89~ 02-06-2015 12:41 PM

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it's basically a big FU to the organization. It was his decision. Fine by them, I'm sure. Means he's not in the locker room and probably has played his last game with them.

hailtopitt 02-06-2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15806912)
it's basically a big FU to the organization. It was his decision. Fine by them, I'm sure. Means he's not in the locker room and probably has played his last game with them.

yep, he'll be the big Draft Day trade if i had to guess

TMoore4075 02-06-2015 01:19 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15806802)
I still laugh when I think about the time the Sabres thought they could pull Anthony Manthra out of the Red Wings system for Tyler Myers. :lol :lol

Good times.

Yeah. Sure a guy who hasn't done anything for a few years for possibly the other teams best prospect. Yeah I'll get right on that.
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Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 15806852)
Just saw a tweet from NYPost Larry Brooks that Lundqvist out a month or more....

Ouch, ouch, ouch.
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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15806869)
you know who isn't out for a month? Jonathan Quick

BOOM

LOL
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15806897)
Kane elects to have surgery. Out four to six months.

Peace out dude.

Roose13 02-06-2015 01:33 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 15806852)
Just saw a tweet from NYPost Larry Brooks that Lundqvist out a month or more....

Quote:

Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15806869)
you know who isn't out for a month? Jonathan Quick

BOOM

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15806875)

One of the best 1-2-3 punches this thread has ever seen :lol:lol

kev87lads 02-06-2015 01:33 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15806869)
you know who isn't out for a month? Jonathan Quick

BOOM

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15806875)

Well done by both of you.

TheLastPig 02-06-2015 01:52 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Usa today most overrated NHL players. Agree with this list. Sutter has been awful since the playoffs last year. Brooks Orpik has awful advanced stats, Quick hasn't been himself at all this year, same goes for Simmonds.



http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/02/nhl-...rdi-sutter-ott

Roose13 02-06-2015 02:00 PM

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I don't get Simmonds on the list. Who think he's more than a complimentary player? He's "rated" (by whomever is in charge that crap) just right.

TheLastPig 02-06-2015 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 15807129)
I don't get Simmonds on the list. Who think he's more than a complimentary player? He's "rated" (by whomever is in charge that crap) just right.

As a whole, Simmonds isn't overrated. Would love t have him on the Pens. But if we're looking just at this season, he hasn't been nearly as effective as the past 2 years

~Crashintome89~ 02-06-2015 02:11 PM

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"Thinking of Simmonds as anything but a complementary player is believing that he can carry a team, though. Simmonds has yet to develop into an even-strength force, which is where the majority of the game is played."

Okay?

I don't understand the author's reasoning by putting him on there.

If I had to say off the top of my list who is overrated: Ryan Miller, Vincent Lecavalier, Scott Hartnell, and Marc Andre Fleury.

barbogast 02-06-2015 02:13 PM

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I'll go ahead and take issue with that list too. Orpik has done, quite frankly, a great job this year. He's provided exactly what the Caps have been missing the last several years, physical presence in the d zone and a good ability to control and clear the slot area for the goalies. Not to mention the shot blocking and the hitting. The article cites fancy stats and possession numbers, here's what the eye test says. The Caps problem has never been staying in the offensive zone. It's been getting out of the defensive zone. A new coaching approach, plus the addition of a couple defenseman who actually excel at playing in the defensive end, and voila. Keep the fancy stats.

The problem with Orpik will be in years 3, 4 and 5 of that contract. That's when it will feel like he was way overpaid, bad deal, etc, but for now Brooks has really improved the look of the Caps quite significantly.


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