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Hahaha that was so bizarre but we were so excited for new music and that small clip of music was such great PR…we didn’t care about the awkwardness at that point

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Ahahaha!! Just the way you phrased this. Well played. :lol

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Melody and music are more important than lyrics. You could have amazing lyrics but it the song doesn't sound good it's not a good song.

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Lyrics have very little importance to me. I just want it to sound good.

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Yeah at that time when it first came out it was great. Looking back on it, it was so so weird haha. The awkward dancing and Dave’s awkward grin from the corner.

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My perspective as well (as I've often stated).

But there's about as much agreement on what constitutes a good sounding song as there is about which of Dave's lyrics are good (or bad). I love the music for the song Come Tomorrow, regardless of the lyrics. Most of the folks that hate the song complain about the lyrics.

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Melody does matter to me more than lyrics overall but certain progressions need to have at least half decent lyrics to work. Songs like WWYS, SMTS, BOWA are interesting and melodic enough where they don't need deep lyrics written over them to work, a repeating progression like Seek Up and Dreaming Tree pop because of the storytelling and imagery much more than the instrumentation.

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:lol:lol:lol I hope we're at that point.

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Some of the harshest, most scholarly critics this place has of DMB gave that Grux clip a standing ovation when that video was made public.

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Saw something on Twitter about some new DMB news possibly coming out soon but it doesn’t look like that’s the case. See y’all in a few weeks!

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Why do you say it doesn't look like that's the case? Most recent rumors that I've seen seem to suggest some news may be coming next week.

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ummmmm...lyrics matter. Shotty lyrics just make me cringe

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I never thought of Dave as this amazing lyricist, he's good sometimes but when he's on, he averages out as maybe above average in rock history.

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I’m guessing 18th or 25th.

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He isn't really, he's off the charts in other ways

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The Only Thing doesn't get enough praise. Sounds really good.

Couple of cringe lyrics, but overall, feel good tune with some funk. Better than She, for those who compare it.

Madman's Eyes is great, Walk around the moon is good too. Only cringe part in WATM is the "You-a-who-who"

Think this album will be good.

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I’ve always considered Dave an exceptional lyricist. I like his style.

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:thumbsup

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What happens first, we learn what LT59 is or we get the announcement from the Warehouse a new album is on the way? Assuming we also get the album’s name in that announcement.

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I did like his style, but he’s got so much cheese on his lyrics now it can be embarrassing.

His style of writing up through BS was awesome; I love it. But his ability to be poetic with his lyrics was brutally destroyed by Ballard (though I do think ED has aged well and I do like the album better than anything they’ve put out since).

His wordiness on the big 3 worked because it was filled with imagery and metaphors, and it had good meter, flow, and rhyme schemes (when needed and not forced)… since Ballard it has all been stripped down to “say exactly what you’re thinking in a few words as possible”. To me, that just isn’t very interesting.

There are flashes of that old style here and there, but for the most part the songwriting and especially the lyrics have not recovered.


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I can get on board with this. My only disagreement with this post is that while I really dig everyday, I do prefer the little red bird ep.

Age and $300 million might water some things down.

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Write a song, beach ball, and little red bird are better than most of big whiskey haha. I still listen to those 3 regularly. The live version with the jam on beach ball is one of best things they ahhave done since that album release.

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Agreed Dave's selection of songs for the album and or fear of vulnerable songs is what frustrates me. Post Ballard he has some well written songs like the 3 you mentioned and:

Shotgun, Break Free, Break For It, A Dream So Real, Kill The King, Lying in the Hands of God, The Riff, Broken Things, Black & Bluebird, Bismark, Virginia in the Rain, Sugar Will etc.

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IMO, the only 4 songs that we know that should be on the new album are:

The Only Thing
Madman's Eyes
Walk around the moon
Bismark

Ocean could also fit potentially? Rest are too old to bring back at this point.

I also don't get the dream so real fandom. Very boring IMO, but to each their own. Jackpot is better.

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And pretty much all of these are examples where his “wordiness” worked really well. No surprise that these are also my favorites that they’ve played since his style-shift.


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My hope is that if the album is really coming out in Q2 (and before June), that we should get pretty much everything from the announcement. Album name, cover art, tracklist, pre-order packages etc. Because 1.) they’ve had most of the album done for over a year, there shouldn’t be much last minute scrambling; and 2.) it would be releasing in April or May so really just a few months from now, it should be somewhat finalized.

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Ocean and Singing From the Windows could potentially be on it, and both are probably more likely than Bismarck (as much as I would love to have Bismarck)

There's also four titles out there for songs that we haven't heard yet.

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I love A Dream So Real. Always did since it debuted in '07. Love Roi's work on it. Love we have it on LT42 finally.

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Hanson just announced a world tour and three new albums in one to celebrate their 30 years as a band. Time for DMB to get with the program.

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LT42 is underrated. That Loving Wings with I Dream of Jeannie interpolation is also a big highlight for me, and the extended If I Had It All.

I don't think we'll be seeing ADSR on the new album but the whiteboard shows us they at least revisited it.