New Album Coming in One Week!
The last new album thread was locked because it was full of a ton of fake information...but Dave just said during the Farm Aid stream that he is in Cville (presumably Haunted Hollow) writing/recording with Carter. I suppose that these sessions could potentially go into the vault, never to be heard, but for now, let's assume/hope that a new album comes of them soon.
I am excited to hear that Dave and Carter are writing together (instead of Dave alone which yields songs like TGIY). |
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Singing From the Windows is a fantastic song. I would think that would be part of that session.
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Ima be a the dick and point out that there was no mention of recording. They could be jamming outside (like on a porch) or in any space where there is space...
They could have been recording as much they wanted to at this point. The Barenaked Ladies went back into the studio months ago. Joe Kwon went back to NC from CA more than two weeks early so he could quarantine before practicing and performing w/ the Avetts at their raceway concert. Again, the band owes us nothing, but if they wanted to record and/or perform they could. The easiest thing they could do is just release some of the two or so albums worth of complete and recorded, but that's seemingly not on their radar. |
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I hope it's more Sessions where they are messing around and maybe float 1 unreleased song in 2021. These new albums keep screwing up the current era setlist flow.
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As to the main topic of the thread, YES PLEASE to a new album.
I want to hear more from the band, more stuff that I'm either less familiar with or (ideally) I've never heard before. The hope is that it grab us and we love it, but it'll get an objective listen as always. They've laid a coupla eggs thus far, so there's no guarantee of quality. As fans of CT, we haven't had any issues w/ the new tunes in sets...it's the ED and SU tunes that present an issue for me (less so for my wife, but she'd rather hear other stuff too). |
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The band is way past peak from a musical and lyrical standpoint. The title song Come Tomorrow had a lot of potential but lyrically was subpar. Musically it puts me (and other people to sleep) at the live show. Not to mention the best songs from Come Tomorrow weren't played live often 2018 forward (virginia in the rain, black and bluebird, idea of you). Case in point of why they shouldn't drop a new album is 2014-16. They floated some experimental songs like death on the high seas and bismark which were awesome and cut some of AFTW out to allow for classics to come back. Pre Covid they were doing that with the vegas and AZ shows. To have a new album that would flood setlists instead of classic songs coming back (including from AFTW in the riff and drunken soldier) would horrible. Dave can't write like he used to and anything post roi from a musicality standpoint has been inconsistent. |
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Doesn’t Dave spend a vast majority of his time in WA now? I think the fact he was in VA is telling but who knows.
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I wonder if the songs they're working on right now will be a part of the sessions reportedly happening before the pandemic.
Definitely wanting a full band Singing From The Windows, could be even more powerful with Carter laying down a groove- hopefully not the Mercy route. |
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Studio Bismarck, and more sax please
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No interest in a new album if it is Batson based or anywhere near as bad as CT is
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I'd be really excited for a new album, would like a few aggressive and powerful songs. A lot of us have commented on him shifting to dad rock now that he is comfortable in life and married with kids but you'd think there is enough going on in the world to be pissed off about to write some darker songs.
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Do we really want them jamming a full band song about the 2020 quarantine in say, 2025? I don’t think singing from the windows is the kind of songs they need to be working on full band. It’s quite clearly a COVID-19 song. Keep it as such by playing it for these live at home shows. Beautiful song, but it is what it is. Am I the only one who feels this way?
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But what I really hope for is an entire Rob Cavallo record. Bismarck, DOTHS, Sugar Will and another 10 brand new tunes with Rob. |
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Cry Freedom is also a better song than most songs |
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Yes I agree |
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It depends though, the songs off SU are better live than CT, CT is a better album than SU. Not many of the songs people want on a new album are great live songs but would make for a great listen on an album, DoTHS for example. I agree with your general point for the most part but they don't necessarily go hand in hand. |
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4 pretty good-to-great live cuts that people want on a new album. I'm hesitant to throw in Sugar Will, just because I know the fan-base is rather split on the tune in the live setting. |
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Rumor is Boyd is also there w/ Dave & Carter....
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I love the song on live recordings. I can understand how in the moment, at a show, it may sap some energy out of the setlist flow. The repetitive (and, on occasion, drawn out) intro and no "peak" in the song can be a bit of a snoozer for folks. |
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I'd absolutely love Kill the King on a new album, have always thought Break Free is overrated, indifferent about Bismarck, Crazy Easy is the cats tits. I'd trade Break Free for Run While We Can / Break for It which I'm sure is probably a less common preference. Sugar Will was the best song from the last very mediocre DMB show I saw |
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For the record, I have no desire for Boyd to rejoin DMB ever again. His inability to play his instrument and lack of giving a fuck about his craft should disqualify him from ever coming back. I'd be cool with a violin, but not Boyd. Though the violin returning to DMB is about as likely as Boyd being a part of the Dave and Carter jam sessions. |
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Writing new material != new album
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Even though Dave said he was writing with Carter, I still hope Kill the King and Break Free still have a chance to be worked on for the next album. IF they don't copy/paste like on CT. Speaking of insiders..... anybody have anything new to add about what's happening? :D |
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Sugarwill is the shit.
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If we get a new album and its a mash up of old and new my ideal album would be something like this.
Bismarck Break Free Death on the High Seas Sugar Will Crazy Easy Good Good Time 6-8 new tunes Jeff being prominently featured as the primary soloist. |
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Disagree 100% If they only played the best 5 songs from AFTW and skipped the mediocre songs sets would be vastly different. Same with Come Tomorrow. Same goes for Everyday. Dave post roi has had a habit of not playing his best songs often like Broken Things, The Riff, Drunken Soldier, Black and Bluebird, Virginia in the Rain, etc. |
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Trusting Dave to write 6-8 new tunes is a huge risk. I would say maybe 3 or 4 new tunes max. |
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I agree, I like both but if I had to choose one I'm going with Crazy Easy, especially if Jeff did anything close to how Roi used to play on it |
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I'm hoping that this time off leads to a more sax centric sound. |
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Agreed about Crazy Easy. Shotgun is a more powerful song, it’s very good. But I’ll take Crazy Easy 9/10 times. It’s got a classic DMB sound to me, and I love the jazzy verse/jam section. One of Roi’s best.
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Not sure if you listen to much of Jeff's music outside of DMB but he is such an awesome jazz player, even listening to him talk about music he's obsessed with jazz and has all these fascinating stories. It's crazy to me that they haven't channeled that into studio work with DMB. He isn't going to be Roi on Crazy Easy, Roi had his own unique voice, but Jeff is more than capable of making Crazy Easy shine and adding a jazz feel throughout a DMB album. ViTR, DoTHS and a few others have a Radiohead type feel. I'd love DMB's direction to be split between the Radiohead type stuff, aggressive stuff that's all over the place like Kill the King which is very old school DMB in terms of structure, and jazz type playing. |
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I'm going with Crazy Easy too, mostly because at this point, it would be so freakin difficult to nail the potential Shotgun has. I think seeing what happened to Idea of You showed me that if they don't really take the time with it, it could be a waste. Crazy Easy would be simpler to make a great studio version. And god I love Jeff soloing over the last chorus in both Bismarck and CE.
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I take everything with a grain of salt these days. It was looking like they were working on a new album in 2014, which they were, but it took 4 years to get it.
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yes, in April 2004 there is confirmation the band recorded at Haunted Hollow. sugar will was recorded, as was half of stand up. they also re-recorded OSW, Recently and TSTJL |
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Current Sugar Will doesn't make it move for me
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Yeah there’s even a short clip of it from one of the early big whiskey sessions https://youtu.be/sQWXMWC4e08 |
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You should see a doctor and play a recent version from YouTube, see if they have any thoughts |
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I don’t think that’s Sugar Will. I can see the similarities but I disagree Whatever it is sounds awesome, and wow Dave looks young. It feels like yesterday that that video came out |
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Instead of little snippets of tunes w/ Roi or songs that include him where he isn't really featured, they should release the recorded versions of as many of the songs that he was on as possible. The fans would eat it up, his family/estate could get more royalties, these songs could get added to sets, etc.
I get sitting on stuff that you've moved away from as an artist (at least in theory), but these songs are a part of Roi's legacy and one of the only chances for it to grow. I also think about someone like Zappa who'd take a solo from one his player's feature from live shows and literally write a song around it. From what we've been told over the years, Roi would lay down lots of versions of stuff that could be applied to other pieces if the band were interested. Of course, it could be emotionally difficult and that's likely part of why they haven't done much with the archival stuff featuring Roi. I would love to hear as much stuff as they have in the can from Roi as possible. Perfection shouldn't be goal, especially from a band that's all about the live performances. Releasing demo versions, alternate takes, unreleased stuff, etc. has been a regular practice for decades, especially for artists that have passed. Atlantic has released almost every note that Coltrane played in the studio when he was on their roster... |
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Yeah, I love that clip of Dave playing along to Sugar Will in the studio with Cavallo. I don’t think Roi was on that track, but it is possible.
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No he’s talking about the first 2 seconds or so of the video |
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Sugar Will took another step once Tim joined full time. Wasn't a huge fan of the 2004 versions but then it started to grow on me overtime. I think it's one of the best songs they have over the last 15 years.
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Im into seeing some of Break Free, Break For It, Sugar Will, Shotgun, etc. I would certainly not complain; however, i do like these songs living as live tunes that change year in and year out
I want Bismark - I still feel like this represents current DMB in a strong enough way to make the album. I also want the guys to play it again regularly I'd prefer almost entirely new songs. |
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This is actually a topic I'm really interested in and not nearly as educated on as I'd like to be |
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SBC Soundcheck 2005: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBh45cR6gls
The fact that the band created that, never played it live for an audience and then just slam dunked it right into the recycle bin is just fucking astounding to me. Considering he debuted Cornbread and Can't Stop the next year. It is hands down the most frustrating thing about Dave... his taste in his own music is atrocious. I think Batson and Rashawn are to blame for this as well tbh. |
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It's the Dreaming Tree jam with Dave throwing in some chord changes to make it deviate. Boyd is even playing his DT part alongside some minor soloing. It sounds great, but it wasn't some groundbreaking new song. |
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It’s in 7/4, but it’s not the DT jam. Key is Em instead of Dm, Stefan and Carter are playing different things. Kind of makes me think of Raven if it were in 7/4 haha combined with some hints of #27 because of the chords Dave’s playing. Anyway, I think Bartender and DDTW sound way more similar than this and DT do. Could’ve definitely made this into a record. Bartender and DDTW literally share the same verse and chorus chord progressions (albeit Bartender has a bit of a riff and one other chord in the verse). |
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I already said Dave was playing it in a different key. And that’s exactly what it sounds like to me. Dreaming Tree outro in a different key. Because the rest of it is DT. Boyd even plays his part. |
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You guys are all sitting here talking about a new album (which I'm 100% all about) but I'm just sitting here wondering if there is any chance Carter joins Dave for the request show on 10/2 and does some killer bongos.
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Carter farted on the 1... thats how i know this is dreaming tree in Em... you guys are all children... grow up. Its clearly a variation of something they had been working on. |
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I sure hope so🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼💜💜💜
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There was some word in late 2016 that a Some Devil followup (meaning another solo album) was about to be in the works - I know there was an interview with Brady from that group indicating talk of working with Dave again. I wonder if we’ll get that group again on either end of this (before or after).
I can bet no matter what that we’ll get a new DMB album/tour & on either end of it a new album/tour with the Some Devil people. Nobody’s getting any younger. |
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I remember telling my wife about how Jerry had JGB as well as being in the Dead and his other projects. We had hoped that Dave might do the same, not wanting the band to end but wanting Dave to do whatever he needed to feel inspired AND keep DMB going.
I really wished he'd done this, as there's just a stupid amount of material that he's shelved and a lot of it excellent... |
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Remember The Nauts? :lol
It feels like there have been so many opportunities and rumors for new and different Dave music, but few of them have come to fruition. Excited to hear he and Carter are jamming though, whatever comes from it. |
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More sax?!? No thank you. I’d prefer more..... cow bell. More sax... smfh.
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If that was the case come tomorrow and away from the world would have made larger waves in the fanbase and in the live shows. The majority of modern Dave Matthews written songs don't have the lasting appear that were written all the way through busted stuff. She, Come Tomorrow, That Girl is you, Do You remember, are examples of the subpar songwriting that occurs when Dave tried to bust out a bunch of new material. These are bathroom break songs at a live show. |
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