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DMBCubs25 03-30-2012 11:38 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I love Bolland in the 3C role, don't really care what his regular season production is as his greatest value comes playoff time. I'm still in the camp that I'd like to see Sharp back at 2C but for whatever reason Q hates this, despite winning a Cup with him there.

lockman21 03-30-2012 11:42 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by DMBCubs25 (Post 13475662)
I love Bolland in the 3C role, don't really care what his regular season production is as his greatest value comes playoff time. I'm still in the camp that I'd like to see Sharp back at 2C but for whatever reason Q hates this, despite winning a Cup with him there.

Agree about Bolland, disagree strongly about Sharp.

Bron Yr Aur 03-30-2012 11:44 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13475651)
.....are you...*twitches*....are YOU...*twitches*....are you talking bad about Dave Bolland....

No, not really.

I just think that saddling him with fringy NHLers and sending them all out against opposing teams' top lines may not be the best way to utilize his skillset. Maybe it worked well in 08-09 and 09-10 when he had guys like Ladd, Versteeg, Havlat on his line. Making a mediocre faceoff guy take 70% of his faceoffs in the defensive zone is...odd.

Put Bolland with Sharp and Hossa and not only will the Sedins never get into the offensive zone, they'll be playing defense all night.

lockman21 03-30-2012 11:58 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Potential GM candidates for the Habs...something is not right here....

http://i.imgur.com/wpUQ6.jpg

DMBCubs25 03-30-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13475677)
Agree about Bolland, disagree strongly about Sharp.

Why so strongly against Sharp?

lockman21 03-30-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 13475685)
No, not really.

I just think that saddling him with fringy NHLers and sending them all out against opposing teams' top lines may not be the best way to utilize his skillset. Maybe it worked well in 08-09 and 09-10 when he had guys like Ladd, Versteeg, Havlat on his line. Making a mediocre faceoff guy take 70% of his faceoffs in the defensive zone is...odd.

Put Bolland with Sharp and Hossa and not only will the Sedins never get into the offensive zone, they'll be playing defense all night.

Disagree. Bolland is being utilized just how he should be. Put him with Bickell and Shaw...GREAT. Let 81-88-15 stay as the second line. 10-19-25 can be the top line.

lockman21 03-30-2012 12:10 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by DMBCubs25 (Post 13475743)
Why so strongly against Sharp?

Because then the lines get all messed up. We've been clicking in so many places, why screw with it again?

10-19-25
81-88-15
29-36-65
16-22-52

Perfect. If you throw 10 as the 2C, where does everyone else go? 81-88 have been magical, and Bruno has finally found a place where he "fits" on this team. Sharp and Stalberg were pretty great together. It just throws a wrench in a system that has been working. Why try and fix what isn't broken right now? Kane's been doing a great job centering that line. No need to yank him out of it now.

TMoore4075 03-30-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13475719)
Potential GM candidates for the Habs...something is not right here....

http://i.imgur.com/wpUQ6.jpg

I don't get it. Unless you mean that taking someone from the Leafs organization is just stupid.

lockman21 03-30-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13475774)
I don't get it. Unless you mean that taking someone from the Leafs organization is just stupid.

http://theccfr.files.wordpress.com/2...e-mcguire1.jpg

DMBCubs25 03-30-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13475757)
Because then the lines get all messed up. We've been clicking in so many places, why screw with it again?

10-19-25
81-88-15
29-36-65
16-22-52

Perfect. If you throw 10 as the 2C, where does everyone else go? 81-88 have been magical, and Bruno has finally found a place where he "fits" on this team. Sharp and Stalberg were pretty great together. It just throws a wrench in a system that has been working. Why try and fix what isn't broken right now? Kane's been doing a great job centering that line. No need to yank him out of it now.

Understandable. It actually is quite funny how well some of the lines have been clicking since Q decided to stop fucking with them on a game by game basis as that is his MO. Gotta wonder if someone up top (Scotty?) told him to quit juggling the lines so much.

DMBCubs25 03-30-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13475774)
I don't get it. Unless you mean that taking someone from the Leafs organization is just stupid.

I really hope Pierre gets the job, for several reasons :lol.

fonzz41 03-30-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13475796)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! My eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TMoore4075 03-30-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DMBCubs25 (Post 13475806)
I really hope Pierre gets the job, for several reasons :lol.

I'm with you.

Bron Yr Aur 03-30-2012 12:50 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13475747)
Disagree. Bolland is being utilized just how he should be. Put him with Bickell and Shaw...GREAT. Let 81-88-15 stay as the second line. 10-19-25 can be the top line.

No issue with that really. Just saying I would try it. Would rather Kruger play with Kane & Hossa though.

Absolutely would agree with 10-19-25 top line. If Sharp & Stalberg keep thsi up and you add Toews....domination.

Also think it's funny how you were totally on the Viktor Stalberg bandwagon early last season. Then you were off it after he sucked toward end of the year (as we all hated him then). Looks like you were right....he certainly has legit talent and has improved all year. Probably Stan Bowman's best move of the offseason, getting him for 2 years at $850k each. Hope he tries to extend him again at beginning of next season. If Ville Leino gets $4.5m a year for 19 goals, how much would have Stalberg gotten in UFA for 19 even-strength goals plus his elite speed?

lockman21 03-30-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 13475892)
No issue with that really. Just saying I would try it. Would rather Kruger play with Kane & Hossa though.

Absolutely would agree with 10-19-25 top line. If Sharp & Stalberg keep thsi up and you add Toews....domination.

Also think it's funny how you were totally on the Viktor Stalberg bandwagon early last season. Then you were off it after he sucked toward end of the year (as we all hated him then). Looks like you were right....he certainly has legit talent and has improved all year. Probably Stan Bowman's best move of the offseason, getting him for 2 years at $850k each. Hope he tries to extend him again at beginning of next season. If Ville Leino gets $4.5m a year for 19 goals, how much would have Stalberg gotten in UFA for 19 even-strength goals plus his elite speed?

The problem with Stalberg is pretty simple. He "should" be really, really good. He's slowly just been figuring it out. Whenever I hated Stalberg, it was out of pure frustration. Why is a guy like him so unable to find the back of the net? He's really started to slowly figure it out though, and it sure is fun to watch.

More frustrating at this point - why doesn't 25 get any PP time?

Bron Yr Aur 03-30-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13475901)
The problem with Stalberg is pretty simple. He "should" be really, really good. He's slowly just been figuring it out. Whenever I hated Stalberg, it was out of pure frustration. Why is a guy like him so unable to find the back of the net? He's really started to slowly figure it out though, and it sure is fun to watch.

More frustrating at this point - why doesn't 25 get any PP time?

Who knows. Q would rather go with immobile guys (Brunette) and non-scorers (Kruger)....Hawks have such a horrible time just gaining the zone and setting up shop...certainly Stalberg could help dumping and retrieving pucks. He does that night in and night out.

Stalberg doesn't have the best hands probably....he certainly has botched a couple opportunities on the doorstep. BUT, he does get a ton of chances, and I think his shooting% of 9.7% could certainly improve as he learns pick his spots a bit more. Then again, he is a shoot first guy usually and that is not a bad thing.

For me, 19 goals all at even strength while playing 13 and a half minutes a game is pretty damn impressive. He has more even-strength goals this year than Kane, Hossa, Logan Couture, Brad Richards, Alexander Semin, Lupul, Lucic......that's impressive. Same number of even-strength points as ALEX OVECHKIN (who oh-by-the-way plays 2 and a half more minutes a game at even strength).

lockman21 03-30-2012 01:13 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 13475916)
Who knows. Q would rather go with immobile guys (Brunette) and non-scorers (Kruger)....Hawks have such a horrible time just gaining the zone and setting up shop...certainly Stalberg could help dumping and retrieving pucks. He does that night in and night out.

Stalberg doesn't have the best hands probably....he certainly has botched a couple opportunities on the doorstep. BUT, he does get a ton of chances, and I think his shooting% of 9.7% could certainly improve as he learns pick his spots a bit more. Then again, he is a shoot first guy usually and that is not a bad thing.

For me, 19 goals all at even strength while playing 13 and a half minutes a game is pretty damn impressive. He has more even-strength goals this year than Kane, Hossa, Logan Couture, Brad Richards, Alexander Semin, Lupul, Lucic......that's impressive. Same number of even-strength points as ALEX OVECHKIN (who oh-by-the-way plays 2 and a half more minutes a game at even strength).

Keep in mind that Stalberg has 8 goals against the Blue Jackets, so it's a bit misleading how great those 19 goals are.

Bron Yr Aur 03-30-2012 01:19 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13475968)
Keep in mind that Stalberg has 8 goals against the Blue Jackets, so it's a bit misleading how great those 19 goals are.

Eh....so what. A goal is a goal. The Jackets are bad but it's still a goal against NHL competition.

lockman21 03-30-2012 02:23 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Hawks friends - figured I'd post this here first, see if you guys want to go -

I have 4 tickets to Sunday's game, section 110 row 12 that I can't use. If you want them, they are yours. I have a parking pass for lot K as well. I'll give a 50% off Ants discount, because I love you all so much. $200 total for the 4 tickets plus the parking pass.

Bron Yr Aur 03-30-2012 02:35 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
That's a super nice offer Chris. Wish I could go, but I have to write a thesis so I can graduate.

lockman21 03-30-2012 02:44 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 13476138)
That's a super nice offer Chris. Wish I could go, but I have to write a thesis so I can graduate.

Wish I could too. Great seats. I'm flying to Augusta, GA for the Masters though, so I can't go.

Face is $140+fees per ticket, so that's a lot more than 50% off, I guess.

fonzz41 03-30-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13476151)
Wish I could too. Great seats. I'm flying to Augusta, GA for the Masters though, so I can't go.

I can't tell you how disappointed I am in you right now.

Bron Yr Aur 03-30-2012 03:31 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Masters is a potentially once in a lifetime chance to see.....41 home games in a season. If it was a playoff game, that'd be tough.

lockman21 03-30-2012 03:37 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 13476167)
I can't tell you how disappointed I am in you right now.

:lol

It's the Masters. Toughest ticket in sports, bucket list type deal. Can't pass on that. I've been to 100's of Hawks games, but the Masters...If this weren't a regular season game against the Wild without Toews then maybe it would be a consideration. If it were a WCF/SCF game then no way am I missing that for golf.

Mike (bonzo) will be attending in my place. So there will be someone there at the UC from this thread.

bonzo48280 03-30-2012 05:05 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13476268)
:lol

It's the Masters. Toughest ticket in sports, bucket list type deal. Can't pass on that. I've been to 100's of Hawks games, but the Masters...If this weren't a regular season game against the Wild without Toews then maybe it would be a consideration. If it were a WCF/SCF game then no way am I missing that for golf.

Mike (bonzo) will be attending in my place. So there will be someone there at the UC from this thread.

Hey oh! Chris is the man.

Proudest_Raider 03-30-2012 05:05 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Really wish I could watch the Preds-Wings game tonight, but the NHL network is showing a pretty meaningless Rangers-Habs matchup.

bonzo48280 03-30-2012 07:26 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I wouldn't mind getting Burish back next season. If I win the mega millions I'm going to pay the Hawks to get Ladd back.

bonzo48280 03-30-2012 09:09 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Does anybody want to win the Pacific? Goddamn.

UCFish 03-30-2012 09:14 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Really do not want to play LA round 1......will have to go and I think I would get crazy in person

thechad90000 03-30-2012 09:26 PM

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Win #500 for coach Trotz


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