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barbogast 06-29-2016 05:13 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16493561)
They are LOADS better defensively, and I contend that Weber can do just as much offensively as Subban. Wonderful trade for Montreal getting one of the top 3 all-around defensemen in the game.

Right.

Like. What the fuck is Nashville thinking. Holy shit.

TMoore4075 06-29-2016 05:14 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
PK sounds less than thrilled about the trade from some of the quotes out there. i'm sure he'll back track once it sinks in but...still.

Alright I'm leaving. Nothing happen till I get home.

TheLastPig 06-29-2016 05:16 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Holy shit Subban for Weber? I havent been following closely, has this been rumored for awhile? I didnt know either were being shopped.

fonzz41 06-29-2016 05:16 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16493575)
Right.

Like. What the fuck is Nashville thinking. Holy shit.

Right?

Subban is flashy, and that can skew a little bit as to what makes a good defenseman. They will miss Weber's steadiness next year.

Although, having Josi helps. He will definitely be the ying to Subban's yang.

fonzz41 06-29-2016 05:17 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16493582)
Holy shit Subban for Weber? I havent been following closely, has this been rumored for awhile? I didnt know either were being shopped.

Subban has been rumored this offseason. But Weber? I don't think anyone could've predicted that.

trd1610 06-29-2016 05:18 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Stammer!!! Very happy about this, 8th year and a modest price all things considered. It'll be interesting to see if this ripples into a Bishop trade now or if they wait until the deadline.

barbogast 06-29-2016 05:20 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16493583)
Right?

Subban is flashy, and that can skew a little bit as to what makes a good defenseman. They will miss Weber's steadiness next year.

Although, having Josi helps. He will definitely be the ying to Subban's yang.

That has to be the thinking, that Subban can perhaps provide some flash that Weber couldn't, while Josi remains the steady horse back there covering for PK's pinch-oriented style.

But still, I don't like it at all. Weber is perhaps the best all around defenseman on the planet. He's certainly one of maybe 3 you could consider. Pk Subban isn't one of the other two. I just don't know how you make that deal. Good for Montreal. That's a whale of a deal for them.

TheLastPig 06-29-2016 05:23 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Stammer resigns. 8 years $68 mil.

Glad he is staying put.

fonzz41 06-29-2016 05:23 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16493594)
That has to be the thinking, that Subban can perhaps provide some flash that Weber couldn't, while Josi remains the steady horse back there covering for PK's pinch-oriented style.

But still, I don't like it at all. Weber is perhaps the best all around defenseman on the planet. He's certainly one of maybe 3 you could consider. Pk Subban isn't one of the other two. I just don't know how you make that deal. Good for Montreal. That's a whale of a deal for them.

And to be fair to NAS, that may be exactly what they're looking for in a market that is growing, but could use an injection of flash.

Mike Johnson saying NAS wins trade because Subban is 4 years younger than Weber. lol. It's not like Weber is 40 or something like that. He's 30. Tons of good years. I think he's more expensive, but he also brings more skills to the table than Subban ever did. Well worth the price.

Very few can play the physical game that Weber can, while still being very mobile in all 3 zones and excellent offensively.

fonzz41 06-29-2016 05:30 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Currently writing a note of apology to Nick Kypreos.

TMoore4075 06-29-2016 05:31 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trd1610 (Post 16493590)
Stammer!!! Very happy about this, 8th year and a modest price all things considered. It'll be interesting to see if this ripples into a Bishop trade now or if they wait until the deadline.

Bishop is there until at least the deadline. No one needs a goalie.

The Subban deal I just don't know if they improve THAT much. Traded a fan favorite there. It better work.

JRS1386 06-29-2016 05:33 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Nash should have let the Flyers signed Weber away

Roose13 06-29-2016 05:38 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 16493617)
Nash should have let the Flyers signed Weber away

Yea, matching the Flyers offer looking dumber and dumber now.

fonzz41 06-29-2016 05:43 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Pretty cool that Steve Yzerman held his ground, and now he's got both Steven Stamkos and a much-improved Drouin on his roster for next year. Kudos to him.

lockman21 06-29-2016 05:49 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
What the shit is going on

fonzz41 06-29-2016 05:51 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16493644)
What the shit is going on

Nothing. Why?

fonzz41 06-29-2016 06:02 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Toews isn't the only one thinking this right now...

Jonathan Toews ‏@JonathanToews
Hey Webs good luck in Montreal thanks for leaving our division! #relief

~Crashintome89~ 06-29-2016 06:08 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Wait, you are all getting on the case of Nashville instead of Montreal?

fonzz41 06-29-2016 06:11 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16493668)
Wait, you are all getting on the case of Nashville instead of Montreal?

It was a good trade where neither team got fleeced, but MTL definitely got the better player.

TMoore4075 06-29-2016 06:14 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 16493626)
Yea, matching the Flyers offer looking dumber and dumber now.

They got Weber for 4 years and now get Subban. Had they not matched that franchise would have died. Suter and Weber both leave in the same summer...

barbogast 06-29-2016 06:24 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16493668)
Wait, you are all getting on the case of Nashville instead of Montreal?

Lol

Of course we are. They traded Weber for pk Subban. That is dumb.

swordo84 06-29-2016 06:40 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Why couldn't Edm have traded Hall for one of the good d men today?

swordo84 06-29-2016 06:51 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
This is the only place I've seen that thinks Montreal won that trade.

barbogast 06-29-2016 07:03 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 16493740)
This is the only place I've seen that thinks Montreal won that trade.

I guess you know where to come for smart hockey talk then

lockman21 06-29-2016 07:18 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
I would take Shea Weber over PK every single freakin' day of the week.

barbogast 06-29-2016 07:19 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16493773)
I would take Shea Weber over PK every single freakin' day of the week.

Right. How anyone wouldn't is beyond me. Like, it's not even remotely close.

bradshaw06 06-29-2016 07:21 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Well that all escalated quickly

lockman21 06-29-2016 07:23 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
I walked into a 45 minute meeting, then checked what happened in the NHL. Hall traded. Subban traded. Stamkos staying in TB.

This is what I felt like checking NHL offseason news after my meeting - http://i.imgur.com/cMWalaa.gif

TMoore4075 06-29-2016 07:59 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
This sounds weird but I want the Wings to do nothing big on Friday. Maybe try and re-sign Helm and make a move for a top defenseman and other than that let the kids play. None of the players out there are worth what they are gonna get. None.

bradshaw06 06-29-2016 08:03 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2...source=twitter

The cap recapture for weber is insane if he retires early


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